yea newton when he was at UF wasn’t that great (conduct wise, stole a laptop) i heard going to Junco really switched things around so im glad he’s doing well in auburn.
he’s def a legit heisman candidate, but do u guys think he’ll get drafted high? some people making vick comparisons
^ if he wins the heisman or a National championship than yes he will go very high.
[quote]DJHT wrote:
^ If you were really in that spot, Newton or Ingram would you take that gamble? Honestly if you went out early got drafted and then a lock out, you DONT get your contract until it is over. Could you go without getting a paycheck? They are doing it now (maybe) so they are somewhat protected. I know the flip side about getting hurt next year etc. But that is a hell of a gamble. [/quote]
Personally, I don’t think or want either one to go out early, but I wouldn’t be surprised if either do. Newton I think will stay to improved himself and hope to make his draft get higher. One of my reason he may go out early is because guys like Locker, who had high draft stock in the beginning of the year have fallen, therefor Newton may get a higher pick.
I think Newton and Ingram will both stay for their senior year.
newton in a bills uniform?!?!
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]BradyZ wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
1 Auburn 8-0
2 Oregon 7-0
3 Boise State 6-0
4 TCU 8-0
5 Michigan State 8-0
6 Missouri 7-0
7 Alabama 7-1
8 Utah 7-0
9 Oklahoma 6-1
10 Wisconsin 7-1
Okay this looks more accurate in my opinion. [/quote]
I am not sure if Oklahoma deserved to be in the top ten though, maybe 11 or 12.
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Yea but the top 5 was what I was really looking at. I dont see how this year if we end up with an undefeated Boise or TCU that a one loss team makes the championship game. [/quote]
Because an undeafted boise would still get run over by a one loss top ten team…
I seriously dont know how they get rated playing some of the teams they do…
edit: Id take my UAB Blazers over Boise…
[quote]Ratchet wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]BradyZ wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
1 Auburn 8-0
2 Oregon 7-0
3 Boise State 6-0
4 TCU 8-0
5 Michigan State 8-0
6 Missouri 7-0
7 Alabama 7-1
8 Utah 7-0
9 Oklahoma 6-1
10 Wisconsin 7-1
Okay this looks more accurate in my opinion. [/quote]
I am not sure if Oklahoma deserved to be in the top ten though, maybe 11 or 12.
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Yea but the top 5 was what I was really looking at. I dont see how this year if we end up with an undefeated Boise or TCU that a one loss team makes the championship game. [/quote]
Because an undeafted boise would still get run over by a one loss top ten team…
I seriously dont know how they get rated playing some of the teams they do…
edit: Id take my UAB Blazers over Boise…[/quote]
Cause they are the media darlings, not talking on actual Football merit. I have been quoted on here in the past that a subpar SEC team could beat a nonBCS winner like Boise or TCU.
However the media plays a part in this, look at history. Texas beat Oklahoma and Oklahoma goes to the championship how does that make sense in football merit?
[quote]DJHT wrote:
However the media plays a part in this, look at history. Texas beat Oklahoma and Oklahoma goes to the championship how does that make sense in football merit?[/quote]
Yeah, but Texas lost to Tech, which got dominated by Oklahoma. If Texas got the nod, Tech fans would say the same thing as you just did except swap “Tech” for “Texas” and “Texas” for “Oklahoma.” See the problem?
I hope that Boise loses just so we don’t have to listen to anymore shit about them being victimized by voter bias. Those fuckers’ best victories are a close, referee-assisted win over a badly overrated Va Tech team and a win against an Oregon State team that will probably finish in the bottom half of the Pac-10. Not exactly show-stopping stuff. Call me when they roll into an SEC stadium and knock off Auburn, Alabama, etc.
[quote]eic wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
However the media plays a part in this, look at history. Texas beat Oklahoma and Oklahoma goes to the championship how does that make sense in football merit?[/quote]
Yeah, but Texas lost to Tech, which got dominated by Oklahoma. If Texas got the nod, Tech fans would say the same thing as you just did except swap “Tech” for “Texas” and “Texas” for “Oklahoma.” See the problem?
I hope that Boise loses just so we don’t have to listen to anymore shit about them being victimized by voter bias. Those fuckers’ best victories are a close, referee-assisted win over a badly overrated Va Tech team and a win against an Oregon State team that will probably finish in the bottom half of the Pac-10. Not exactly show-stopping stuff. Call me when they roll into an SEC stadium and knock off Auburn, Alabama, etc.
