Hi,
I planned out a solo cycle on 1.Anavar before @60mg ED 1-8weeks followed by a 4weeks PCT using Nolva @ 40/40/20/20
Many suggested to my to use Test E but I will be going solo as this is my first ever steriod cycle. I have just done 1 prohormone cycle in the past whihc was Cel P-mags for 6 weeks.
I will be dosing Var @60mg a day for 8 weeks which i have been told is a decent dose. I understand Var is not a heavy bulker so as I have some greed in gaining more weight I was suggested to use Dbol with my cycle.
2.The cycle
Dbol Ed @ 30mg for 1-4weeks
Anavar Ed @ 60mg for 1-8weeks
PCT Nolva @ 40/40/20/20 for weeks 9-12
Now even though this was recommended to me by some1 from another forum. Im not quite sure this will work. As many have sent me pm’s saying it will work go ahead and many have told me Var and Dbol are both heavily methylated steriods and you shoudl not combine them in a cycle. Plus I read on forums that you shouldnt do mixing of any chemicals such as what I plan to do use Dbol and Var.
Also some1 else told me Var is a methylated and so is Dbol and that I should stack Var with MLMG or Tren for real gains in Mass as these 2 prohormones are non methylated so would work with Var. But dont really wantto use prohormones.
The only thing is I ahve bought 8 weeks of Anavar and Nolva for PCT. But if most agree that Dbol will work for 4 weeks then I can get that too.
I know Anavar will shut me down at this dose and I understand I proper PCT must be done to start up natural production of test.
So I come to you guys Who seem to the the Pros. Can you please help me out. Should I got with the Anavar cycle only as its my first cycle or Would it be ok to do cycle 2 Dbol and Anavar as listed above.
Sorry for all the Story
Could I please get some help…
Someone is going to say this so i might as well say it first.
Why don’t you use basic testosterone for your first cycle like everyone(worth listening to) recommends ?
You can use Test prob if you want a short cycle. (You could even add the anavar on top but i highly recommend having a testosterone base).
"Many suggested to my to use Test E but I will be going solo as this is my first ever steriod cycle. I have just done 1 prohormone cycle in the past whihc was Cel P-mags for 6 weeks. "
What does this mean? do you mean that you are uncomfortable pinning alone? If that’s the case i would advice you to man the fuck up. Start with your quad until you get a feel for it then move on to the glute because that site is a lot less painful.
[quote]Hilldog wrote:
"Many suggested to my to use Test E but I will be going solo as this is my first ever steriod cycle. I have just done 1 prohormone cycle in the past whihc was Cel P-mags for 6 weeks. "
What does this mean? do you mean that you are uncomfortable pinning alone? If that’s the case i would advice you to man the fuck up. Start with your quad until you get a feel for it then move on to the glute because that site is a lot less painful.
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Hi No im not scared about pinning. Iv just never done it before. So just makes me abit nervous as i might misplace the needle and put the serum in the vien or something which could kill me, lol.
Yes its true everyone is telling me to use a test E, but the truth is a friend of mine used Test E and he gained some body weight I wouldnt say it was clean mass though. and he hardly gained any sgtrength from his 10 week cycle. So that kind of puts me off.
If I was given proper instructions or could find out how to pin e.g where to pin, how deep the needle should go, etc etc, I think I might use a test as a base.
But will Test really help me out with more mass on all body parts.#
What would you say are the real benefits from using a test apart from digging a needle into your body.lol.
Just google (steroid)injection sites, you can find loads of into on pinning. Just make sure you find info on IM injections but no IV. You can even find good walkthrough videos on youtube. It’s very easy, and if you hit a vein, you see it right away so there is no real danger unless you pump loads of oil into your veins.
I find it hard to believe he didn’t gain strength from a 10 week cycle of 600mg test-e. If he gained weight but no strength he probably didn’t eat right and or didn’t use an anti estrogen and thus only gained water(bloat). If you eat a ton and use an anti estrogen you will gain lots of muscle and strength just on test. (You will probably gain chest hair as well!)
I have never heard of different steroids putting mass on different bodyparts so i have no idead what your talking about with test helping putting mass on all body parts. Generally the bodyparts you train get bigger with or without steroids. All though everything kinda grows when your on cycle.
About the real benefits from test there are loads. It is the granddaddy of all steroids. You can even do some basic research on steroidsprofiles.com and see for yourself. You will feel increased sex drive, aggression and well being. Dbol without test can even cause erectile dysfunction which pure testosterone will probably help with. It has also been said time and time again on this board that it’s a good idea to learn how pure test will affect your body before trying more complex compounds.
