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I did not touch Palmer for that reason.

How many picks did you give up? But regardless, I say win now and worry about the rest later, you never know who gets hurt.

That WR core is ridiculous and should make up plenty what you are lacking at RB3, but I still think you are solid all around.

I dont do IDP’s, how do you like that?

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[quote]jtrinsey wrote:
We just had our draft. 10 team keeper, salary cap league. We’ve been doing it for a few years with the same guys and it’s pretty serious.

Qb- Carson Palmer
Qb- Rex Grossman
Rb- Edgerrin James
Rb- Willis McGahee
Rb- Mike Bell
Rb- T.J. Duckett
Rb- Ahman Green
Wr- Chad Johnson
Wr- Marvin Harrison
Wr- Torry Holt
Wr- Darrell Jackson
Wr- Joe Horn
Te- Tony Sheffler
K- John Carney
Lb- Shawne Merriman
Lb- David Pollack
Db- Adrian Wilson
Db- Dunta Robinson

We start 1 Qb, 3 Rbs, 3 Wrs, 1 Te, 1 K, and 3 IDPs.

I’m not sure how I feel about my team going into this year. I decided to ditch Julius Jones and Willie Parker (who I had as keepers from last year) as I was afraid of them losing touchdowns at the goaline. I managed to pull in a sick receiving core, but as you can see it left me weak at running back- although if Bell can continue the tradition of Denver no-name backs that break out, I could be in good shape.

I was psyched that Adrian Wilson fell into my lap in the fourth round this year, I don’t think he’ll repeat last year’s amazing season, but he has to be a top 5 defensive back and probably one of the top 10 defensive players overall. Dunta Robinson was an IDP sleeper for me, he plays well in run support so he gets a lot of tackles for a corner and I think his interception total will bounce back up to his rookie numbers.

Tony Sheffler was a sleeper for me, although I wish I could’ve had him as a backup. After Gates, no tight end is really that valuable, so I decided to spend my cap space on extra depth at RB and WR.

I drafted Duckett with the hope that he would wind up in New York, only to find out Barlow went there. Since it is a keeper league, he’ll be a good prospect for when Dunn is finally out of there, but just doesn’t get the yards needed to be a starter.

I had to give up Andre Johnson and a couple of draft picks in order to get Marvin Harrison, which hurts my team in the long run (as I think AJ wil be one of the best WRs in the league at some point), but I couldn’t pass up the chance to possibly have 3 of the top 5 Wrs on my team this year.

Don’t even get me started on the the status of Carson Palmer… I practically have a corony every day because of that man![/quote]

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[quote]Amsterdam Animal wrote:
So your format is receiver heavy. Depending on where you draft, I would go top RB and then come around and go top WR. You are looking to start a run on WR’s so a RB will come back to you in round 3.

This worked well for me drafting first. There was some trading but I ended up with LT, Fitz and Holt in a ten player league. When it came back around, b/c I had gone back to back WR’s, a WR started and an RB was there on the turn. You can go RB and WR for your 4th and 5th picks and have your starting 1 RB and 3 WR with a solid back up RB just in case.

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Sounds good. So, since a TE isn’t necessary do I bother drafting one? Maybe Gates?

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Good question. This will depend on what WR’s are on the board. If you are using CBS Sportsline, you should be able to sort WR/TE together when it comes to 2005 totals and more important 2006 projections (that is if your comish has set things up correctly). You will see that Gates is really comparable to a second tier WR and should therefore be drafted accordingly.

Now if your league is TD heavy and does not give up a lot of points for yards, Gates becomes more attractive but it should show that.

I will bet you that not a lot of people will pay attention when it comes to drafting there WR 3 and 4. This is where guys like Shockey, Heap, Crumpler and Cooley, your second tier TE’s will have more value in your league than the WR’s on the board.

On the flip side, I was in a draft with a similar format and guys reached for TE’s when there were still better projected WR’s on the baord. So dont reach unless you really like a certain player.

Just make sure you incorporate your TE’s in your cheat sheets so you can keep tab of things.

