I let the guy at GNC talk me into trying a bottle of NO2 and the book that accompanies it. No big deal if it turns out to be a waste of time, I don’t mind trying something different here and there.
I was wondering if anyone here at T-nation had tried NO2 or had thoughts on it, I really don’t have any thoughts on it yet myself, too early to say. I will say the book makes it sound like the wonder pill, but then just about everything in GNC claims the same.
I tried it and to tell you the truth its complete garbage. All NO2 is, is a time released L-arginine which is a single amino acid. Hell I realized I payed $150 for L-Arginine when I could have got a normal bottle of it for $20.
And the results well I lost weight on it and if you do get any good results from it it probably is from the creatine your suppose to add in after 2 weeks to mask the shit results youll get from just doing the NO2.
You will get a good pump from your workouts and they do last longer but who gives a crap about that. Hell I could spend $5 on bananas or $15 on vanadyl sulfate and get the same effects.
PPP
i’ve seen these supplements as well, and wanted to read up on them, but never did… please let us know how they work 
Never let a GNC cashier talk you into buying anything. Research first. If you’d have done that, you’d have found this article on this very site and saved some money:
I tried it, and never finished the bottle. I did the recomendations: never gainied any extra muscle, never felt better pumps during lifting, never felt the constant pump. My opionion. WORTHLESS. Opion of T-nation from what I have read. Junk.
I used MAG-10 and had amazing results
I actually stopped by GNC to pick up some MRP’s (if you go the last day of the 20% off week you actually get 30% of) and the skinny fat kid behind the counter claimed to have gained 26lbs on the shit! I know way too many people who use it and can not tell any differance in them since they have started using it. if I was going to even give it a try I would do like mentioned above and just grab some arginine
I know a handful of people who thought that NO2 was a wonder pill, but when looking at them after two months of taking that crap, the results weren’t anything more than you’d expect for someone to half ass their workouts for a month and a half (nothing much really).
Get your diet in line, get your workouts in line, get your lifestyle in line, you’ll make good progress.
I will get creamed for this, but I like it from a mental standpoint. My muscles always feel full and hard and I always get a pump when I lift. I am willing to pay for those benefits because feeling that way makes me bigger and stronger and it is worth it to me to feel that way. Placebo effect at its finest, but I will take it!
Tried it, loved it! Gained 18 pounds in 2 months, endurance and strength shot up.
It may be age related though. As you’ve seen, a lot of guys got no results. I’m older and may have benefitted more.
Try it. You may be one of the lucky ones.
Note: it’s not fair to compare time-released arginine with arginine. Apples and oranges!!
cool, I’m glad I asked the question; there were a lot of good responses on both sides. For those who found the product worked, did you stack it with creatine after the initial 2 weeks as instructed or do you just do the NO2.
Ablsolute garbage.
I didn’t get the results I was expecting (no pump, little weight gain). I called them to ask what to do as it seemed I was some how in the 5% or so of non responders. They told me to increase the amount of pills per serving. That didn’t work either.
All the creatine does is masks your NO2 results, makes it look like your getting great results from NO2.
NO2 alone does shit all!
PPP
My ex-roommate led a major study of NO2 at Baylor University. The double-blind study showed no differences between the placebo and treatment groups in terms of body mass, and only a slightly significant difference in 1-rep max (and this was apparently due in large part to one outlier who gained a ton of strength).
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Wow, I’m a minority on this one! Anyway, you have to eat a lot of carbs to get the effect. You really have to pound down the oatmeal, whole wheat bread, etc. I use Cell Tech (sorry about mentioning a competitor on this site) because of the sugar. So, cycle off creatine for 10 days, on for 6 weeks, cycle off again, etc. The CT should be your only simple carbs.
Hell, it may be placebo, but it works for me! Creatine did nothing for me before.
“Time Released Arginine”? Are you kidding me?!
Sorry guys but that’s bullshit.
Cheers
$150! Wow did you get Hoe’d! You could have bought 420 capsules of 4AD for that much. I hate GNC because of shit like that.
There was a small chain of mom and pop vitamin stores in my area that had the best prices in town till they got bought up by GNC. The first thing GNC did was raise the prices %30. When I complained, they politely informed me that I could come back on the gold card day and get a price that was still higher than what I could walk in and get any day of the month, before the take over.
I’ve been boycotting GNC ever since, unless I am absolutely desperate.
Me personally, I’ve tried a few and found them to be comparable in effect to most creatine products with less weight gain. BUTT the price typically blows. However if you know where to look you can get a much better price than any retail store,espec GNC which sucks the snotty end.
It may be that people not getting results are not doing long enough sets. See Issue #284, Superman Sets. A set, to cause growth, should be about 30 to 70 seconds long. Pick a weight you can explode with for about 30 seconds. Work up to 60 secs. When you can do this for 6 sets, rest a week, then add a few pounds and start over. (This is my adaptation of Waterbury’s article.) Also, as he recommends, do a heavy day, which I do once/month, using 5-4-3-2-1.
On NO2: I think the real test is in the sales. If it sucked, it’d be gone by now. Some people, like myself, must be getting results. Real world rules and nothing is more real than the $$$.
[quote]peartmath wrote:
Wow, I’m a minority on this one! Anyway, you have to eat a lot of carbs to get the effect. You really have to pound down the oatmeal, whole wheat bread, etc.
Hell, it may be placebo, but it works for me! Creatine did nothing for me before.[/quote]
Anyone who goes from low or moderate carbs to high carbs will get a better pump in the gym. So this is likley the carbs and not the NO2. And remember, a pump is not necessary for muscle growth in the first place. It’s nice, but it’s just a temporary cosmetic feeling, not actual muscle growth.
[quote]peartmath wrote:
On NO2: I think the real test is in the sales. If it sucked, it’d be gone by now. Some people, like myself, must be getting results. Real world rules and nothing is more real than the $$$.[/quote]
Doesn’t quite explain the popularity of creatine serum and other products that are known to be garbage.