Obviously this guy has some medical issues. I’m not making fun of him, I just want to know at what point do you say I have a problem. I’m not skinny. In fact I could loose 30 or 40 pounds. Do you try to do something about your weight when you can no longer get up? When you are pushing the 1 ton mark? I know it starts gradually. Pants are alittle too tight, I can’t tie my shoes. Thats a far cry from I can’t get through the door, or I cant find clothes that fit any more. Where are the guys friends and family? How about an intervention?
You know I think that ultimately mental issues are involved, and this self destructive behaviour has a lot of sadness behind it.
I have alot of various thoughts on this issue but right now after seeing that picyure I am thinking of one of my best friends who is probably about 400 lbs. We have had many talks about his weight and he is the only obese person I have ever met that has never made an excuse for his weight he specifically will tell you “I am fat because of the things I eat and my lack of activity!”
I also realize that when I see him because he is such a great person truly a decent man I don’t readily see the big Fat Guy I just see my friend.
And right now he is experiancing a lot of not so good times in his life and is depressed. And that scares me as I do not want to lose my friend but I cannot make him want to begin.
I have tried and I will continue to do so but he needs to want to on his own.
If it doesn’t happen soon I will bury my Friend and then I’m going to finally feel the depression he does.
I don’t have the answer the answer is in the heart and mind of each obese person.
my problem with this is that we are allowed to rag on smokers because they choose to smoke, but god forbid someone should tell that guy to put down the tub of crisco. my best friend got up to 330lbs and realized one day that he would eventually die from obesity. he’s down to a lean 220 now, and if anything, he’s in the gym too much.
[quote]invictaWW wrote:
my problem with this is that we are allowed to rag on smokers because they choose to smoke, but god forbid someone should tell that guy to put down the tub of crisco. my best friend got up to 330lbs and realized one day that he would eventually die from obesity. he’s down to a lean 220 now, and if anything, he’s in the gym too much.[/quote]
I think most people do rag on fatties, both here and in real life. Dont let the existence of those ridiculous “fat acceptance” groups fool you - if being fat were accepted, there would be a need for fat people to shout about it from rooftops (but only if the elevator goes all the way up there.)
On the other hand, I have to believe that there is more at issue here than a simple combination of a lack of willpower, laziness and mental issues. I just cant believe that someone can get to TWELVE HUNDRED POUNDS from one too many ding dongs. There’s got to be a legitimate medical issue in combination with all those things.
As for them simply not noticing maybe their mindset has something to do with it…maybe they just dont see themselves puttin ont the weight
and yes friends that are ‘too nice’ really dont help in the long run…I mean for the love of god if you want to help your friend just point out to them that maybe they should lose a bit of weight and some of the benefits
I recently read in the news paper one day on how hospitals are having to make fat people beds and whatnot and one lady was quoted as saying something along the lines of the following
“I didn’t realize I had a problem until when I was on the delivery room table it tipped forward”
To the OP- 1 ton is 2000 lbs. 1200 lbs is not “pushing” the 1-ton mark, it’s just past halfway.
There are no excuses imaginable for why someone would get this big. You see the guys who weigh 700-800 lbs that can barely walk. So how do you go from 800 to 1200 if you can barely walk. Someone has to bring them food. Someone has to bathe them. Those people who assist them should be found guilty of neglect or at least assisted suicide, because that’s what they are doing.
[quote]Bodyguard wrote:
You know I think that ultimately mental issues are involved, and this self destructive behaviour has a lot of sadness behind it.
I have alot of various thoughts on this issue but right now after seeing that picyure I am thinking of one of my best friends who is probably about 400 lbs. We have had many talks about his weight and he is the only obese person I have ever met that has never made an excuse for his weight he specifically will tell you “I am fat because of the things I eat and my lack of activity!”
I also realize that when I see him because he is such a great person truly a decent man I don’t readily see the big Fat Guy I just see my friend.
And right now he is experiancing a lot of not so good times in his life and is depressed. And that scares me as I do not want to lose my friend but I cannot make him want to begin.
I have tried and I will continue to do so but he needs to want to on his own.
If it doesn’t happen soon I will bury my Friend and then I’m going to finally feel the depression he does.
I don’t have the answer the answer is in the heart and mind of each obese person.
I’m going to call my friend.[/quote]
My brother in law is about as big as your friend and it scares me to death that he is going to leave my sister to be a young widow with 3 kids. He is a very stubborn person and doesn’t seem to want to accept the help that I have offered him. I have asked him if he wanted to start walking, or if I could come up with a nutrition plan for him. But he just says he knows what he needs to do and he’s going to start doing it. Yet, he just sits there and does nuthin’. It is a very frustrating thing to watch. I love the guy but i’m pissed at him at the same time. I’m scared it’s going to take a heart attack before he really realizes that he needs to do something. And then it might be too late. He’s only 33 for gosh sakes.
So, how do you help someone who doesn’t want to help themselves. What can I do? Anyone got any ideas?
[quote]Irish Daza wrote:
He’s been bed bound for 5yrs and can’t fit through the door? How the hell is he getting all those calories? Some bastard is feeding them to him.
Get them to stop and save the air fare to Rome![/quote]
Great Point. A lot of enabling involved with this.
The people bringing this man food need to face justice. That is total bullshit. Assisted-suicide is absolutely right. All those We’re Fat & We’re Happy groups really get on my damn nerves. I bet their hearts and their joints aren’t very happy. Neither are the people sitting next to them on a plane, or the ones behind them in line at a buffet.
Funny, I was just thinking about this the other day, but stopped (for my own health) when my blood began to boil.
I’m with the rest of you guys on this one, I just don’t understand how in the hell they can get this fat if they can’t get the food themselves, not to mention that they probably can’t shit it all out without someone helping them to the can!
Who takes care of these people? What are they doing to them? Why are they doing it?
Funny, I was just thinking about this the other day, but stopped (for my own health) when my blood began to boil.
I’m with the rest of you guys on this one, I just don’t understand how in the hell they can get this fat if they can’t get the food themselves, not to mention that they probably can’t shit it all out without someone helping them to the can!
Who takes care of these people? What are they doing to them? Why are they doing it?
Behind every really really big person, there is a group of smaller fatties helping the person to get bigger everyday.
haha…I am joking to some extent, but it is true in many cases. A person’s weight problem could be result from millions of different issues, and it is really difficult to just pinpoint to one simple aspect of the person’s life. I am speaking from experience because I weighted over 300 lbs just two years ago. Point is it is not really necessary to do a complete psychological breakdown of WHY the personis so big, the really important thing is how to get the person to do something about it. When I first started the whole exercise stuff, my brother didn’t even bother to explain to me the reasons behind all these seemingly pointless moving of heavy things. He just made me do it, and kept on making me do it. It’s been two years since and I would thank him for the rest of my life to give me a second chance in life.
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So, how do you help someone who doesn’t want to help themselves. What can I do? Anyone got any ideas? [/quote]
Food for thought: How much life insurance would this guy need to support his kids clear through college were he to drop dead tomorrow?
Knowing how much more premiums are for the obese, I doubt that most any person could afford the required policy. I would imagine that it costs a hell of a lot less per month to pay a personal trainer and get some of those pre-made meals delivered every day or buy the frozen diet meals.
The only person that I personally know who has gone from obese to near normal in body composition did so because her doctor told her that she would not carry a pregnancy to term without loosing a couple hundred pounds. I think it takes something that is just that important to a person to make such significant life changes. If this fellow has any daughters I don’t doubt that he would like to be around to give them away at their wedding.