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[quote]dre wrote:
Amsterdam Animal wrote:
So your format is receiver heavy. Depending on where you draft, I would go top RB and then come around and go top WR. You are looking to start a run on WR’s so a RB will come back to you in round 3.

This worked well for me drafting first. There was some trading but I ended up with LT, Fitz and Holt in a ten player league. When it came back around, b/c I had gone back to back WR’s, a WR started and an RB was there on the turn. You can go RB and WR for your 4th and 5th picks and have your starting 1 RB and 3 WR with a solid back up RB just in case.

A

Sounds good. So, since a TE isn’t necessary do I bother drafting one? Maybe Gates?[/quote]

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[quote]Amsterdam Animal wrote:
Good question. This will depend on what WR’s are on the board. If you are using CBS Sportsline, you should be able to sort WR/TE together when it comes to 2005 totals and more important 2006 projections (that is if your comish has set things up correctly). You will see that Gates is really comparable to a second tier WR and should therefore be drafted accordingly.

Now if your league is TD heavy and does not give up a lot of points for yards, Gates becomes more attractive but it should show that.

I will bet you that not a lot of people will pay attention when it comes to drafting there WR 3 and 4. This is where guys like Shockey, Heap, Crumpler and Cooley, your second tier TE’s will have more value in your league than the WR’s on the board.

On the flip side, I was in a draft with a similar format and guys reached for TE’s when there were still better projected WR’s on the baord. So dont reach unless you really like a certain player.

Just make sure you incorporate your TE’s in your cheat sheets so you can keep tab of things.

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dre wrote:
Amsterdam Animal wrote:
So your format is receiver heavy. Depending on where you draft, I would go top RB and then come around and go top WR. You are looking to start a run on WR’s so a RB will come back to you in round 3.

This worked well for me drafting first. There was some trading but I ended up with LT, Fitz and Holt in a ten player league. When it came back around, b/c I had gone back to back WR’s, a WR started and an RB was there on the turn. You can go RB and WR for your 4th and 5th picks and have your starting 1 RB and 3 WR with a solid back up RB just in case.

A

Sounds good. So, since a TE isn’t necessary do I bother drafting one? Maybe Gates?

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That is some great advice and pretty much what I was thinking. Thanks.

The draft is this coming Sunday. So, i’ve got a week to come up with my draft strategy.

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Alright, I just found out what my draft position is. We have a 10 person league and I have the 8th pick. Which means i’ll have the 13th pick in the second round correct?

So, what the heck do I do with that? At the 8 pick i’m thinking Ronnie Brown, Steven Jackson, maybe Peyton Manning?

AA, you’ve done 2 or 3 drafts already, what did your 8th spot look like?

Do I get a top receiver with the 13 spot?

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Allright –

We’re drafting tomorrow – atypical league in that we draft individual defenders instead of a team D (it’s a CBS Sportsline paid league). 9 players so should be able to get decent talent at all the positions unless I fall asleep at the wheel (live draft, not computerized)

I’m annoyed because I’ve taken 2nd and 3rd the past two years, and it’s a money league with a nice top prize.

What I really need to do is figure out how to target positions - unfortunately I won’t know my draft position until tomorrow when the randomizer spits it out.

Here are the starting positions:

QB(1), RB(1), WR(2), TE(1), K(1), LB(2), DL(2), DB(2).

That’s 12 starters - we also get 16 bench players, with no caps on the positions. So people can corner markets on good players, but they can’t utilize more than 1 RB or 2 WRs at a time.

It’s a head-to-head league, not total points.

The scoring is somewhat complicated, but basically a QB scores for passing yards and passing TDs, and can lose points for fumbling or interceptions. It’s relatively yardage heavy scoring, but TDs are worth 6 so its somewhat even.

RBs get points for yards and TDs and for passes caught and receptions yards – however, the scoring formula gives bonuses for over-100 yards, so someone like Lamont Jordan or Brian Westbrook can be undervalued because he might get over 100 yards between receptions and rushes but won’t break 100 in either category. RBs also lose points for fumbles.

WRs get points for reception yards and TDs and lose points for fumbles.

