2010 NBA Dunk Contest the Worst Ever

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Also, did ya’ll hear Paul Pierce call himself one of the best shooters in NBA history? I read an article in SLAM right after his recovery from being stabbed and he said he wanted to go down as the best player of all-time. He clearly suffers from delusions of grandeur, or at the very least an inflated self worth.[/quote]

That’s the type of ego you need to be successful as he has been. He carried boston on his back for years before kg and JS got there. I wasn’t the biggest fan of his when he was at Kansas, because I hated Kansas at the time. He has a villian factor that will always hold people back from recognizing him, but what he’s done at Boston puts him up there in the top players ever for the celtics.[/quote]

Smith, Barkley and Miller were actually talking about that during the shootout. Smith said he thought Pierce was a top 5 all-time Celtic and Barkley told him he was crazy. Barkley started naming some Celts, and sure enough he named 6 or 7 off the bat who were definitely better, relatively speaking.

I understand ego, and that all of the “greats” have it. But, there’s a difference between having an ego and being delusional. I also don’t understand the “villain factor” thing you brought up. Maybe where you’re from Pierce has that, but nationally he seems pretty well liked. The dude has game to be sure, but I’m not sure I’d put him in the top 10 players of the past decade category. When Pierce was “carrying” that team, he had Walker, Battie, Tony Delk, Kenny Anderson, etc… 2 of those guys played in All-Star games. Quite a few players have done much more with a lot less.[/quote]

yes i agree. last time i checked, the Celts sucked REALLY bad the few years before KG and Ray arrived, so yes, Pierce was carrying his team, but he sure as hell wasn’t carrying them all to far. And for 'one of the greatest shooters of all-time" statement, dude isn’t even the best shooter on his team. The Celtics have one of, if not the most, impressive “all-time” team, and to me, Paul doesn’t barely makes it on the bench. I know he has a small place in Celtic lore, but I think Russell, Mchale, Bird, Cousy, Parish, Cowens, Havelichek (sorry i butchered his name) all take places above Pierce, and those are just off the top of my head.

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Guys, I’ll tell you what I think. I think these guys are now overpaid and there is no economic incentive for them to compete at this. And somewhat, they are disrespecting the game.

Remember when the likes of Erving, Wilkins, et als would go at it in a dunk contest for bragging rights? Those guys wanted to win, show their stuff, get their name out there. These guys? Guys on the bench are making more than what Erving and those guys made. They have no incentive. The Kobes, Lebrons - all of them should be WANTING to compete and win. The contest no longer has any prestige, because these guys don’t compete…and its been this way for a while. At this point, it would be a better contest with hungry d-leaguers that want to make a name for themselves. [/quote]

Practically hit the nail on the head with this one, except I don’t even think people would want to watch D-Leaguers.

LeBron, Kobe, Dwayne Wade all belong at some point in the dunk contest if it’s going to be fun. They bring fans hype and anticipation. There are people out there who can really jump but no one gets hyped up to see them. The problem with this is energy. Good hops is one thing, but extra adrenaline can make you do some sick shit, when there is no energy in the building because some 2 ndstring player is about to dunk, he is just not going to perform as well. It’s like comparing a championship game to a regular season game.

The other thing they need to do is get rid of old dunk elite judges. Old people are always going to think they were better or well I did that before, who wants to risk being judged by that? That’s not what the dunk contest is about, it’s about the wow factor. If the whole crowd goes crazy who gives a shit if someone did it in 85? The dunk contest started going down hill when a whole stadium would hold up 10’s and the judges would hand out 7’s and 8’s, that’s when kobes and the likes were like I’m not doing this shit.[/quote]

Though i have nothing to back this up with, I feel D-Wade is much more then just a ‘game dunker’, and could really bring some fire to the Dunk Contest. I think he’s creative, and he at a perfect height where he’s short enough that it will still give the illusion of him having a CRAZY vertical, but tall enough that he can pull off some sick dunks that maybe a 6 foot or under plaer couldnt. Another good dunker Flash didn’t mention, that ya’ll will probably not agree with, is Rajon Rondo. When he played down here in high school and then In Kentucky, he do the CRAZIEST shit at warm-ups. I mean he has the biggest hands I’ve ever seen. Kentucky use to have a 7-2 guy named Shagari Alleyen, and Rajon, at a height of about 6-0, had hands about as big as his. His ability to palm a ball so easily (which is the skill lacking in ‘shorter’ dunkers) allows him to really be able to get up there and be creative

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[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Guys, I’ll tell you what I think. I think these guys are now overpaid and there is no economic incentive for them to compete at this. And somewhat, they are disrespecting the game.

Remember when the likes of Erving, Wilkins, et als would go at it in a dunk contest for bragging rights? Those guys wanted to win, show their stuff, get their name out there. These guys? Guys on the bench are making more than what Erving and those guys made. They have no incentive. The Kobes, Lebrons - all of them should be WANTING to compete and win. The contest no longer has any prestige, because these guys don’t compete…and its been this way for a while. At this point, it would be a better contest with hungry d-leaguers that want to make a name for themselves. [/quote]

Practically hit the nail on the head with this one, except I don’t even think people would want to watch D-Leaguers.

