Lance is exempt. Just because hes Lance.
[quote]chrismcl wrote:
Lance is exempt. Just because hes Lance.[/quote]
True, lol.
The tour has turned out great this year rasmusan today showed he is still a good rider and what the hell happened Landis, i was expecting him to win.
[quote]Amsterdam Animal wrote:
Wow, what a stage man, Landis got hit by the man with the hammer and he got hit hard!! He lost 8 minutes in the last 10 km’s on that last climb. Too bad Menchov lost some time as well but yet another great ride and victory for Dutch team Rabobank, I think the most successful team thus far in the Tour.
I am very suprised Pereiro was riding so well and it is going to be a great finish.
I am actually somewhat glad Landis got a reality check. There was a lot of talk of him being a loud mouth in the peloton and him making himself seem invincible. Not sure how much of this is truth but if it was the case I guess he has now learned it takes more than a big mouth to take the Tour.
CC wrote:
Well, so much for an American taking home the yellow :-). I think it’s good for the sport, though.
It’ll be nice to see an actual race to the end, what with the big climb tomorrow and one TT still to go. The top six are only separated by about 4 minutes. Now I don’t have anybody in particular to root for, lol, so I just want to see a good final four days.
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Trash talk is almost a requirement if you are a pro-cyclist. Many just do it in the peloton, some are a little more outspoken. Remember Gilberto Simoni a few years ago talking shit before Ventoux I think? Next thing we know, we are seeing him cracking and practically foaming at the mouth due to dehydration. That was classic.
As for Landis. I have no idea what happened. Could be a number of things, maybe he pushed into the red a bit much and wasn’t able to recover. I was pissed to him him lose the MJ. And for Leipheimer to blow it as well just pissed me off.
Awesome ride by Rasmussen though!
[quote]trailrash wrote:
As for Landis. I have no idea what happened. Could be a number of things, maybe he pushed into the red a bit much and wasn’t able to recover. I was pissed to him him lose the MJ. And for Leipheimer to blow it as well just pissed me off.[/quote]
!Newb question warning!
Now when you say “pushed into the red”, are you speaking of HR? I am only assuming because I see they will often pick out a random rider and show his current BPM, max, etc. Is there a strict amount of time you can stay close to your max before you go over the edge and “bonk”, for lack of a better term (logic would suggest that’s the case, but I want to ask just to be sure)?
[quote]CC wrote:
trailrash wrote:
As for Landis. I have no idea what happened. Could be a number of things, maybe he pushed into the red a bit much and wasn’t able to recover. I was pissed to him him lose the MJ. And for Leipheimer to blow it as well just pissed me off.
!Newb question warning!
Now when you say “pushed into the red”, are you speaking of HR? I am only assuming because I see they will often pick out a random rider and show his current BPM, max, etc. Is there a strict amount of time you can stay close to your max before you go over the edge and “bonk”, for lack of a better term (logic would suggest that’s the case, but I want to ask just to be sure)?
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Yes, they are referring to the “red zone” of getting close to max heart rate. I guess it depends how fit the rider is as to how long they can stay in the zone.
How good is this race turning out to be? The last few years it would have been all decided by now, hopefully we will get the situation where the race for the yellow jersey will come down to the Paris stage rather than being just a procession and then a sprint for the green jersey at the end.
The guy I’m supporting, Cadel Evans, had a better day yesterday but needs to make up a little more time today in the last mountain stage to give him the best chance in the time trial. On his side is the fact that he is the best time triallist of the current top 5 and it’s a long time trial, giving him a good chance of picking up minutes rather than seconds.
[quote]bg100 wrote:
CC wrote:
trailrash wrote:
As for Landis. I have no idea what happened. Could be a number of things, maybe he pushed into the red a bit much and wasn’t able to recover. I was pissed to him him lose the MJ. And for Leipheimer to blow it as well just pissed me off.
!Newb question warning!
Now when you say “pushed into the red”, are you speaking of HR? I am only assuming because I see they will often pick out a random rider and show his current BPM, max, etc. Is there a strict amount of time you can stay close to your max before you go over the edge and “bonk”, for lack of a better term (logic would suggest that’s the case, but I want to ask just to be sure)?
Yes, they are referring to the “red zone” of getting close to max heart rate. I guess it depends how fit the rider is as to how long they can stay in the zone.
How good is this race turning out to be? The last few years it would have been all decided by now, hopefully we will get the situation where the race for the yellow jersey will come down to the Paris stage rather than being just a procession and then a sprint for the green jersey at the end.
The guy I’m supporting, Cadel Evans, had a better day yesterday but needs to make up a little more time today in the last mountain stage to give him the best chance in the time trial. On his side is the fact that he is the best time triallist of the current top 5 and it’s a long time trial, giving him a good chance of picking up minutes rather than seconds.[/quote]
Im supporting evans aswell, mainly because i supported him in cross country to, nice to see some mountain bikers in the tour :).
What a stage today!! I cant believe what Landis is doing right now.