LBs, DLs and DBs get a point for each tackle, bonus points for sacks, INTs and fumble recoveries.

Kickers score for short field goals and XPs, but get more for longer field goals – and penalties for missing short field goals or XPs.

The draft snakes – I actually think I’d prefer to be at the end and get two picks in a row for top guys.

I’m thinking if I get a top-3 pick I go with LJ, SA or LT, but after that it gets complicated. Would it be worth it to grab Peyton with pick 5 or below? What sort of general strategy do you think would be recommended in terms of focus on positions? I’m of the mind I should fill out my 4 main starters (RB, QB and the 2 WRs) before addressing any backups – and depending on if there’s a run, maybe TE too. Thoughts?

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[quote]dre wrote:
Alright, I just found out what my draft position is. We have a 10 person league and I have the 8th pick. Which means i’ll have the 13th pick in the second round correct?

So, what the heck do I do with that? At the 8 pick i’m thinking Ronnie Brown, Steven Jackson, maybe Peyton Manning?

AA, you’ve done 2 or 3 drafts already, what did your 8th spot look like?

Do I get a top receiver with the 13 spot? [/quote]

I’m not AA, but I’ve done 4 drafts thus far…

You get Brown/Edge/Bush/Rudi Johnson at your first pick. Your next pick you’ll still have the choice of maybe Bush, Domanick Davis, Julius Jones, very quality backs.

If you can get away with Rudi Johnson and possibly Julius Jones, you’ll be in a good position. Then you’ll come back to WR’s like Holt, Boldin, Wayne (4-5th round in my leagues), and Houshmenzadah

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damn premature submission, haha.

come back in round 5 and 6 and pick up WR3 and your QB, thats prob the route I would go.

You could go RB, RB but with your league being WR heavy, I think you need a top guy with that second round pick.

[quote]itsthetimman wrote:
dre wrote:
Alright, I just found out what my draft position is. We have a 10 person league and I have the 8th pick. Which means i’ll have the 13th pick in the second round correct?

So, what the heck do I do with that? At the 8 pick i’m thinking Ronnie Brown, Steven Jackson, maybe Peyton Manning?

AA, you’ve done 2 or 3 drafts already, what did your 8th spot look like?

Do I get a top receiver with the 13 spot?

I’m not AA, but I’ve done 4 drafts thus far…

You get Brown/Edge/Bush/Rudi Johnson at your first pick. Your next pick you’ll still have the choice of maybe Bush, Domanick Davis, Julius Jones, very quality backs.

If you can get away with Rudi Johnson and possibly Julius Jones, you’ll be in a good position. Then you’ll come back to WR’s like Holt, Boldin, Wayne (4-5th round in my leagues), and Houshmenzadah
[/quote]

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[quote]Amsterdam Animal wrote:
I did not touch Palmer for that reason.

How many picks did you give up? But regardless, I say win now and worry about the rest later, you never know who gets hurt.

That WR core is ridiculous and should make up plenty what you are lacking at RB3, but I still think you are solid all around.

I dont do IDP’s, how do you like that?

A

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Palmer was on my team last year (between him and Neil Rackers, my two sleepers almost carried me to a championship despite injuries to Ahman Green, Najeh Davenport, Julius Jones, Torry Holt and Darrell Jackson…) so I just kept him.

It is definitly a gamble but if he is healthy he’s gotta be a top 5 QB. I’d rather take a risk and be 1st or 10th than play it safe and get 3rd or 4th.

Basically I gave up Julius Jones, Willie Parker, Andre Johnson and my 1st, 4th (I actually got Adrian Wilson in the 5th, not the 4th) 6th and 7th round picks to get Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison and Willis McGahee. McGahee will really determine if that was a good trade or not.

I’m not expecting huge things out of him, but if he can be a solid RB2, then I’m happy.

For RB3, I’m praying Mike Bell works out. I gambled on him in round 2 (remember this is a keeper league, so the top backs were already kept), we’ll see if it pays off. Although, with Duckett with the Redskins now… who knows, maybe Portis is hurt worse than we thought and Duckett can be a legit RB3?

