[quote]UtahLama wrote:
SO you really think a half hispanic person who protested in favor of a black youth who was beaten by police, was a stalking racist.
See how crazy it all sounds?[/quote]
I never said Zimmerman was a racist…and hispanic doesn’t equal black so what the hell are you talking about?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
No offense, but that doesn’t make your point better, it makes it worse.
You are claiming race hate crimes…for a guy who hung with someone whose family was half white?[/quote]
I was saying that the youth who wrote racist tweets, who picked a person out to kill who happened to be the race he said he hated…should be charged with a hate crime, yes.
Your defense is his buddy was half white?
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
No offense, but that doesn’t make your point better, it makes it worse.
You are claiming race hate crimes…for a guy who hung with someone whose family was half white?[/quote]
I was saying that the youth who wrote racist tweets, who picked a person out to kill who happened to be the race he said he hated…should be charged with a hate crime, yes.
Your defense is his buddy was half white?
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Uh, yeah…it is hard to claim you want to kill all white people…when your best friend is half white and drives you to do it.
Uh, no…it doesn’t make sense.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
SO you really think a half hispanic person who protested in favor of a black youth who was beaten by police, was a stalking racist.
See how crazy it all sounds?[/quote]
I never said Zimmerman was a racist…and hispanic doesn’t equal black so what the hell are you talking about?[/quote]
You said he was a profiling stalker…so stalking somebody (if he did) because of skin color is not racist?
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
SO you really think a half hispanic person who protested in favor of a black youth who was beaten by police, was a stalking racist.
See how crazy it all sounds?[/quote]
I never said Zimmerman was a racist…and hispanic doesn’t equal black so what the hell are you talking about?[/quote]
You said he was a profiling stalker…so stalking somebody (if he did) because of skin color is not racist?[/quote]
Not necessarily, because once again, I never said he was racist.
Most cops are “profiling stalkers” also.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
No offense, but that doesn’t make your point better, it makes it worse.
You are claiming race hate crimes…for a guy who hung with someone whose family was half white?[/quote]
I was saying that the youth who wrote racist tweets, who picked a person out to kill who happened to be the race he said he hated…should be charged with a hate crime, yes.
Your defense is his buddy was half white?
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Uh, yeah…it is hard to claim you want to kill all white people…when your best friend is half white and drives you to do it.
Uh, no…it doesn’t make sense.[/quote]
Lets suppose his dad was white, and abandoned him and he was raised by his black mother and family.
Any number of things could make him support what was going on.
We have no idea of HIS motives.
We do have a pretty good idea of his friends…because, HE WROTE THEM DOWN.
You argue semantics better than anybody I know.
Headache is here, and I am out.
Carry on the goalpost moving, you are NFL level.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
No offense, but that doesn’t make your point better, it makes it worse.
You are claiming race hate crimes…for a guy who hung with someone whose family was half white?[/quote]
I was saying that the youth who wrote racist tweets, who picked a person out to kill who happened to be the race he said he hated…should be charged with a hate crime, yes.
Your defense is his buddy was half white?
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Uh, yeah…it is hard to claim you want to kill all white people…when your best friend is half white and drives you to do it.
Uh, no…it doesn’t make sense.[/quote]
Lets suppose his dad was white, and abandoned him and he was raised by his black mother and family.
Any number of things could make him support what was going on.
We have no idea of HIS motives.
We do have a pretty good idea of his friends…because, HE WROTE THEM DOWN.[/quote]
LOL!
His TWO comments sound like troll shit…like you write often.
His best friend who drove him to kill people was half white and looks it wholly.
If YOU want to carry that “race hate crime” torch, so be it.
It just doesn’t fit.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
You argue semantics better than anybody I know.
Headache is here, and I am out.
Carry on the goalpost moving, you are NFL level.[/quote]
Do you really think that if a white kid had shot a black person in the back and had posts saying “I knocked out 5 niggers this week” and “90% of black people are nasty” the outrage would be the same? Really? If so, you are living on a different planet. That is the problem.
The double standard is so apparent that it isn’t even funny. And then throw in the fact that every, EVERY, murder is a shame and speaks poorly about Society, yet our politicians constantly use these murders to stir emotion and really have no desire to fix these problems is truly alarming.
Once again, why does Trayvon look like Obama’s son, yet the little arab kid that is turned into a crater hole not a bigger deal. And this isn’t just about the President, all these fucking politicians do this. Sandy Hook, Columbine, Emmett Till, whatever. Fake outrage while we constantly kill innocent people all across the world, but hey, they don’t look like our sons and daughters so who gives a fuck.
[quote]dk44 wrote:
Do you really think that if a white kid had shot a black person in the back and had posts saying “I knocked out 5 niggers this week” and “90% of black people are nasty” the outrage would be the same? Really? If so, you are living on a different planet. That is the problem. [/quote]
If his best friend looked like Obama and drove the damn car, I am sure the same questions would be asked.
[quote]dk44 wrote:
Do you really think that if a white kid had shot a black person in the back and had posts saying “I knocked out 5 niggers this week” and “90% of black people are nasty” the outrage would be the same? Really? If so, you are living on a different planet. That is the problem.
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He ignored this…don’t bother.
