Doesn’t anyone think hopping on gear and GH at 18 is a bad idea?
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]butthole69 wrote:
Which brings me to another point. I have yet to notice anything in the way of effects/sides from the GH.
I am using 10iu’s e3d as of a few days ago. This is week 4. I am guessing i should just wait.
Today was day 4 on prop and dbol. Nothing yet.
My weight is going up now. Fat along with muscle, nothing special[/quote]
Even I, who is very insensitive to any carpal tunnel-type sides (a good way to test GH in the real world, assuming you can’t afford the $$$$ for lab tests) feels something off 10iu GH shot IM.
Basically, my hands will throb, but I’ll only notice it if I’m relaxing.
What brand you got there?
BBB[/quote]
I have Kigtropin. I only have 1 kit left. I have three kits of something called white diamond as well (kinda went out on a limb buying that one.)
Yeah I am surprised I have no sides or anything. My buddy who is on the same stuff is noticing a lot of fat loss though.
[quote]doombunney wrote:
to poster; was not aware you were going to bed at 9, not usual at all especially at your age. i have never gone to sleep before midnight so i understand now however your reasoning honestly did came across as something different.
to bbb or whatever you want to be called. im aware of how you (and a lot of people) love their documents and studies… yes im aware of everything you have posted, and i could probably find just as many studies that prove the opposite of any report or study given on any topic… to a certain extent they are garbage. and i have never seen a study yet that has anything comparable to a bodybuilder or elite athlete using exo sub though i would really like to, i have a feeling it would read differently…anyway i would have thought you would have known what i was saying about ability to process glucose more efficiently in presence of gh. i was not referring to its effects on insulin at all, though i am aware of it, there is more to a sugar than bodies response via insulin… and you dont know what i mean when i say judging by his looks? obviously thats all anyone has to go by. im sure we could request daily blood values and maybe hourly ones as well but i would argue with what is available his avatar is good enough to say his body assimilates glucose efficiently.
call it a blanket statement call it what you want… my science and basis for statement is a combination of cause/effect, observation and documentation measurable both by mirrors and scales
bottom line is op can handle much more than 500g carbs,(which i believe carb can lead to greater muscle gain than any macro provided prot and fat are in check) i would argue up to 1000g on some days.
do as you wish op. im not going to post anymore as my opinion is out and i no point on spending time and energy providing literature, reasons, etc…
good luck[/quote]
Yeah I forgot to mention I go to bed early.
And as I said, my carbs exceed 700
I’m flattered, I do utilize glucose very well 
cost per kit if you dont mind me asking?
- All the other brands are a little more expensive and I didn’t expect it to be top notch but I am really wondering now
[quote]butthole69 wrote:
115. All the other brands are a little more expensive and I didn’t expect it to be top notch but I am really wondering now[/quote]
115 what? Pounds or dollars?
If it is dollars, wow that is fucking cheap! Im getting my 100iu kits of Hygetropin at £150!
115 dollars. I have one source thats 100, the other is 115. I have two GH brands from both of them. What I don’t get is that all the stuff checks out based on comparative picture analysis.
If it’s all fake then I might as well email them my thanks for at least having the decency to use sterile oil etc. I can always be thankful for life
Yeah the Hygetropin is 125
$100 a kit? Yeah right dude that shit is probably insulin. Wtf are you doing shooting growth hormone at 18 years old anyways you realize that shit will bomb your natural levels right? And you can only get a tangible benefit if you are suppressing your levels with the stuff for 6+ months at a time so no short cycles to minimize damage…
I am running it for 8 months. And I’m pretty sure it’s legit, everything about its appearance checks out and all my buddies are getting results. My buddies are quite a bit older though. I have some more expensive GH that I have yet to open and I can always get the Jintropin if I try it and it works better.
Obviously I don’t have Saizen, but please don’t insult me by saying I am buying Insulin. I think I would know. At the same time, these comments are expected in such an outlandish thread.
As for bombing my GH levels, I am pretty sure lazy pituitaries are a condition you are born with so once I stop the GH I don’t believe that will be a problem.
Why am I doing it at 18? At the very least, when other 18 year-olds google “gh at 18”, they will be able to see what happens. Any permanent improvements to my physique in the bodybuilding sense would be welcome of course.
A little update: I have throbbing pain in my palms today. I am having a hard time deciding if it’s from killing it on olympic bar curls (they hurt the wrists a little) or GH sides. I’ll know soon enough.
Injecting GH does a pretty good job shutting down natural production, this is something in bodybuilding that goes undetected because testing GH levels is expensive and not a normal part of hormone panels that are done. You could be putting yourself at risk of having to be on growth for the rest of your life.
You are 18 years old making decisions that could have serious consequences for the rest of your life. You may be verbose and well written but to me doing this demonstrates naivety. What happens when you are 30 and want to have a kid but you can’t because you started taking gear when you were not even done with puberty?
[quote]INTERNETWARLORD wrote:
What happens when you are 30 and want to have a kid but you can’t because you started taking gear when you were not even done with puberty?[/quote]
if you’re gonna continue to do cycles, get sperm frozen… im not encouraging it but you might as well
[quote]butthole69 wrote:
I’ve heard good things about short cycles (ratio of sides to gains). I have 5 kits of GH right now. IGF-1, gear, and nolva are all on the way. Iâ??m not going to use it all at once obviously, just packin the fridge full for future use.
