I beleive your lifts 100%
and i think whoever doesnt is just playing devils advocate… i think everybody here should be able to see that you are 100% legit!
also can you give me some advice about how to increase my sqaut without being able to squat properly.
i have access to a smith machine, dumbbells up to 35kg, leg extension and leg curl that goes to 100kg.
Thanks
Scott
[quote]stallion wrote:
BTW, here is a squat set of 20 reps with 150kg from 21st of June this year. This was a few days after coming back from my layoff. 150kg is the most that I have of weight plates, to get more weight I have to use the buckets. I hope that the doubters are now conviced this is for real…
The point is really to do 20 reps. [/quote]
Stallion-- at the time you did the 150kgx20 what was your 1RM?
[quote]thosebananas wrote:
i beleive your lifts 100%
and i think whoever doesnt is just playing devils advocate… i think everybody here should be able to see that you are 100% legit!
also can you give me some advice about how to increase my sqaut without being able to squat properly.
i have access to a smith machine, dumbbells up to 35kg, leg extension and leg curl that goes to 100kg.
Thanks
Scott
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I do not advice to use smith machine, however, if you do not have access to free weights, it is better than nothing. Doing front-squats in the smith machine is better than ordinary squats in the smith machine imho.
You could also try smith machine bulgarian squats. Leg extensions and leg curl is not of much use when trying to increase the squat.
If you have the money or have somebody that could buy it for you, a squat rack at home is a good idea. That costs money tough. Nothing beats the real thing, check out your possibilities in the area, check if there is a powerlifitng club, a weightlifting club or something else.
Perhaps you could also do some work for a health club, then you get to workout for free. You could also put togheter your own equipment, use your fantasy, all you need is a bar and something that could act as weight.
What my 1RM was when i did 150kg x 20 ? I absolutely do not know. I haven’t tested a 1RM in a bloody long time. I have no urgent need to test that. I do it when I have surroundings that make it possible and feel like it. I can only base my best numbers about what I have done before…
Possibly I am weaker now, but not sure. The best squat ever is 220kg I think and a boxsquat of 230kg, and a IPF competition squat of 250kg. All these numbers are numbers that should have been higher. A powerlifter is not a powerlifter if he ever gets satisfied with his numbers.
[quote]stallion wrote:
thosebananas wrote:
i beleive your lifts 100%
and i think whoever doesnt is just playing devils advocate… i think everybody here should be able to see that you are 100% legit!
also can you give me some advice about how to increase my sqaut without being able to squat properly.
i have access to a smith machine, dumbbells up to 35kg, leg extension and leg curl that goes to 100kg.
Thanks
Scott
I do not advice to use smith machine, however, if you do not have access to free weights, it is better than nothing. Doing front-squats in the smith machine is better than ordinary squats in the smith machine imho. You could also try smith machine bulgarian squats. Leg extensions and leg curl is not of much use when trying to increase the squat.
If you have the money or have somebody that could buy it for you, a squat rack at home is a good idea. That costs money tough. Nothing beats the real thing, check out your possibilities in the area, check if there is a powerlifitng club, a weightlifting club or something else.
Perhaps you could also do some work for a health club, then you get to workout for free. You could also put togheter your own equipment, use your fantasy, all you need is a bar and something that could act as weight.
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i work for the council and there gyms all have smith machines, thats the gyms i am using. i do bulgarian squats with dumbells… 15/17kg dumbells at the minute.
there are no other gyms near me, the “powerlifting” gym is closed for refurbishment and the only other place with a squat rack is the one i was using but i have been denied access for now. i pray i will get back into it!
i cant afford a squat rack…
Stallion, how the hell did you only squat 250 with a 220 raw squat???
I can’t believe you’re only getting 30kg out of your gear. You shoulda been up closer to 280-300!!
[quote]Hanley wrote:
Stallion, how the hell did you only squat 250 with a 220 raw squat???
I can’t believe you’re only getting 30kg out of your gear. You shoulda been up closer to 280-300!![/quote]
I did 250kg with gear a long time ago. At that time I probably had a smaller 1RM RAW. It was in 2007 I did 250kg in competition. A while after that I injuried my lower back, and has not been into a competition since.