All that being said, there are probably a lot of poster with more info on this than me, but i don’t think more knowledge is needed here, everything i have said could have been answered with less than 6 hours of researching the stickies here. So read the stickies and read up.
[quote]Hilldog wrote:
Just google (steroid)injection sites, you can find loads of into on pinning. Just make sure you find info on IM injections but no IV. You can even find good walkthrough videos on youtube. It’s very easy, and if you hit a vein, you see it right away so there is no real danger unless you pump loads of oil into your veins.
I find it hard to believe he didn’t gain strength from a 10 week cycle of 600mg test-e. If he gained weight but no strength he probably didn’t eat right and or didn’t use an anti estrogen and thus only gained water(bloat). If you eat a ton and use an anti estrogen you will gain lots of muscle and strength just on test. (You will probably gain chest hair as well!)[/quote]
What do you mean he probably never used a anti estrogen. do you mean PCT nolvadex. From what he told me he done a rpoper Pct using Nolva.
[quote]Hilldog wrote:
I have never heard of different steroids putting mass on different bodyparts so i have no idead what your talking about with test helping putting mass on all body parts. Generally the bodyparts you train get bigger with or without steroids. All though everything kinda grows when your on cycle.
About the real benefits from test there are loads. It is the granddaddy of all steroids. You can even do some basic research on steroidsprofiles.com and see for yourself. You will feel increased sex drive, aggression and well being. Dbol without test can even cause erectile dysfunction which pure testosterone will probably help with. It has also been said time and time again on this board that it’s a good idea to learn how pure test will affect your body before trying more complex compounds.
All that being said, there are probably a lot of poster with more info on this than me, but i don’t think more knowledge is needed here, everything i have said could have been answered with less than 6 hours of researching the stickies here. So read the stickies and read up.
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Thanks man for your help stay around though, lol
I am talking about estrogen control while on cycle. You can read about it in the stickes. Aromasin or Arimidex are most commonly used in low doses while on cycle…
Nolvadex is indeed used after cycle but that is another issue.
This is how I plan to run my cycle
My cycle
Test E 300-400mg a week 1-10
Anavar 60mg A day weeks 2-10
PCT
Nolva weeks 11-14 like this 40/40/20/20
The only question that comes to mind is that I will need to start the Test E 2 weeks before I start the Anavar as I have just 8 weeks Var. So need it to finish with the test right.
Also would I still see gains if I use just 150mg twice a week of test. thanks…
Arimedex is this by BPI nutrtion?
[quote]zeebodybuilder wrote:
Arimedex is this by BPI nutrtion?[/quote]
Please stop before you hurt yourself.
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]zeebodybuilder wrote:
Arimedex is this by BPI nutrtion?[/quote]
Please stop before you hurt yourself.[/quote]
Lol, was just messing…
I know this is the arimidex you are talking about…
if you’re not scared of pinning, you really would be better off running the 500mg of test a week for 12 weeks standard beginner cycle.
trust me
[quote]zeebodybuilder wrote:
Lol, was just messing…
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No you werent.
SB
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
if you’re not scared of pinning, you really would be better off running the 500mg of test a week for 12 weeks standard beginner cycle.
trust me[/quote]
Hi,
I understand what you are saying, But I read on other forums first time using test so use a low dose and see how your body reacts to it and then up the dose. This is written all over other forums out there.
Ok check my cycle below
My cycle
Test E 500mg a week 1-12
PCT
Nolva weeks 11-14 like this 40/40/20/20
Now what week should I start Anavar from. I have 8 weeks anavar to hand. I planned to dose it solo at first using 60mg a day. But now gotto add it with the test for definate.
Thanks
I would suggest 600mg Test E a week just because with most vials (that i have seen) that makes exactly 1.5 ml twice a week :).
but yeah, try to find Arimidex , Nolvadax and preferably HCG as well.
Also, you should be pretty advanced in your diet and training before you try this. How many kkals were you planning on consuming daily? And how’s your training?
The PCT is wrong. You should start the nolvadex 2 weeks from your last Test shot to let the test clear before your start the PCT.
Also you still need on-cycle estrogen control.
[quote]Hilldog wrote:
The PCT is wrong. You should start the nolvadex 2 weeks from your last Test shot to let the test clear before your start the PCT.
Also you still need on-cycle estrogen control.[/quote]
on cycle estrogen control that would be arimedex right?
Also just to clear things out I would only use Arimedex if needed and get sides otherwise I would not use it in Pct. Is this statement correct.
Also How much Arimedex is needed and how much would i be dosing it a day if I get Gyno bloat etc.
Has anyone herd of Triptorelin?
thanks
Hi, When Injecting twice a week into the thighs Do you have to swtitch the legs each dosing.