[quote]superscience wrote:
bg100 wrote:
CC wrote:
trailrash wrote:
As for Landis. I have no idea what happened. Could be a number of things, maybe he pushed into the red a bit much and wasn’t able to recover. I was pissed to him him lose the MJ. And for Leipheimer to blow it as well just pissed me off.
!Newb question warning!
Now when you say “pushed into the red”, are you speaking of HR? I am only assuming because I see they will often pick out a random rider and show his current BPM, max, etc. Is there a strict amount of time you can stay close to your max before you go over the edge and “bonk”, for lack of a better term (logic would suggest that’s the case, but I want to ask just to be sure)?
Yes, they are referring to the “red zone” of getting close to max heart rate. I guess it depends how fit the rider is as to how long they can stay in the zone.
How good is this race turning out to be? The last few years it would have been all decided by now, hopefully we will get the situation where the race for the yellow jersey will come down to the Paris stage rather than being just a procession and then a sprint for the green jersey at the end.
The guy I’m supporting, Cadel Evans, had a better day yesterday but needs to make up a little more time today in the last mountain stage to give him the best chance in the time trial. On his side is the fact that he is the best time triallist of the current top 5 and it’s a long time trial, giving him a good chance of picking up minutes rather than seconds.
Im supporting evans aswell, mainly because i supported him in cross country to, nice to see some mountain bikers in the tour :). [/quote]
[quote]SLERG wrote:
That is one hell of an event, and it seems like Lance Armstrong got out at the right time. I think you would have to be on some sort of enhancement program just to get through the damn race, it`s that tough, and now with these last two racers being tossed, it looks like an event that may be heading towards the “who gives a shit” column. [/quote]
there is a reason why LA quit last year. He would have competed this year for sure, if he would not have gotten a tip from somebody. Because he was full with more shit than everybody else, otherwise it is impossible
This is absolutely incredible. I can’t believe Landis has that much energy after the way he crashed yesterday. And the suspense continues to build…
[quote]GermanPower wrote:
SLERG wrote:
That is one hell of an event, and it seems like Lance Armstrong got out at the right time. I think you would have to be on some sort of enhancement program just to get through the damn race, it`s that tough, and now with these last two racers being tossed, it looks like an event that may be heading towards the “who gives a shit” column.
there is a reason why LA quit last year. He would have competed this year for sure, if he would not have gotten a tip from somebody. Because he was full with more shit than everybody else, otherwise it is impossible [/quote]
Thanks for the inside scoop. Now its all clear to me.
Now go away.
[quote]CC wrote:
This is absolutely incredible. I can’t believe Landis has that much energy after the way he crashed yesterday. And the suspense continues to build…[/quote]
Its amazing what can happen after cracking like he did. I actually thought yesterday that he would pull today off (wish I had posted mt prediction) but I had no idea he would have blown the field away the way he did.
This stage was truly unbelievable and one that I will never forget that is for sure.
Go Floyd!
He has to be the favorite now going into the time trial saturday, but dont forget the time gaps in the earlier time trials between sastra, pereiro and Flloyd were not that great. I think it was like a minute 20 and a minute 40 respectively over 52 km. But at least Pereiro is riding like a possessed man. I cant wait to see how it unfolds.
[quote]trailrash wrote:
CC wrote:
This is absolutely incredible. I can’t believe Landis has that much energy after the way he crashed yesterday. And the suspense continues to build…
Its amazing what can happen after cracking like he did. I actually thought yesterday that he would pull today off (wish I had posted mt prediction) but I had no idea he would have blown the field away the way he did.
This stage was truly unbelievable and one that I will never forget that is for sure.
Go Floyd!
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[quote]Amsterdam Animal wrote:
He has to be the favorite now going into the time trial saturday, but dont forget the time gaps in the earlier time trials between sastra, pereiro and Flloyd were not that great. I think it was like a minute 20 and a minute 40 respectively over 52 km. But at least Pereiro is riding like a possessed man. I cant wait to see how it unfolds.
trailrash wrote:
CC wrote:
This is absolutely incredible. I can’t believe Landis has that much energy after the way he crashed yesterday. And the suspense continues to build…
Its amazing what can happen after cracking like he did. I actually thought yesterday that he would pull today off (wish I had posted mt prediction) but I had no idea he would have blown the field away the way he did.
This stage was truly unbelievable and one that I will never forget that is for sure.
Go Floyd!
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I think he can pull it off. Its gonna be a bitch of a time trial though.
One other rider to mention is Christoph Moreau. I have been watching him for years and he is just awesome. What a great ride for him today.
[quote]CC wrote:
!Newb question warning!
Now when you say “pushed into the red”, are you speaking of HR? I am only assuming because I see they will often pick out a random rider and show his current BPM, max, etc. Is there a strict amount of time you can stay close to your max before you go over the edge and “bonk”, for lack of a better term (logic would suggest that’s the case, but I want to ask just to be sure)?
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What happened to Landis (I’m guessing) is that he pushed himself too hard at the beginning of the climb and didn’t build up to a good rhythm or cadence and simply couldn’t recover since the whole rest of the way after that was uphill - and its kinda hard to take a break and relax when you’re climbing up a bigass hill.