As for Ahman Green, I am not expecting much out of him, but his salary was $.25 (salaries are based on last year’s point scoring, a back like SAlex was $4…) so I figured why not just keep him…

This is actually the first year we’ve done IDP’s so time will tell. I was against the idea at first, but it has grown on me and I have to say that I like it. I think it will add some excitement to games when your defensive player is on the field.

Also, doing your homework can definitly help you big time as I think more defensive players come out of the wordwork to post huge numbers, especially pash russers. That is my hope with Pollack this year. I’m excited to have Merriman, especially since we are a keeper league- I think he’ll be an 8-10 sack guy for the bulk of his career if he stays healthy.

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Fuck, something must have happened, I will submit tomorrow or email me and I will send you my draft results from the other leagues.

[quote]Amsterdam Animal wrote:
damn premature submission, haha.

come back in round 5 and 6 and pick up WR3 and your QB, thats prob the route I would go.

You could go RB, RB but with your league being WR heavy, I think you need a top guy with that second round pick.

itsthetimman wrote:
dre wrote:
Alright, I just found out what my draft position is. We have a 10 person league and I have the 8th pick. Which means i’ll have the 13th pick in the second round correct?

So, what the heck do I do with that? At the 8 pick i’m thinking Ronnie Brown, Steven Jackson, maybe Peyton Manning?

AA, you’ve done 2 or 3 drafts already, what did your 8th spot look like?

Do I get a top receiver with the 13 spot?

I’m not AA, but I’ve done 4 drafts thus far…

You get Brown/Edge/Bush/Rudi Johnson at your first pick. Your next pick you’ll still have the choice of maybe Bush, Domanick Davis, Julius Jones, very quality backs.

If you can get away with Rudi Johnson and possibly Julius Jones, you’ll be in a good position. Then you’ll come back to WR’s like Holt, Boldin, Wayne (4-5th round in my leagues), and Houshmenzadah

[/quote]

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[quote]Amsterdam Animal wrote:
damn premature submission, haha.

come back in round 5 and 6 and pick up WR3 and your QB, thats prob the route I would go.

You could go RB, RB but with your league being WR heavy, I think you need a top guy with that second round pick.

itsthetimman wrote:
dre wrote:
Alright, I just found out what my draft position is. We have a 10 person league and I have the 8th pick. Which means i’ll have the 13th pick in the second round correct?

So, what the heck do I do with that? At the 8 pick i’m thinking Ronnie Brown, Steven Jackson, maybe Peyton Manning?

AA, you’ve done 2 or 3 drafts already, what did your 8th spot look like?

Do I get a top receiver with the 13 spot?

I’m not AA, but I’ve done 4 drafts thus far…

You get Brown/Edge/Bush/Rudi Johnson at your first pick. Your next pick you’ll still have the choice of maybe Bush, Domanick Davis, Julius Jones, very quality backs.

If you can get away with Rudi Johnson and possibly Julius Jones, you’ll be in a good position. Then you’ll come back to WR’s like Holt, Boldin, Wayne (4-5th round in my leagues), and Houshmenzadah

[/quote]

To add my .02 here… this year I think the RB crop drops off very fast, especially with those second tier guys. A lot of years you know there are guys who will give you 1,000 yards and 7 tds and you can grab them as solid security.

This year, there are so many guys in that second tier that you just have no idea about. I would much rather pick Chad Johnson than Julius Jones, in almost any format.

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Ok let me try this again.

Chad, TO and Steve Smith have all been there at 13. I rank Fitx actually up there right now and have down graded TO a bit.

I would go RB at 8, top WR at 13, come back around in the third round and go RB WR again, the order depending on whats left at what position. At 8, I like Rudi, and Edge if he is there. Rudi doesnt catch a lot but the injury to Perry ensures Rudi gets more opportunities. I would go Edge over Rudi regardless of the line in AZ. I also like Ronnie but am hesitant b/c he is not proven.

I dont think you can go WR WR in 3 and 4 even though your league is WR heavy b/c your RB2 would not be great. For RB2, I like Parker, Dunn, and Chester, all should be there.

Come back in rounds 5 and six and scope up your WR3 and your QB depending whats on the board.

