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[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:
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$15 an hour? Okay, let’s crunch some numbers.
McDonalds made 5.5 BILLION dollars profit last year. With that, they can afford to give their employees a raise of:
$5,500,000,000/1,800,000 employees=$3,055/employee-year
$3,500/employee/2080 hr/year = $1.47/hr per employee.
Nowhere near the 2x raise they’re asking for, and that’s assuming McDonalds is willing to drain the entirety of their profit to give their employees raises.
It’s worth mentioning that almost nobody works 40 hours a week as a McDonalds employee and this excludes much of upper management pay and payment to their workers in other countries. I’d factor these in too, but it’s already clear that McDonalds simply doesn’t have the profit margins to double the pay of their employees, even if they’re willing to make ZERO PROFIT.
You can always argue that McDonalds could simply raise the prices of their food in order to pay their employees more, but you’d be a fucking idiot. If Mcdonalds could make more money by charging more, they already would be. If you charge more, people buy less, you make less money, people lose their jobs.
Of course, if all the fast-food places raised their prices it could work (depending on the inelasticity of demand for fast-food, and how one defines “fast food”), but that would require collusion and extensive legislation establishing enough barriers to entry in order to ensure no new firms hit the market looking to undercut our new burger-cartel.
That’s the trade off; double minimum wage for a fast-food oligopoly.
So, which weighs heavier to the leftist; improving the living standards of unskilled labourers, or fighting crony capitalism?
Problem?
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Maybe they would need to do away with the crew at night , the only reason they can afford it is cheap labor . Maybe they do not deserve to be in business . Maybe Ma and Pa could afford to run their burger stand and sell real food and hire people that can live on their wages .
Perfect plan ? no but it is better than the Corporate Fascist program we are presently running
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Maybe ma and pa could take down Mcdicks.
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They have us tricked into thinking the node of business is the only way we can go and if it wasn’t for them , no one would fill their shoes .
With out one super Walmart there would probably be 3 grocery stores , Every McDicks propbably 1/2 to 3/4 ma and pa burger joint . I would throw most other mega sized corp chain in with McDick and Walmart .I am surprised you actually see we are far from a free market 
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How much growth are ma and pa allowed to have before you start outing them as greedy corporate scum?[/quote]
I would think every small business owner would be aspiring to that. [/quote]
The way to start is to bribe our politicians via campaign contributions . They can fix anything from contracts to environmental regulations to tax rates , AMAZING
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Unions and the Democratic Party. Pitt you actually hit the nail on the head with that one.
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The giant elephant in the room here is that the republicans do the same shit. Why do they do it? Because our government has too much power.
The problem with statists is they think giving the government more power is the solution. Or worse yet a “labor union” which is no different than those evil corporations in regard to the government.
There is no logical way to reconcile this contradictory situation, so they either leave statist ideology, remain ignorant of it, or pretend.
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I agree with you CB. I was just trying to make Pittbull rethink his talking points.