I am probably good for more than 250kg, but I won’t brag about that since it is what you have actually lifted that counts. I have used the squat suit very little, and have not optimalized technique with gear. But many has said the same as you that I should have been squatting a lot more with gear.
I think patience is a good thing, and I just concentrate on getting my strength up. I think that depending too much on the gear is a crutch. I haven’t used a squat suit for a very long time, and have no idea what I would have done now. But I am pretty sure at the time i did the 230kg box squat I could have done more than 250kg in the squat suit.
I don’t think I got very much extra out of my suit compared to many other lifters. For instance a mate of me is on the national team and at the time of the nationals in 2007 he probably only lifted 10-20kg more than me RAW, but with a suit I think he lifted 35-40kg more than me.
I don’t like lifting with full gear very much, as I feel it is not the real deal, but it is what you do in competition so I have to exercise more with gear before I compete again which I think I will at some point.
However, over to the 20-rep squat challenge:
This weeks training:
Progression in the squat (only top set) week 27 - 2008
workout 1: monday 30 juni: 162.5x12
workout 2: monday 30 juni: 162.5x10
workout 1: tuesday 01 juli: 162.5x16
workout 2: tuesday 01 juli: 162.5x10
workout 1: wednesday 02. juli: 162.5x20
workout 2: wednesday 02. juli: 165x5
workout 1: thursday 03. juli: 165x10
workout 2: thursday 03. juli: 165x11
workout 3: thursday 03. juli: 165x12
workout 1: friday 04. juli: 165x13
workout 1: saturday 05. juli: 165x14
workout 1: sunday 06. juli: 165x20 (!!!) Yesss!!!
I was pretty tired on friday in the legs. A mate of mine said I would fry my CNS, but I have vacation and have nothing to do but to sleep, eat and relax.
Video of 165kg x 20 reps will come later.
So your legs were tired on Friday?? Can’t imagine why…
That’s a crazy workout, but if your body can hang with it, all the more power to you.
When I had hit my max 20 rep weight, I was doing a workout similar to the Super Squats workout, with some added exercises in there. I had read it in one of the MILO magazines which was an excerpt from an old magazine article.
I have to find it again. Never felt stronger than when I was doing that workout. I also never felt like throwing up more so than when I did those workouts. Hmmm…
[quote]Flapjack399 wrote:
So your legs were tired on Friday?? Can’t imagine why…
That’s a crazy workout, but if your body can hang with it, all the more power to you.
When I had hit my max 20 rep weight, I was doing a workout similar to the Super Squats workout, with some added exercises in there. I had read it in one of the MILO magazines which was an excerpt from an old magazine article.
I have to find it again. Never felt stronger than when I was doing that workout. I also never felt like throwing up more so than when I did those workouts. Hmmm…[/quote]
To quote Paul Anderson:
“If you don’t bend those legs and do those squats, you’ll never reach your potential.”
You can do a lot more than you think is possible. The legs and the back is the largest muscles in the body. The legs can tolerate more training than upper body. Maybe some are different, but this is very true for me.
I don’t do like this every week of course. But I have done smolov a few times, and when you have survived that, everything else seems like a vacation.
The workouts are very short. A typical workout is like:
50kg x 10
90kg x 5-10
110kg x 3
130kg x 2
work set x maks reps.
Then the next workout I try to increase the reps in the work set, repeat this till i hit 20 reps. Then increase the weight and repeat it all over.
In addition to this there of course is upper body work and some hamstring work.
Video from today will be available here once processed:
Great video…!!
youve done way more than you needed to prove yourself. WELL DONE
200kg x20 by the end of the year! 
[quote]thosebananas wrote:
great video…!!
youve done way more than you needed to prove yourself. WELL DONE
200kg x20 by the end of the year! :P[/quote]
Thanks. I guess there will still be sceptics, there always will be. But I bust my ass and do my best, and then I am satisfied. That’s what matters. I’d love to see someone else perform 20 rep of squats as well.
I am not sure about 200kg x 20. Lol… that would be awesome. Not sure how long I am going to do this high-rep stuff, I was thinking of quitting it for a while when I hit 170kg x 20, but perhaps I have another opinion when I hit that weight.
