[quote]Reed wrote:
Pinning first gram tonight. Also the GH is bunk I got my money back. Since can’t get that I’m going to run 200mg EQ. The point was to get away from nor 19s completely but I need something for collagen production apparently. How ever 200mg compared to my usual gram is still a massive reduction.
As of tonight I am 213 after a day of eating and in compression shorts, gym shorts, socks and chucks. The photo in my avatar was taken about a week ago so I’ll use it as a before pic.
Using the lifts from my meet last month as my,starting weight maxes of…
Same body weight.
Squat 525 wrapped
Bench 300
Deadlift 565
Looking at
12 weeks
2000mg of Test E weekly
200mg of EQ weekly
Arimidex and Nolva on hand (blood work in 3 weeks will begin AI IF E2 CLIMBS ABOVE HIGH NORMAL)
Weeks 9-12
2000mg of Test E weekly
200mg of EQ weekly
Arimidex and Nolva on hand
100mg of Halo daily
will log about once a week.[/quote]
no offence, but you’re running gear like this and only benching 300? is that a typo?![/quote]
No I have benched 330 in the gym but, if you follow my log I have been having horrible issues with ulnar nerve in my right arm and for months now I have not been able to bench press without ridiculous pain. The 300 listed was the number I hit in to power lifting standard in November. Done very easily mind you but my I just am afraid to push it.
Reed, how did you go about finding a Dr that is willing to help you when he knows what you are doing pertaining to aas. I would like to do the same but just don’t really know how to go about it. Did you just get lucky with a cool doc or someone referred you to him?
If you tell a doc about aas use, can he refuse to help you if you don’t come off?
[quote]Reed wrote:
Pinning first gram tonight. Also the GH is bunk I got my money back. Since can’t get that I’m going to run 200mg EQ. The point was to get away from nor 19s completely but I need something for collagen production apparently. How ever 200mg compared to my usual gram is still a massive reduction.
As of tonight I am 213 after a day of eating and in compression shorts, gym shorts, socks and chucks. The photo in my avatar was taken about a week ago so I’ll use it as a before pic.
Using the lifts from my meet last month as my,starting weight maxes of…
Same body weight.
Squat 525 wrapped
Bench 300
Deadlift 565
Looking at
12 weeks
2000mg of Test E weekly
200mg of EQ weekly
Arimidex and Nolva on hand (blood work in 3 weeks will begin AI IF E2 CLIMBS ABOVE HIGH NORMAL)
Weeks 9-12
2000mg of Test E weekly
200mg of EQ weekly
Arimidex and Nolva on hand
100mg of Halo daily
will log about once a week.[/quote]
no offence, but you’re running gear like this and only benching 300? is that a typo?![/quote]
No I have benched 330 in the gym but, if you follow my log I have been having horrible issues with ulnar nerve in my right arm and for months now I have not been able to bench press without ridiculous pain. The 300 listed was the number I hit in to power lifting standard in November. Done very easily mind you but my I just am afraid to push it.
Did blood work on Day 14 results came in very fast. Won’t post all all but quick summary my Test levels came in at 5210ng/dl. The normal ranges for the lab are 300-1200 so obviously this is through the roof. The highest it ever was on a Gram was 3200ish. So saw a bit of diminishing return but still very impressed with the number. Doc said with it only being 2 weeks into it this number may climb a bit more but probably not alot more. My E2 levels unfortunately have climbed much higher going from 40pg/ml to 74pg/ml almost doubled. Normal range for the lab 14 - 55 pg/mL so yeah.[/quote]
You have a doctor following you with that stuff? That’s crazy.
Damn almost feel honored pulling you out of your hibernation. But no no insulin I have no source fro getting it really and the stuff you told me about being over the counter is not allowed with out a prescription in TN. Also I know so little about it I wouldn’t know how to use it safely.
[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
Reed, how did you go about finding a Dr that is willing to help you when he knows what you are doing pertaining to aas. I would like to do the same but just don’t really know how to go about it. Did you just get lucky with a cool doc or someone referred you to him?