I would stay away from peyton at position 8, I just dont think he is going to distance himself that much from the other QB’s. If the big three are gone, you may be able to wait to draft a QB in round 7, you just have to see what the other teams do, but that would allow you to perhaps pick up another RB.

Also, pay attention at WR 3 as previosuly discussed as a TE may have more value than the WR’s on the board.

AA

[quote]itsthetimman wrote:
dre wrote:
Alright, I just found out what my draft position is. We have a 10 person league and I have the 8th pick. Which means i’ll have the 13th pick in the second round correct?

So, what the heck do I do with that? At the 8 pick i’m thinking Ronnie Brown, Steven Jackson, maybe Peyton Manning?

AA, you’ve done 2 or 3 drafts already, what did your 8th spot look like?

Do I get a top receiver with the 13 spot?

I’m not AA, but I’ve done 4 drafts thus far…

You get Brown/Edge/Bush/Rudi Johnson at your first pick. Your next pick you’ll still have the choice of maybe Bush, Domanick Davis, Julius Jones, very quality backs.

If you can get away with Rudi Johnson and possibly Julius Jones, you’ll be in a good position. Then you’ll come back to WR’s like Holt, Boldin, Wayne (4-5th round in my leagues), and Houshmenzadah
[/quote]

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Yeah I agree, unless after he goes RB at 8 and a Peyton plus WR run starts and at 13 there is still a solid RB first tier, I would go with WR1 at 13. This is not likely to happen but I have seen stranger things

[quote]jtrinsey wrote:
Amsterdam Animal wrote:
damn premature submission, haha.

come back in round 5 and 6 and pick up WR3 and your QB, thats prob the route I would go.

You could go RB, RB but with your league being WR heavy, I think you need a top guy with that second round pick.

itsthetimman wrote:
dre wrote:
Alright, I just found out what my draft position is. We have a 10 person league and I have the 8th pick. Which means i’ll have the 13th pick in the second round correct?

So, what the heck do I do with that? At the 8 pick i’m thinking Ronnie Brown, Steven Jackson, maybe Peyton Manning?

AA, you’ve done 2 or 3 drafts already, what did your 8th spot look like?

Do I get a top receiver with the 13 spot?

I’m not AA, but I’ve done 4 drafts thus far…

You get Brown/Edge/Bush/Rudi Johnson at your first pick. Your next pick you’ll still have the choice of maybe Bush, Domanick Davis, Julius Jones, very quality backs.

If you can get away with Rudi Johnson and possibly Julius Jones, you’ll be in a good position. Then you’ll come back to WR’s like Holt, Boldin, Wayne (4-5th round in my leagues), and Houshmenzadah

To add my .02 here… this year I think the RB crop drops off very fast, especially with those second tier guys. A lot of years you know there are guys who will give you 1,000 yards and 7 tds and you can grab them as solid security.

This year, there are so many guys in that second tier that you just have no idea about. I would much rather pick Chad Johnson than Julius Jones, in almost any format.[/quote]

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[quote]Amsterdam Animal wrote:
Ok let me try this again.

Chad, TO and Steve Smith have all been there at 13. I rank Fitx actually up there right now and have down graded TO a bit.

I would go RB at 8, top WR at 13, come back around in the third round and go RB WR again, the order depending on whats left at what position. At 8, I like Rudi, and Edge if he is there. Rudi doesnt catch a lot but the injury to Perry ensures Rudi gets more opportunities. I would go Edge over Rudi regardless of the line in AZ. I also like Ronnie but am hesitant b/c he is not proven.

I dont think you can go WR WR in 3 and 4 even though your league is WR heavy b/c your RB2 would not be great. For RB2, I like Parker, Dunn, and Chester, all should be there.

Come back in rounds 5 and six and scope up your WR3 and your QB depending whats on the board.

I would stay away from peyton at position 8, I just dont think he is going to distance himself that much from the other QB’s. If the big three are gone, you may be able to wait to draft a QB in round 7, you just have to see what the other teams do, but that would allow you to perhaps pick up another RB.

