There is hardly any mafia in the north of Italy compared to the southern part.
I went to Venice, Verona and obviously Vicenza.
Yeah, that’s my point. You’ve been to the “best” part of Italy… You can’t understand what it’s like in the southern regions unless you live there.
I am from the north too, so neither I can fully grasp it. My mother and that whole side of my family is from Naples though. I learned something about the way it is over there thanks to movies, the news, and knowing some people that came from over there.
At first it’s hard to understand just how different the two halves of Italy really are. It’s always been like this, historically.
America is like that too. E Stl, Detroit, parts of St Louis and many inner cities are worlds unto their own. So I do understand. It’s not just an Italian thing. But I was blown away at the beauty, the slower deliberate pace of life, the food, the history. I want to go back.
Just my opinion here, but I am not convinced a robbery of a watch should constitute reasonable self defense (it is understood in this scenario that you give the watch you walk away). You can put in an insurance claim. Law aside, if someone wants my watch and has a gun to me, I am giving them the watch even if I have a gun. The cop here sounds a bit unstable IMO, and should likely not be an officer even if found to be not guilty.
If the cop did shoot the kid in the back of the head he should at least be prosecuted (I will not say if he should get prison time or not, that would require looking at all the evidence).
This might be the safest thing generally, but let’s not forget that complying with orders does NOT guarantee safety.
People can be mugged, submit to the requests of the aggressor, and still be killed.
It doesn’t matter why a gun is pointed at your head, only that it is. It’s a life threat either way.
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Your highest probability of surviving involves giving the watch to the person with the gun though.
IMO, a trial is warranted with the kid getting shot in the back of the head.
In L.A. County you are required to carry off-duty if you have police identification on you. That is a department policy though, and not all departments have that.
This “kid” forfeited his right to self preservation when he held a gun on a man for his watch. Self preservation is our most innate trait as humans.
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If it’s displayed ?
Exactly. We have a ton of cases here where a victim complies and is still shot
What I am saying is the first shot may be warranted legally (although IMO it is a smarter move to just hand over the watch). Wither the shot to the back of the head is warranted is debatable, and should be decided by a jury in a trial. IMO, it is only a small amount of circumstances in which the second shot is warranted. If it is found that it was unwarranted, the cop should be sentenced.
No. If you have it on you. There was a robbery at a beauty shop a while back where two off duty Sheriffs were customers. Husband and wife. When the suspects found their IDs they executed the male because he was a cop. The department made it policy after that.
Damn. If our badge or credentials is displayed you have to be armed. I dress down and inconspicuouly.
I agree. But the fact remains that there are possible circumstances where the shot was warranted and everyone on here saying it is not is speculating. That is exactly what a trial and investigation should reveal. Whether or not the second shot was justified. Also, I see a bit of assuming that the first shot was fatal. People survive gunshots to the chest quite a bit. We had an inmate in L.A. County Jail who was shot by LAPD 27 times in a running gun battle. He had so many bullets in him the Dr.s couldn’t get them all out.
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Police in America can, by SCOTUS ruling Tenn vs Garner, shoot a fleeing felon under certain circumstances. This fits that to a T. Not sure if Italy has a similar ruling. Maybe Giuseppe vs Guido ? Jk
I’ve seen guys shot over ten times survive. In Iraq insurgents were drugged up and surviving machine gun volleys. People really are uninformed on these issues.
I agree with you. It should go to trial to determine if it was or was not warranted.
Eh… a trail often times involves a sympathetic jury of uninformed types. The prosecution will undoubtedly look for sympathy due to the “kid’s” age and his being shot in the back of the head. Not sure how it works in Italy but I’d rather face a judge here than a jury.
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Laughed harder than I should have.
Also, no such rules here. Fleeing is “always allowed.” (Doesn’t mean a cop won’t try and prevent it, but they can’t kill you to prevent you from fleeing)