1st Time, 3wk Cycle Test/EQ/dBol

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Gents - First of all thanks for the time reading. I’ll try to keep this brief:

Stats and Situation: 27 y/o, 170 lbs, ~10% bf (the lighting in the pic was kind to me). Training consistently for ~12 yrs, weight fluctuated between 150-185 (weight was lower during my time in the Army, higher when I got out). I won’t bother with lift stats (I’m above average in strength for my weight), but if need be just ask. This will be my 1st cycle, looking to lean down to ~7% bf while maintain lean body mass.

Gear - Forgive me for not abbreviating:
(dBol?) - 25mg @ 2X per day
SUPERSUSTANON - 400MG/ML @ 0.5CC 2X per wk (T,TH)
Equipoise - 400MG/ML @ 1.0CC 1X per wk (W)

With this short cycle (3 on, 6 off to start) I don’t have an AI, but will be taking full dose of REZ-V, milled flax seeds, and heavy Vit C. I will also be taking HOT-ROX throughout.

Training: My training will be 10 sessions per wk, with doubles on M,T,W,TH, upper/lower split, heavy/light split on 2Xdays. Diet will be carb cycling (as I’m further cutting), ~2000 kCal daily with most carbs only for pariworkout nutrition. I’m pretty good with my training/diet, but if you’d like to inquire further please ask away.

My main concern here is because I don’t have any AI. My source was (very) indirect, but from my research is that the 3wk short cycle will minimize the side effects dramatically. Of course I’m looking for sustainable/consistent gains here, thus is the other part of my reasoning for the short cycle. Also, since EQ takes a while to kick in, should I just cut it out completely unless doing a longer cycle?

I’m also open to lengthening the cycle to Test/EQ only, low dosage still with no AI. Thoughts? I know I’m playing with fire here but it seems that dBol is mainly used for bulking (which I don’t mind adding a few lbs of LBM).

Apologies on the questions being unorganized. As always, feel free to ask away if you need any other relevant information.

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3 Weeks? Good luck with that. At the very least use some faster acting compounds, but 3 Weeks will be a waste of your time either way IMO

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low dose test/eq for 3 weeks will do nothing

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your source sucks … equipoise should be run at least 3 months, not weeks

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Dude do some research please. Your source will have forever keep you a customer if you listen to that advice. I can really dissect everything wrong with this post but I’ll save you the flame and my time and just tell you to look up some great first cycles and how exactly to get started in the steroid world. Google is your friend. Good luck man.

Chizeled

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Thanks guys for saving me the flame (especially @Chizeled). I did more research and have realized the errors of my ways. I’ve decided to do a Sus only cycle for 10-12 weeks (600mg/wk, 200mg split M/W/F), Clo + Nov to follow 3 wks after last pin. I’ll also be running dex while on cycle EOD at 0.25mg. My only concern here is that I have no HCG, which I know is not a 100% must but would help the PCT rebound. My plan is to go to the doc after 4 weeks after my nuts shink a bit, try to get proscribed some HCG, and get a blood test done while at it. Thoughts?

On another note, what gauge needle is best? I was thinking 23 or 25.

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Looks good to me, hcg is nice extra but not necessary for a cycle like this, but having a plan to try to get a quick perscription would be nice, I do like having it around.

25g is fine, the bigger the needle the less intrusive, you just dont want it fine enough to be hard to push the oil through.

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Good shit man. Now you’re learning lol. I’m sure you’ll be fine without HCG, I’ve seen a lot of young dudes get away without it cause our test levels should bounce back much faster than someone in their 40’s. Regardless I still recommend HCG. Also that seems like a nice little run there. If you think you have your diet and training dialed in, I usually suggest an oral at the tail end of a Sust cycle because of its long ester.

Something like weeks 13-16 some low-mod dose Dbol(10-30mg) to squeeze out a couple more gains in the last weeks of your cycle. Also any of those sizes works. I’m a pussy when it comes to pinning so I order 29’s and I fit just almost everything through it, even some EQ 500mg/ml. Only flaw is that It’s much more of a longer process. Don’t take into offense of a lot of people’s remarks on here. We see countless ignorant posts and eventually it gets to us. As long as we see you try to learn, we’ll be much more willing to help. Good luck man keep us updated.

Chizeled

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Just find some hcg its not hard. Getting a script from a doc will be way harder and time consuming. Pin w 25 draw w 23

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Update:

2nd week in, everything still going as planned. I’ve brought dex down to 0.20mg only on the weekdays, as weekends can be quite random for me as far as where I sleep. Haven’t felt any additional strength gain yet, but from my research most physical changes are felt in weeks 3/4. Is this correct according to my fellow T-men’s experiences?

I’m pinning the upper left (on my left) and right (on my right) cheeks EOD, so I’m giving each side at least 4 days to recover. However, I do notice a dull pain, although it gets easier after day 3 (right before the next pin). This is normal yes? I’m using 23g 1 inch needles, pulled before injection (to check for blood in flash) and injecting 200mg over 20-30 secs.

Training/Diet is in order (I grew up on T-Nation, so no concerns here). My plan is to actually “cut” the 1st 4 weeks since my LBM would be preserved by the elevated T-levels, and when the physical strength gains kick in around wk 4 I’ll be ready to clean bulk (I got this idea from Coach T’s idea of leaning before bulking ideas) as my goals are to gain 10-15 lbs of muscle while dropping bf to >8%.

Also, getting blood work done Thursday to get some data, and will be getting it again in wk 6. Let me know your thoughts guys

Gentlemen please keep this informative, if you choose to flame me (as I deserve for being a newb) please provide your reasons behind the flame. Calling me this and that just adds to dead space.