Also, pay attention at WR 3 as previosuly discussed as a TE may have more value than the WR’s on the board.

AA

itsthetimman wrote:
dre wrote:
Alright, I just found out what my draft position is. We have a 10 person league and I have the 8th pick. Which means i’ll have the 13th pick in the second round correct?

So, what the heck do I do with that? At the 8 pick i’m thinking Ronnie Brown, Steven Jackson, maybe Peyton Manning?

AA, you’ve done 2 or 3 drafts already, what did your 8th spot look like?

Do I get a top receiver with the 13 spot?

I’m not AA, but I’ve done 4 drafts thus far…

You get Brown/Edge/Bush/Rudi Johnson at your first pick. Your next pick you’ll still have the choice of maybe Bush, Domanick Davis, Julius Jones, very quality backs.

If you can get away with Rudi Johnson and possibly Julius Jones, you’ll be in a good position. Then you’ll come back to WR’s like Holt, Boldin, Wayne (4-5th round in my leagues), and Houshmenzadah

[/quote]

Excellent advice man. How much do you charge for consulting fees? LOL

I think I would want to take Rudi first, Edge second and Ronnie third with the 8 pick. And then like you said take a quality receiver at 13. But I really think Ronnie could have a breakout year in Miami. I’ll have to take a look at their schedules and see who I like better.

Found out the scoring system too. Here it is.

Points from past years:

4- Passing touchdown
6- Receiving and rushing touchdowns
1- point for every 10 yards rushing or receiving
1- point for every 25 yards passing
1- point for every reception of 5 or more. i.e. a receiver has 6 receptions for 60 yards. Total fantasy points of 8.

3-points for every field goal made
4- points for over 40 yards and 5-points for over 50 yards

Defense ? not totally sure, but 6-points for a touchdown 2- points for every interception or fumble recovered 1- point for each sack

And there are certain points for points allowed. Not sure what the range is.

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[quote]jtrinsey wrote:

To add my .02 here… this year I think the RB crop drops off very fast, especially with those second tier guys. A lot of years you know there are guys who will give you 1,000 yards and 7 tds and you can grab them as solid security.

This year, there are so many guys in that second tier that you just have no idea about. I would much rather pick Chad Johnson than Julius Jones, in almost any format.[/quote]

I gotta say that I agree with you. I don’t think I would touch D. Davis or J. Jones in the first 3 rounds. I just don’t trust them. I would pick J. Jones in the 3rd round I guess if we was still there. But I doubt he will be. D. Davis I just don’t even want to deal with. The guy is an injury machine.

After the first 5 picks, I just don’t see a solid pick at RB really. Sure, there are guys that will get their yards and touches but nothing that impresses me really. I think this will be the year of the WR. There are so many good WRs out there it’s incredible.

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I should start charging huh. A couple buddies of mine were talking about starting up a FAB - Fantasy Advisory Board, haha.

Man thats a lot of bonus points for WR’s. Can you trade for an additional pick in the 3rd or 4th rounds? Offer somone like a 5 7 for a 4 or whatever and see if they will bite. You have to figure 5 picks from the first 40 would give you 2 of the top 15 RB’and 3 of the top 20 WR’s. That would put you in a dominant position but you have to hope your guys stay healthy. You will be top of the line but not a lot of depth. Let him have your fifth, get your QB in the 6th and then backfill the positions in the 8th.

I like Ronnie as well but he is a question mark when it comes to durability. I see why you would go Rudi over Edge. I just like Edge. Also the fact that I am in keeper leagues makes him more valuable to me in the long run.

[quote]dre wrote:
Amsterdam Animal wrote:
Ok let me try this again.

Chad, TO and Steve Smith have all been there at 13. I rank Fitx actually up there right now and have down graded TO a bit.

I would go RB at 8, top WR at 13, come back around in the third round and go RB WR again, the order depending on whats left at what position. At 8, I like Rudi, and Edge if he is there. Rudi doesnt catch a lot but the injury to Perry ensures Rudi gets more opportunities. I would go Edge over Rudi regardless of the line in AZ. I also like Ronnie but am hesitant b/c he is not proven.

