12-Week Primo/Test E Cycle Log

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06 February 2015
Friday
230 mg Primo

Snatch Grip High Pull from Hang - 155 x 3, 3, 3, 3, 3;
Deadlift - 200 x 5, 240 x 3, 280 x 1, 300 x 14;
BBB Front Squat - 155 x 10, 10, 10, 10, 10;
Leg Press - 500 x 10, 10, 10;
Toe Press - 410 x 12, 12, 12;

Deadlift weight is still light (compared to where I was), but seems a little heavier than it should. Got 14 reps on the final set, so next week the training max is going up 20 pounds (5# per rep over prescription, 4 reps over).

Think I’m getting some back pumps from this stuff, I was hoping I wouldn’t. Got 'em in the past with different things, really suck.

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07 February 2015
Saturday

1A. Pullup - BW x 10 / 35 x 5, 45 x 3, 50 x 1, 55 x 10;
1B. Military Press - 65 x 10 / 75 x 5, 95 x 3, 110 x 1, 115 x 10;
BBB Bench - (Incline DB Bench instead) - 60 x 10, 10, 10, 10, 10;
2A. Neutral Grip Pullup - BW x 8, 8, 8, 8;
2B. Lateral Raise - 30 x 8, 8, 8, 8;
Cobra - 40 x 10, 10, 10;

Got some serious burning in the shoulders today, haven’t had that in a long time. Didn’t think I would get the full 10 reps with 55 for pullups, but I managed to gut it out. No TM increase next week for these two, but still made the prescription.

Added cobras back in, used to do them religiously but I dropped them a couple years ago. If you’re not familiar with those, imagine a cable crossover for your back. Instead of grabbing the cable on the same side, you criss-cross the cable handles in front of you, and then pull them outward and slightly down with a good squeeze at the finished position. Hits all the little muscles in the upper back.

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08 February 2015
Sunday
230mg Primo
125mg Test E

Bodyweight - 219

Treadmill Incline Walk - 8 incline, 2.8mph - 30:00

Instead of taking a full day off, I decided to do another day of cardio. My job is very sedentary, and I have been finding it harder to stay as lean as I was while doing this. So I am going to add in some extra stuff (without getting too intense) in order to create more activity. This may include some evening cardio after dinner, since I literally have nothing else to do.

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Week 4
Juggernaut 2.0
5 Wave - Accumulation

09 February 2015
Monday

Front Squat - 135 x 10, 185 x 5 / 230 x 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5;
BBB Deadlift - 210 x 10, 10, 10, 10, 10;
Reverse Crunch - 14# med ball x 12, 12, 12;
A. Leg Extension - 120 x 20, 20, 20;
B. Seated Calf - 90 x 10, 10, 10;

I have been supersetting the reverse crunches with high pulls for explosiveness and trap work, but after doing the deadlifts my back was pumped and angry. Definitely getting the back pumps on this, didn’t expect that. More on that later. After this issue, I will try doing the pulls next week before the BBB Deadlifts, and see if that helps me get a little more done.

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10 February 2015
Tuesday
230mg Primo

1A. Band Pull-Apart - 20, 20; Motocross Row - 180 x 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5;
1B. Bench - 135 x 10, 185 x 5 / 215 x 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5;
BBB Military Press - 75 x 10, 10, 10, 10, 10;
2A. DB Row - 70 x 15, 15, 15;
2B. Incline DB Bench - 55 x 8, 8, 8, 8;

EDIT: After dinner, I hopped on the treadmill and did thirty minutes walking. 10 incline at 2.5mph. Nothing intense, just increasing my activity a bit since my job is very non-physical. END EDIT.

Yes, the second superset is uneven, I actually did it that way on purpose. During my tren/test/mast short cycles, I actually felt like my lats were getting too big and thick (I know, white guy problems, right?). On one of the short cycles (second or third, I forget), I actually got to a size where I felt - for lack of a better description - too big, basically all over. Cardio wasn’t suffering anymore than normal, I just felt…bulky. During the PCT and brief off time (I was doing 2 on/5 off), I dropped about half of what I had gained during the cycle. The next cycle I gained close to 10 pounds more, ending up heavier than I had during the previous cycle…but for some reason, there was no ‘too big’ feeling. Everything seemed to fit, as it were. Anyway, my point being, partially because I do a full lat workout on two separate days (vertical pull and horizontal pull), they seem to respond really well and grow when I am on. So I dropped the last set of rows as a sort of preventative. I may do the full 4 sets next week, just because. During my short cycles I was rotating injections through VG, delts, and lats, so that may have played into that effect a little, who knows.