If you tell a doc about aas use, can he refuse to help you if you don’t come off?[/quote]
Honestly I got lucky. I went for blood pressure related issues and not to Toot my own horn lol but literally he looked at me asked if I lifted weights seriously I said yes and he said are you on Steroids? I said yes. He then asked how much. I told him at the time 1000mg of Test, 750mg of Tren and 250mg Deca. He looked at me like I was crazy and Said ok… That is your problem guaranteed. Then he said do you want me to give you the steroids are bad and your stupid talk? I said no. Then he followed up with I figured that, so can I atleast give you the I know your not going to stop the drugs, so we need to do alot of blood work and labs and make sure you stay as healthy as possible while you do run them talk? And I said sure haha. Been friends since.
Legally and technically a doctor can not turn you away because he disagrees with what your doing and, is obligated by his oaths to keep you a healthy as possible. And treat you the best he can. Whether he gives his vest effort is a different story. Also it is illegal for him to report that use any Illegal substances such as AAS
Did blood work on Day 14 results came in very fast. Won’t post all all but quick summary my Test levels came in at 5210ng/dl. The normal ranges for the lab are 300-1200 so obviously this is through the roof. The highest it ever was on a Gram was 3200ish. So saw a bit of diminishing return but still very impressed with the number. Doc said with it only being 2 weeks into it this number may climb a bit more but probably not alot more. My E2 levels unfortunately have climbed much higher going from 40pg/ml to 74pg/ml almost doubled. Normal range for the lab 14 - 55 pg/mL so yeah.[/quote]
You have a doctor following you with that stuff? That’s crazy.
Yeah kinda he is a good guy I got pretty lucky
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[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
Reed, how did you go about finding a Dr that is willing to help you when he knows what you are doing pertaining to aas. I would like to do the same but just don’t really know how to go about it. Did you just get lucky with a cool doc or someone referred you to him?
If you tell a doc about aas use, can he refuse to help you if you don’t come off?[/quote]
Honestly I got lucky. I went for blood pressure related issues and not to Toot my own horn lol but literally he looked at me asked if I lifted weights seriously I said yes and he said are you on Steroids? I said yes. He then asked how much. I told him at the time 1000mg of Test, 750mg of Tren and 250mg Deca. He looked at me like I was crazy and Said ok… That is your problem guaranteed. Then he said do you want me to give you the steroids are bad and your stupid talk? I said no. Then he followed up with I figured that, so can I atleast give you the I know your not going to stop the drugs, so we need to do alot of blood work and labs and make sure you stay as healthy as possible while you do run them talk? And I said sure haha. Been friends since.
Legally and technically a doctor can not turn you away because he disagrees with what your doing and, is obligated by his oaths to keep you a healthy as possible. And treat you the best he can. Whether he gives his vest effort is a different story. Also it is illegal for him to report that use any Illegal substances such as AAS[/quote]
Ok cool, guess ill have to feel the Dr out first but ive always been dishonest when they ask just because I don’t want to be lectured, ill try telling the truth and see how it goes, could the Dr discontinue trt if you tell him about aas use? I feel like the answer is yes
[quote]jt339 wrote:
If you aren’t experiencing any estro sides, why are you worried about estro? I’ve had estro in the 300s before haha.[/quote]
Im nit worried about them which is why I said in a few weeks I will get blood work and unless its dangerously high or I experience sides then I won’t do anything.
[quote]eaboadar wrote:
Just out of curiosity: you seem somewhat reluctant to start AI. Any reason in particular? Bad experience?[/quote]
Even on a low dose I get very painful joints, energy shuts dwm, and have libido problems even when on test. No idea why but why but I hate it. [/quote]
[quote]eaboadar wrote:
Just out of curiosity: you seem somewhat reluctant to start AI. Any reason in particular? Bad experience?[/quote]
Even on a low dose I get very painful joints, energy shuts dwm, and have libido problems even when on test. No idea why but why but I hate it. [/quote]
Extreme over-responder?[/quote]
Only thing I can think of but, have no real proof. But, seriously all I used was Arimidex at .25mg daily and I’m sure its underdosed to be honest. I even went down to EOD and still had more problems than I was willing to deal with.
[quote]Nickjehook wrote:
Try aromasin, much milder and less issues with lipids and libido. Also very effective when on tren and deca opposed to tamoxifin [/quote]
[quote]Nickjehook wrote:
Try aromasin, much milder and less issues with lipids and libido. Also very effective when on tren and deca opposed to tamoxifin [/quote]
Can you explain this more please… Im not tracking.