Over the next week we will probably see some more videos in this thread. After all there is so much talk about Super Squat program and do 20 reps of a 10 rep weight in the squat, so there should be someone willing to take this challenge.
Even tough I performed well alone in my basement, it is an undeniable fact that having a good spotter and some verbal encouragement during a high rep set could give even better results. With a spotter you do not have to be afraid of failing with a very heavy weight.
When you lift alone, you need to have control. If you are not sure you can do the next rep, then it is better to rack it then to risk some disaster. However, the lower the percentage is compared to your 1RM, the easier it is to force the rep.
There are more in you than you think, and most often when you think that you are totally wasted, you have more reps in you.
I’ve tried some outdoor running up a steep hill, and I would say that it feels 10 times worse than a high rep squat set. But I guess it is all a matter of adaption. What you do often, the body will adapt to.
The high reps were a lot worse when I started doing them, then what they are now. They are still brutally hard, but not feeling as awful as in the beginning.
im in for this challenge if and when i get back into my gym. if i dont i might have a cunning plan for lifting something awful weird but it would be a squat… and do it 20 times…
hopefully it wont come to that though.
Scott
[quote]DickBag wrote:
Switching from “your all pricks, fuck you all” to “lets all have some friendly competition” is not an easy transition and it is completly obvious that your throwing out abuse at everyone while trying to appear like the bigger man on the highground. Which reeks of insecurity.
trying to be mature and then becoming abusive doesnt work.
at your age you should know this.
im 22 by the way.
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Nice to have a dialogue with you. 
I hope my new video convinces you of the legitimacy of the buckets, if not there is not much I can do until the time comes when I can afford more weight plates.
I was trying to set you on fire to make you angry so that you’d go to the gym and do some brutal 20-rep squatting.
Regarding the playground issue. I’m a small fish in the pound, but my effort I think can be compared to anyone.
Now let’s stop the bullshit and get back to some real lifting ?
Can you deliver? 
20 reps - in the gym - and then upload a video ?
[quote]thosebananas wrote:
im in for this challenge if and when i get back into my gym. if i dont i might have a cunning plan for lifting something awful weird but it would be a squat… and do it 20 times…
hopefully it wont come to that though.
Scott[/quote]
Lifting something awful weird sounds good, I would not object to watch a video of that!
Props to stallion for walking the walk. 20 rep squats are the toughest thing I’ve ever done. Last time I didn’t get past 270 lbs. due to a nagging knee pain but maybe this time everything will work out. I’m going to see how 225 x 20 feels on leg day and if I don’t break anything then I’ll join you guys.
Starting out light but got a 195 lbs for 20 which I easily ciould of done more. Gonna try for 205 tomorrow.
TornadoTommy, always very important to pay attention to injuries. It is not worth it risking the health. If you can do it, you are welcome to join the challenge!
I think I’ll give it a go today. Although I have never looked at 10 rep max. My 8x3 is 100kg and my 4x6 is 87.5kg, all at active failure, so I think I’ll stick 90kg on the bar.
[quote]echelon101 wrote:
I think I’ll give it a go today. Although I have never looked at 10 rep max. My 8x3 is 100kg and my 4x6 is 87.5kg, all at active failure, so I think I’ll stick 90kg on the bar.[/quote]
Wonderful! You have to start somewhere. So that sounds like a great starting point. Do as many reps as you can. If you hit 20, then great! then you can try a bigger weight next time around. If you cannot get 20, just keep the weight and try again the next day, or a few days later if that’s what you prefer!
[quote]stallion wrote:
thosebananas wrote:
im in for this challenge if and when i get back into my gym. if i dont i might have a cunning plan for lifting something awful weird but it would be a squat… and do it 20 times…
hopefully it wont come to that though.
Scott
Lifting something awful weird sounds good, I would not object to watch a video of that!
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been thinking about this… it would not in the strickest sense of the word be a squat. but it would be on my back (maybe front) as i doing a squating motion…
mmmmm., ponders
[quote]FightingScott wrote:
You get mad extra points for using BUCKETS at weights. [/quote]
Did he get the idea from Unbreakable?
Nice lifting!