LeBron, Kobe, Dwayne Wade all belong at some point in the dunk contest if it’s going to be fun. They bring fans hype and anticipation. There are people out there who can really jump but no one gets hyped up to see them. The problem with this is energy. Good hops is one thing, but extra adrenaline can make you do some sick shit, when there is no energy in the building because some 2 ndstring player is about to dunk, he is just not going to perform as well. It’s like comparing a championship game to a regular season game.

The other thing they need to do is get rid of old dunk elite judges. Old people are always going to think they were better or well I did that before, who wants to risk being judged by that? That’s not what the dunk contest is about, it’s about the wow factor. If the whole crowd goes crazy who gives a shit if someone did it in 85? The dunk contest started going down hill when a whole stadium would hold up 10’s and the judges would hand out 7’s and 8’s, that’s when kobes and the likes were like I’m not doing this shit.[/quote]

Though i have nothing to back this up with, I feel D-Wade is much more then just a ‘game dunker’, and could really bring some fire to the Dunk Contest. I think he’s creative, and he at a perfect height where he’s short enough that it will still give the illusion of him having a CRAZY vertical, but tall enough that he can pull off some sick dunks that maybe a 6 foot or under plaer couldnt. Another good dunker Flash didn’t mention, that ya’ll will probably not agree with, is Rajon Rondo. When he played down here in high school and then In Kentucky, he do the CRAZIEST shit at warm-ups. I mean he has the biggest hands I’ve ever seen. Kentucky use to have a 7-2 guy named Shagari Alleyen, and Rajon, at a height of about 6-0, had hands about as big as his. His ability to palm a ball so easily (which is the skill lacking in ‘shorter’ dunkers) allows him to really be able to get up there and be creative[/quote]

He also has a damn near 7 ft wingspan. He’s not really a great leaper, but long arms and big hands help. That was what was so disappointing about Brown. Long arms, huge hands, creativity and serious bounce make for a perfect contest dunker. Too bad he only had 3 out of 4.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:
I was gonna mention J Rich he was so close to winning the third but blew the bounce to himself under the legs 360 and was super close to the 360 elbow in the rim.

Flash you can’t base how LBJ would do off of the McDonalds contest he’d come up with some good stuff. [/quote]

The thing with that James dunk is the most exciting part was the behind the back pass to himself while he was still on the ground. The dunk itself was just a simple one handed dunk. I’m telling you, his bag of tricks is pretty shallow.

I wish Carter would’ve come in and challenged Richardson at least once. That woulda blown Nique vs Jordan outta the water. [/quote]

Ya I might be about as big a Lebron fan as there is on these forums, but even I’ll admit that the dude almost always does the same “dunk” he just takes different approaches to do it. 90% of his dunks are bringing the ball way back or way off to the side, arm fully extended, and throw it down with some power. That brings asses off the seats in a stadium, and for a first dunk in the dunk contest it’d be awesome because it gets the crowd excited to see someone really throw it down with emphasis. The problem is what would he do on his second dunk… the same thing just by bouncing it to himself or throwing the ball off the backboard or something. The only other dunk I’ve ever really seen him do is a simple 180 behind the back flush. Maybe get Lebron a dunk coach and he could put on a freakshow of a contest, but by himself he just loves being the freight train that he is… all power.

Also, while I think VC has the most complete contest ever, J-Rich’s between the legs to his off hand reverse is the single most disgusting dunk I’ve ever seen in an NBA contest(had to specify since I know the dudes that do nothing but dunk have done some CRAZY shit.)

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Do you guys think having short legs compared to your body gives you a jumping disadvantage?

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this year the players lacked creativity. its not like the players have to perform anything difficult, as long as its creative and something new; also, the players kept mentioning that they shouldnt use props, what the hell was that all about.

anyone remember when (enter name) blew out the candle as he dunked…simple dunk, but creative.

i would love to see someone dunk from the freethrow line again one day, instead of these idiots putting tape down then jumping from 2 feet past the free throw line.

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[quote]All2ez wrote:
this year the players lacked creativity. its not like the players have to perform anything difficult, as long as its creative and something new; also, the players kept mentioning that they shouldnt use props, what the hell was that all about.

anyone remember when (enter name) blew out the candle as he dunked…simple dunk, but creative.

i would love to see someone dunk from the freethrow line again one day, instead of these idiots putting tape down then jumping from 2 feet past the free throw line.[/quote]
Gerald Green. His windmills looked good.
I hate seeing ugly looking windmills.

I thought Shannon Brown was going to dunk from the free throw line, but he didn’t…fuck it.

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[quote]All2ez wrote:
this year the players lacked creativity. its not like the players have to perform anything difficult, as long as its creative and something new; also, the players kept mentioning that they shouldnt use props, what the hell was that all about.

anyone remember when (enter name) blew out the candle as he dunked…simple dunk, but creative.

i would love to see someone dunk from the freethrow line again one day, instead of these idiots putting tape down then jumping from 2 feet past the free throw line.[/quote]

Ladies and gentlemen, I present you James White-

Played on the Rockets for a bit, and did pretty well in the limited time he was given. Led the D-league in scoring if I’m not mistaken. Not sure why he’s not sticking, but someone needs to sign him before his legs start to fade. The best one leg leaper you will ever see.

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[quote]PB Andy wrote:
who watches basketball anymore? I stopped after Jordan retired.[/quote]

wow, same here.