According to him, kid was just trolling.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]dk44 wrote:
Do you really think that if a white kid had shot a black person in the back and had posts saying “I knocked out 5 niggers this week” and “90% of black people are nasty” the outrage would be the same? Really? If so, you are living on a different planet. That is the problem.
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He ignored this…don’t bother.
According to him, kid was just trolling.
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LOL…type faster.
If his best friend looked like Obama and drove the damn car, I am sure the same questions would be asked.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
You argue semantics better than anybody I know.
Headache is here, and I am out.
Carry on the goalpost moving, you are NFL level.[/quote]
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Thank God others see it. It’s not a good look for him. He is just an inept debater and thus has to resort to insults and misdirection. Sad, really. Also, to DarkNinja: What has happened to you in your life to make you so hateful? I feel bad for you. I mean, I’ve had it pretty bad, but you don’t see me going around making disgusting and profane remarks left and right.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]dk44 wrote:
Do you really think that if a white kid had shot a black person in the back and had posts saying “I knocked out 5 niggers this week” and “90% of black people are nasty” the outrage would be the same? Really? If so, you are living on a different planet. That is the problem.
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He ignored this…don’t bother.
According to him, kid was just trolling.
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LOL…type faster.
If his best friend looked like Obama and drove the damn car, I am sure the same questions would be asked. [/quote]
Is this really all you got? Type faster? It doesn’t matter if you type faster because that doesn’t change how biased and dense you are. I mean, after 50,000 posts I’d hope that you’d have developed an impressive typing speed. How does Utah’s typing speed have anything to do with the validity of his post? And, no, your answer was not sufficient. Just because the drive was HALF WHITE that makes it not a hate crime? This shit is ridiculous. The kid tweeted that he HATES WHITE PEOPLE. How can it be any clearer than that? X, you are just trying to argue when you know how it looks. The kid committed a hate crime. Yes, black people ARE capable of this. Who knew?
If Obama had a son, he would look like one of the shooters.
Where is Obama on this ?
He felt compelled to speak about the death of Trayvon Martin.
In this case and the Trayvon Martin case, both racial slurs came from the non-Whites.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
No offense, but that doesn’t make your point better, it makes it worse.
You are claiming race hate crimes…for a guy who hung with someone whose family was half white?[/quote]
I was saying that the youth who wrote racist tweets, who picked a person out to kill who happened to be the race he said he hated…should be charged with a hate crime, yes.
Your defense is his buddy was half white?
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Uh, yeah…it is hard to claim you want to kill all white people…when your best friend is half white and drives you to do it.
Uh, no…it doesn’t make sense.[/quote]
Honest question, and by the way new information shows that this is more likely a gang initiation and not hate crime, BUT aren’t ‘half whites’ identify as black by the black community?
Obama is NOT black in my eyes, neither is Halle Barry or Beyonce etc. To me they are of mixed race, which I think is a lot more awesome (I have two mixed race kids 
) yet in the media they are identified as black. We, according to the media, as well as you, have a BLACK president and Halle is the first BLACK actress to win an Oscar.
So could it not be that this kid doesn’t consider his best friends “white”?
Again, I do not believe this to be a race motivated crime BUT since so many different issues were raised in this thread I hope you don’t mind taking some time to share with me your point of view on this.
I ask because my best friend, who is from Suriname and a descendant of West Africa slaves so he is very, very dark, will never refer to mixed race children as black. Neither would his family. They call them Creole, or mixed or Eur-African but never black.
I am curious as to why in the States they are identified as black. Lived here for 18 years and never really figured that one out. Always felt weird to me to call a mixed kid ‘black’ and ignore the Asian/white/Hispanic part.
[quote]dk44 wrote:
yet the little arab kid that is turned into a crater hole not a bigger deal. And this isn’t just about the President, all these fucking politicians do this. Sandy Hook, Columbine, Emmett Till, whatever. Fake outrage while we constantly kill innocent people all across the world, but hey, they don’t look like our sons and daughters so who gives a fuck.
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And don’t worry, your phone is now tapped, computer and email hacked and you will be targeted by the IRS for daring to go against Big Brother.
FORWARD!
[quote]dk44 wrote:
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You seem to be paying attention, so you might like this guy
He is pretty much a Constitutionalist who hates the vast majority of establishment politicians from both parties. He is pretty fair and entertaining.
He does a history podcast as well that is stellar.
This link in particular is on the Snowden leaks.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]dk44 wrote:
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You seem to be paying attention, so you might like this guy
He is pretty much a Constitutionalist who hates the vast majority of establishment politicians from both parties. He is pretty fair and entertaining.
He does a history podcast as well that is stellar.
This link in particular is on the Snowden leaks. [/quote]
Ha, man I absolutely love the guy, and have listened to that particular episode at least 5 times. Love the Common Sense podcast, haven’t listened to Hardcore History much but trying to start. It is amazing how blind people are right now. The 4th amendment is as dead as a doornail, and govt. corruption is higher than ever. So amazing to see this play out. We are being played people, wake up. It is so blatant, hell the govt. doesn’t even try to hide the corruption anymore. The fact that anyone trusts these slimeballs is unbelievable. I cannot fathom how anyone can believe a word these fucks say.