I dont think you can go WR WR in 3 and 4 even though your league is WR heavy b/c your RB2 would not be great. For RB2, I like Parker, Dunn, and Chester, all should be there.

Come back in rounds 5 and six and scope up your WR3 and your QB depending whats on the board.

I would stay away from peyton at position 8, I just dont think he is going to distance himself that much from the other QB’s. If the big three are gone, you may be able to wait to draft a QB in round 7, you just have to see what the other teams do, but that would allow you to perhaps pick up another RB.

Also, pay attention at WR 3 as previosuly discussed as a TE may have more value than the WR’s on the board.

AA

itsthetimman wrote:
dre wrote:
Alright, I just found out what my draft position is. We have a 10 person league and I have the 8th pick. Which means i’ll have the 13th pick in the second round correct?

So, what the heck do I do with that? At the 8 pick i’m thinking Ronnie Brown, Steven Jackson, maybe Peyton Manning?

AA, you’ve done 2 or 3 drafts already, what did your 8th spot look like?

Do I get a top receiver with the 13 spot?

I’m not AA, but I’ve done 4 drafts thus far…

You get Brown/Edge/Bush/Rudi Johnson at your first pick. Your next pick you’ll still have the choice of maybe Bush, Domanick Davis, Julius Jones, very quality backs.

If you can get away with Rudi Johnson and possibly Julius Jones, you’ll be in a good position. Then you’ll come back to WR’s like Holt, Boldin, Wayne (4-5th round in my leagues), and Houshmenzadah

Excellent advice man. How much do you charge for consulting fees? LOL

I think I would want to take Rudi first, Edge second and Ronnie third with the 8 pick. And then like you said take a quality receiver at 13. But I really think Ronnie could have a breakout year in Miami. I’ll have to take a look at their schedules and see who I like better.

Found out the scoring system too. Here it is.

Points from past years:

4- Passing touchdown
6- Receiving and rushing touchdowns
1- point for every 10 yards rushing or receiving
1- point for every 25 yards passing
1- point for every reception of 5 or more. i.e. a receiver has 6 receptions for 60 yards. Total fantasy points of 8.

3-points for every field goal made
4- points for over 40 yards and 5-points for over 50 yards

Defense ? not totally sure, but 6-points for a touchdown 2- points for every interception or fumble recovered 1- point for each sack

And there are certain points for points allowed. Not sure what the range is.
[/quote]

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One other thing to keep in mind while drafting. Watch out for bye weeks. You could always chalk it up as a loss but if you start 2 RB’s and you have 3 on your squad, make sure that 2 do not have the same bye week. Same for you WR’s.

I play a guy in week 3 who has both LJ and Julius Jones who are both on a bye that week. Nice… 8 more jackasses and its playoff time, haha.

I usually look at bye weeks when it comes to my starters and immediate back ups, later in the draft I dont care so much.

A

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[quote]BostonBarrister wrote:
Allright –

We’re drafting tomorrow – atypical league in that we draft individual defenders instead of a team D (it’s a CBS Sportsline paid league). 9 players so should be able to get decent talent at all the positions unless I fall asleep at the wheel (live draft, not computerized)

I’m annoyed because I’ve taken 2nd and 3rd the past two years, and it’s a money league with a nice top prize.

What I really need to do is figure out how to target positions - unfortunately I won’t know my draft position until tomorrow when the randomizer spits it out.

Here are the starting positions:

QB(1), RB(1), WR(2), TE(1), K(1), LB(2), DL(2), DB(2).

That’s 12 starters - we also get 16 bench players, with no caps on the positions. So people can corner markets on good players, but they can’t utilize more than 1 RB or 2 WRs at a time.

It’s a head-to-head league, not total points.

The scoring is somewhat complicated, but basically a QB scores for passing yards and passing TDs, and can lose points for fumbling or interceptions. It’s relatively yardage heavy scoring, but TDs are worth 6 so its somewhat even.

RBs get points for yards and TDs and for passes caught and receptions yards – however, the scoring formula gives bonuses for over-100 yards, so someone like Lamont Jordan or Brian Westbrook can be undervalued because he might get over 100 yards between receptions and rushes but won’t break 100 in either category. RBs also lose points for fumbles.