Weeks 1-6 100 mg prop eod or split ed
Weeks 1-4 Dbol (20,30,30,40)
Nolva for 3-4 weeks. Maybe throw in some clom to speed up recovery. I can get Arimidex if I need it.
Been on GH following somewhat of a BBB protocol totaling 49 iu’s every 3 weeks. Entering 3rd week. It’s legit, kigtropin, started sub q, went to IV, now IMing. Maybe itâ??s my natural GH and test levels, but my physique seems to be favoring a change towards mesomorphism (im bulking now, everytime I put on weight the fat seems to drop off during my off day leaving me lean despite my rather large intake of food. I have never been able to stay so lean on a bulk before. I will up my calories on cycle.
Everyone has read their share of annoying blogs about hesitant youngsters regarding their cycles. I will record the details and results of my cycle in an attempt to answer a lot of nervous/curious bodybuilder’s questions without ambiguity (you know those “will this stunt my growth”, "will my head get big while my arms get long? etc type questions). That’s what I was wondering when I decided to commit to this, never had those questions answered, so I’ll have to do it myself.
I train 4-6 times a week. Intuitively, so I’m not going to post a split.
I am fresh 18, 5 "7, training since I was 13, use high intensity (lifts can be as short as 30 mins), 175lbs, BF is your guess based on avatar.
Diet is painfully clean. 700+ carbs from brown rice, lentils, oats, and whole grain bread. protein is over 1.5 grams per pound. Caloric totals between 4500 and 5000.
This is my first cycle. I was going to use test E for 10 weeks solo, but I don’t want to go longer than 6 weeks, which lead me to prop. I thought dbol would be a good kickstart (yes, despite all the warnings you veterans give regarding Dbol and first timers.)
I will start when my stuff arrives in a week (around week 4 of the GH). Hopefully this gathers some interest and support in the meantime.
btw my username was a mistake, i thought that was the password box lol[/quote]
you eat more calories than I do. and im 285+
you eat more calories than I do. and im 285+[/quote]
That’s how I pack the pounds on man.
Update: Weight is up to 185. I was pretty pumped, but maybe some of that weight is food in my gut. Lots of water I’m geussing
[quote]INTERNETWARLORD wrote:
Injecting GH does a pretty good job shutting down natural production, this is something in bodybuilding that goes undetected because testing GH levels is expensive and not a normal part of hormone panels that are done. You could be putting yourself at risk of having to be on growth for the rest of your life.
You are 18 years old making decisions that could have serious consequences for the rest of your life. You may be verbose and well written but to me doing this demonstrates naivety. What happens when you are 30 and want to have a kid but you can’t because you started taking gear when you were
not even done with puberty?[/quote]
Yeah I am pretty verbose. No one else has complained yet though, they’re probably used to pretentious assholes. I’m getting pretty used to them myself…
any updates?
[quote]butthole69 wrote:
[quote]INTERNETWARLORD wrote:
Injecting GH does a pretty good job shutting down natural production, this is something in bodybuilding that goes undetected because testing GH levels is expensive and not a normal part of hormone panels that are done. You could be putting yourself at risk of having to be on growth for the rest of your life.
You are 18 years old making decisions that could have serious consequences for the rest of your life. You may be verbose and well written but to me doing this demonstrates naivety. What happens when you are 30 and want to have a kid but you can’t because you started taking gear when you were
not even done with puberty?[/quote]
Yeah I am pretty verbose. No one else has complained yet though, they’re probably used to pretentious assholes. I’m getting pretty used to them myself…[/quote]
Lol, well played.
I was an idiot and I split an order of GH and gear between two sources. I got test e and GH from one source, and prop and dbol from the other. Well the test e and GH was legit, but my other source gave me some undosed sterile oil. 2 ml EOD yielded nothing. The dbol was very underdosed. New gear will arrive again on monday, so that should be legit since the winny and test e was good
I am a little under 190lb right now. I upped my cals when I started the BS cycle so I added a little more fat than I would have liked.
As for the GH, I am starting to see more effects. My skin is all clean and glowy, and in bed at night my hands get tingly. My palms throb and hurt a little, along with other joints at times.
Unless pros from GH become dramatically more pronounced I think it’s a waste of money for a person my age to use it.
BUT, here’s an idea. Using GH when you’re natural levels are low gives noticeable results BECAUSE you are creating a difference between your previous levels and your current ones. So it would make sense that noticeable effects are created from the disparity between what you can naturally put out and what you’re injecting. THEN it would follow that for adolescents to those in their twenties, effective GH dosing would need to be much higher in order to create the necessary increase in levels. The question is what will give you results, and what’s going to give you acromegaly or excessive organ growth?
Right now I am using 10iu e3d. My buddies prefer to go ED at about 6ius. What do you guys think of 15-20 ius E3d?
Also, I wanted to affirm what BBB said about intestinal lining growth from IGF-1 sloughing off 2-3 weeks after discontinuation since it happened to me, virtually over night.
^i wouldnt say GH is useless for you… well maybe with other AAS, yah, but with AAS it should help a lot
that sucks about your fake gear, happened to me twice.
igf-1 made your intestinal lining grow? how can you tell?