Bonking has more to do with not consuming enough calories and not replacing your electrolytes. Remember the Gatorade commercial of the guy that was on the last hundred yards or so of an Ironman triathalon and he just collapsed? Thats bonking, he simply didn’t have any more glucose or glycogen in his body to power his muscles (simple version of an explanation).
[quote]trailrash wrote:
This stage was truly unbelievable and one that I will never forget that is for sure.
Go Floyd!
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And yes, this tour is turning out to be interesting after all.
After yesterday, Landis coming back and winning today the way he did was the last thing I would’ve expected.
i seen another thread referring to Lance at the Espys but here is his whole monologue. This is some funny shit.
[quote]chrismcl wrote:
CC wrote:
!Newb question warning!
Now when you say “pushed into the red”, are you speaking of HR? I am only assuming because I see they will often pick out a random rider and show his current BPM, max, etc. Is there a strict amount of time you can stay close to your max before you go over the edge and “bonk”, for lack of a better term (logic would suggest that’s the case, but I want to ask just to be sure)?
What happened to Landis (I’m guessing) is that he pushed himself too hard at the beginning of the climb and didn’t build up to a good rhythm or cadence and simply couldn’t recover since the whole rest of the way after that was uphill - and its kinda hard to take a break and relax when you’re climbing up a bigass hill.
Bonking has more to do with not consuming enough calories and not replacing your electrolytes. Remember the Gatorade commercial of the guy that was on the last hundred yards or so of an Ironman triathalon and he just collapsed? Thats bonking, he simply didn’t have any more glucose or glycogen in his body to power his muscles (simple version of an explanation).[/quote]
Im not so sure he bonked. I think you said it right at first. He pushed into the red too soon and he was never able to recover because the course never let him.
[quote]trailrash wrote:
chrismcl wrote:
CC wrote:
!Newb question warning!
Now when you say “pushed into the red”, are you speaking of HR? I am only assuming because I see they will often pick out a random rider and show his current BPM, max, etc. Is there a strict amount of time you can stay close to your max before you go over the edge and “bonk”, for lack of a better term (logic would suggest that’s the case, but I want to ask just to be sure)?
What happened to Landis (I’m guessing) is that he pushed himself too hard at the beginning of the climb and didn’t build up to a good rhythm or cadence and simply couldn’t recover since the whole rest of the way after that was uphill - and its kinda hard to take a break and relax when you’re climbing up a bigass hill.
Bonking has more to do with not consuming enough calories and not replacing your electrolytes. Remember the Gatorade commercial of the guy that was on the last hundred yards or so of an Ironman triathalon and he just collapsed? Thats bonking, he simply didn’t have any more glucose or glycogen in his body to power his muscles (simple version of an explanation).
Im not so sure he bonked. I think you said it right at first. He pushed into the red too soon and he was never able to recover because the course never let him.
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The commentators were saying that it may have been heat stroke. He was drenching himself today with water to combat it.
That was one of the most amazing rides ive seen since watching the tour today ,come on landis, i hope he wins now.
Bring on the TT.
Yeah regardless of whether he is a prick in the peloton, that was really impressive and I have a great amount of respect for that fighting spirit.
I have to pick him to win now and if he does I will be happy for him.
I was pissed off again today that Boogerd had to stay with Menchov, Boogerd went but he could not follow so he had to stay with him, fucking sucked. Then when the two dropped back and Rasmussen was with Menchov, Boogerd was allowed to attack and he did. I wish he would have been able to ride for himself. I think he would have made top 5 b/c even on the days he wasnt super, he only lost a few minutes and had been doing all the work for Menchov.
[quote]superscience wrote:
trailrash wrote:
chrismcl wrote:
CC wrote:
!Newb question warning!
Now when you say “pushed into the red”, are you speaking of HR? I am only assuming because I see they will often pick out a random rider and show his current BPM, max, etc. Is there a strict amount of time you can stay close to your max before you go over the edge and “bonk”, for lack of a better term (logic would suggest that’s the case, but I want to ask just to be sure)?
What happened to Landis (I’m guessing) is that he pushed himself too hard at the beginning of the climb and didn’t build up to a good rhythm or cadence and simply couldn’t recover since the whole rest of the way after that was uphill - and its kinda hard to take a break and relax when you’re climbing up a bigass hill.
Bonking has more to do with not consuming enough calories and not replacing your electrolytes. Remember the Gatorade commercial of the guy that was on the last hundred yards or so of an Ironman triathalon and he just collapsed? Thats bonking, he simply didn’t have any more glucose or glycogen in his body to power his muscles (simple version of an explanation).
Im not so sure he bonked. I think you said it right at first. He pushed into the red too soon and he was never able to recover because the course never let him.
The commentators were saying that it may have been heat stroke. He was drenching himself today with water to combat it.
That was one of the most amazing rides ive seen since watching the tour today ,come on landis, i hope he wins now.
Bring on the TT. [/quote]