WRs get points for reception yards and TDs and lose points for fumbles.

LBs, DLs and DBs get a point for each tackle, bonus points for sacks, INTs and fumble recoveries.

Kickers score for short field goals and XPs, but get more for longer field goals – and penalties for missing short field goals or XPs.

The draft snakes – I actually think I’d prefer to be at the end and get two picks in a row for top guys.

I’m thinking if I get a top-3 pick I go with LJ, SA or LT, but after that it gets complicated. Would it be worth it to grab Peyton with pick 5 or below? What sort of general strategy do you think would be recommended in terms of focus on positions? I’m of the mind I should fill out my 4 main starters (RB, QB and the 2 WRs) before addressing any backups – and depending on if there’s a run, maybe TE too. Thoughts?
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OK – Looks like I’ve got the third pick overall, which means I’ll get whichever of LJ, LT and SA is left. Then I’ll get the 14th and 18th picks – I’m thinking QB and WR, but I don’t have a feel for who will be there – for QB I assume the top 3 of Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer and Matt Hasselback will be gone - but I think I should have a choice among the next level with Eli, Trent Green and Tom Brady probably around (though it’s heavy with Boston people, so someone might grab Brady too high).

Eli, Trent or Tom?

For WRs, I assume I might have a shot at Chad Johnson with 14, though at 18 he’ll probably be gone – Anquan Boldin, Torry Holt and Marvin Harrison might also be there, but might not. Finally, Randy Moss is ranked low – reach up and grab him there (though there are some Raider fans in my league so he may go much higher than his 29 rank)?

Finally: QB or WR with 14?

Also – any good reccomendations for defenders? I think I’m going to base it on tackles because sacks, ints and fumble recoveries don’t seem to be predictable on a year to year basis.

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[quote]BostonBarrister wrote:

OK – Looks like I’ve got the third pick overall, which means I’ll get whichever of LJ, LT and SA is left. Then I’ll get the 14th and 18th picks – I’m thinking QB and WR, but I don’t have a feel for who will be there – for QB I assume the top 3 of Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer and Matt Hasselback will be gone - but I think I should have a choice among the next level with Eli, Trent Green and Tom Brady probably around (though it’s heavy with Boston people, so someone might grab Brady too high).

Eli, Trent or Tom?

For WRs, I assume I might have a shot at Chad Johnson with 14, though at 18 he’ll probably be gone – Anquan Boldin, Torry Holt and Marvin Harrison might also be there, but might not. Finally, Randy Moss is ranked low – reach up and grab him there (though there are some Raider fans in my league so he may go much higher than his 29 rank)?

Finally: QB or WR with 14?

Also – any good reccomendations for defenders? I think I’m going to base it on tackles because sacks, ints and fumble recoveries don’t seem to be predictable on a year to year basis.[/quote]

Alright, here are my thoughts.

At the 3 spot obviously you get the last of the Holy RB Trinity. Excellent.

With the 14th pick I think you should take the best WR1 on the board. Whoever that might be.

With the 18th pick I would do either of the following:

A. Take another top WR1 if one is available.
B. Take RB2 if you can get one.

I wouldn’t worry about a QB this early in the draft. Like AA has been saying, you should be able to find a decent QB later in the draft. Although, if Palmer is there at 18, it might be hard to pass on him. But whatever.

I would try to go two WR1’s if I were you. That way you can have a stud RB in one of the top 3 and two of the top 10 WRs. That’s a great start. You can always pick up a RB3 in the later rounds. That’s just me though.

Good luck with whatever you do though.

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[quote]BostonBarrister wrote:

Also – any good reccomendations for defenders? I think I’m going to base it on tackles because sacks, ints and fumble recoveries don’t seem to be predictable on a year to year basis.[/quote]

Oh and if you are going to base your DEF Player on tackles you need to get a top linebacker.

Ray Lewis - depends on health
Brian Urlacher
Shawn Merriman
Zach Taylor

Or even Troy Polamalu.