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I agree about the issues with the Texas/Tech/Oklahoma so why did any of the three go? Should have been someone else, wasnt Utah undefeated that year? Was that the year they spanked Alabama? Honestly cant remember this morning. Like I said this is in the control of the media, Boise wins out and Oregon wins out that is who will be in cause the media will want that. I have been screaming for some type of playoff for years, cause I am tired of style points bullshit myself.
i agree with everyone i just don’t see boise state doing much of anything…
i remember when people were saying Cincinnati would challenge UF during their bowl game only to get rolled over… i have a feeling it’d be very similar if boise were to play any top program in any conference (OSU, Bama, Auburn, FSU, Oregon, etc)
[quote]Vinnie85 wrote:
i agree with everyone i just don’t see boise state doing much of anything…
i remember when people were saying Cincinnati would challenge UF during their bowl game only to get rolled over… i have a feeling it’d be very similar if boise were to play any top program in any conference (OSU, Bama, Auburn, FSU, Oregon, etc) [/quote]
I think we all agree with that, but what we think dont mean shit. sorry didnt sleep well today. Honestly besides what we all feel and know about football, the media (ESPN) wants ratings. They only put like 50 fucking polls a day on the website. The fans and the media should not have an influence on who plays in what polls, it should be up to the kids who bust their asses on the field.
i’d be happy to see boise state in the BCS nat’l championship so we can put an end to all the bull shit that they spew about not getting respected… then they can live with the fact that they just can’t hang with major conferences and shut up and be happy with where they are at…
do i doubt the talent of their players? no… but in the end i wanna see a team that can compete not one that plays pansy teams throughout the year and expects to be handed the BCS bid.
^ I was having the same thought, what the hell, give them their shot this year. They have talent but as I have said before these teams lack depth. Injuries and just plain getting tired the stars have no backups. That is what ends up getting them by the end of the game.
[quote]DJHT wrote:
I agree about the issues with the Texas/Tech/Oklahoma so why did any of the three go? Should have been someone else, wasnt Utah undefeated that year? [/quote]
Not to rehash this whole ordeal, but OU got the nod over Texas that season because of their strength of schedule (non-conference) and also for the way the dominated teams the latter half of the season. It was as simple as that.
If I had it my way, OU and Texas would have played in the Big 12 Title game to settle the mess.
[quote]Dustin wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
I agree about the issues with the Texas/Tech/Oklahoma so why did any of the three go? Should have been someone else, wasnt Utah undefeated that year? [/quote]
Not to rehash this whole ordeal, but OU got the nod over Texas that season because of their strength of schedule (non-conference) and also for the way the dominated teams the latter half of the season. It was as simple as that.
If I had it my way, OU and Texas would have played in the Big 12 Title game to settle the mess. [/quote]
Cant argue that point, but it is just another muddy water argument. Could of, should of, would of. Texas and Oklahoma play mostley same teams if the roles were reversed I would be saying the same things you are Dustin, not even going to say I wouldnt. I was using this as an example cause I think they should decide by playing the game, not a PC and some media guy who never played and couldnt takle a 2 year MR child.
[quote]DJHT wrote:
Cant argue that point, but it is just another muddy water argument. Could of, should of, would of. Texas and Oklahoma play mostley same teams…[/quote]
You are a good Texas fan so I’m not taking shots at you, but this was something that a lot of your fellow Horn fans couldn’t wrap their mind around. OU’s non-conference schedule looked like this:
Chattanooga
Cincinnati
Washington
TCU
Texas’s non-conference looked like this:
Florida Atlantic
UTEP
Rice
Arkansas
Then take into consideration the 3-way tie and OU’s dominance in the latter part of the season, I don’t see how this discussion is so muddy. Not to mentioned that OU beat handily the teams in their non-conference.
As I said, I’m not looking to beat a dead horse, but I thought this situation was pretty clear cut.
Since Mack Brown has been at Texas, he tends to play a weak non conference schedule. Some years it helps his team, other years, like 2008, it kept them out of the National Title game.
^ Again agreed, but looking back now (since we can do that) did Oklahoma show up in the BCS game? Would another team really been better. I dont think Texas could have done any better that year, I think last year was the peak for them. I mean look at this year, did you really think Oklahoma deserved the #1 spot last week before the loss? Texas dropped out of the top 25 and should not in anyway be put back in. This is not their year. Again I can agree about the facts that 2008 Oklahoma made a good case to go, but looking back it was not a case of what they did on the field but the perception of what they did and could do.
[quote]DJHT wrote:
^ Again agreed, but looking back now (since we can do that) did Oklahoma show up in the BCS game? Would another team really been better. [/quote]
I thought they showed up. The defense played one of its best games of the year. The offense moved ball up and down the field in the first half. Probably should have went into halftime with a lead. But credit the Florida defense for making some plays and OU for not executing as well as they should have.
And I doubt Texas would have done any better, either. They pulled out a last minute win over Ohio State. I think Florida would have won that night, no matter who they played.
Boise State played last night and Boise State won.
Whooopeee Fucking Dooo.
I really hope they don’t get in the BCS championship.
^ HaHaHa this is why I love football and college just makes it all the more fun. To me this is true passion when us grown ass men get emotional upset about it. My wife just cant figure it out, and have gave up trying to explain it.
I’m probably in them minority, but if BSU goes undefeated, I hope they play in the National Title game. Then it will be put up or shut up.
At least if this happens, they can’t complain about not getting any respect.