About Primo - I really didn’t know what to expect on this cycle, since I have had issues finding good descriptions from people who had used it. Not surprising, given it’s high cost and ‘mild’ reputation. So here are some things I have learned so far about primo.

Primo does not fit well through narrow pins. I had heard primo has a higher molecular weight, which from what I have heard contributes to the PIP and soreness. Can’t really speak to that, but I can say it is a pain in the ass pushing it through a slin pin. Why was I doing this? I’ve finished a few vials already, and I’m looking at a decent amount of remnants in each one and was trying to get them out. I figured a slin pin would be easier to use - just barely stick it through and suck out all that goodness. It pulled it with no issue, but for some reason it didn’t want to come back out. Actually bent the plunger stick (it is only plastic) I was pushing so hard. Ended up losing a little (about the 5 mark on a slin pin, so .05cc?) when it got that point and just wouldn’t budge. I’ve been injecting with 27g needles, since I am almost out of 22g and 23g and those work better for drawing. 27g takes a little work, but if you warm up the syringe before sticking (I prep my injections the night before) it seems to go through a little better. If I do another run of primo, I will stay with 25 or larger pins (assuming I remember any of this).

Also, as I mentioned above, primo does cause some PIP and soreness. Not too bad, but it is there and it seems to be site dependent to some extent. I have been sticking with VG for these (aside from a few thigh shots at the very beginning, and some 0.5cc Test E injects in the delts and lats early on before I started backfilling and combining), and have had some sore thighs/buttocks just about every inject, except today. I injected maybe half an inch farther forward than normal and not only did I barely feel the stick, I’ve had almost zero soreness today. Usually it will be fairly sore for the day of the stick, almost gone the next day, and then completely gone the third day, which is when I stick on the opposite side. Today’s has been almost completely pain free.

Aside from those two tidbits, the only other thing I can say is I feel basically normal. I’ve had some idiotic conflicts with a guy I work with and could feel myself getting spun up more and faster than normal, but nothing uncontrollable. Feel a bit better in the gym, but nothing crazy. I’m only using 250mg Test E per week, so my test levels really aren’t elevated much at all (I wouldn’t think). So far, it’s just been a nice, smooth ride to Gainsville.

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11 February 2015
Wednesday

1A. Dip - BW x 10, 70 x 8, 8, 8, 8;
1B. Screw Curl - 45 x 10, 10, 10, 10;
2A. Incline Curl - 35 x 8, 8, 8;
2B. 1 Arm Pressdown - 60 x 10, 10, 10;
3A. Hammer Curl - 35 x 8, 8, 10;
3B. Cable Twist - 90 x 12, 12, 12;

PM
Incline Walk - 2.5mph @ 10 inc - 30:00

Arms pumped up like crazy today, to the point they were rock hard and almost painful. Dips were pretty easy at 70, should have gone up in weight again.

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12 February 2015
Thursday
230mg Primo
125mg Test E

Modified Hurricane Sprints - :30/:30 - 10/11/12mph - Set 1 - 5 incline, Set 2 - 6 incline, Set 3 - 7 incline - Total HR recovery between rounds. Did 3 rounds of this, followed by 20:00 incline walk: 10 incline @ 2.5mph

I’m trying to enroll in college classes for the summer after I get home from this contract, and have been jumping through hoops. Apparently in the state of Tennessee (probably everywhere), if I am enrolling as a full time student I have to show proof of MMR and varicella (chickenpox) immunity. This can be in the form of vaccination records from your family doctor, or you can have the titers drawn to show the presence of the antibodies. I’ve been trying to find the records, but here’s the issue:

I was born in Indiana, lived there 3-4 years, then moved to Georgia where I lived until I was 15, when we moved to Florida. Lived there till I graduated and joined the Navy, which I just retired from last fall. So I am calling multiple states and counties trying to find the proof I need, until my mother finally tells me I had measles as a small child, so I never got the initial, just the booster when I was 13 (which is the only one I can prove).

So anyway, last night I went to a local doc-in-a-box (I’m in Hawaii) so they could put in a lab order for the blood draws. Then this morning after getting up and eating breakfast (during the time I usually go back to bed for a couple hours before hitting the gym), I drove all over the damn place looking for the lab. GPS said it was in one place, but it was actually several blocks away form there which I finally figured out after them. So by the time I got the blood drawn and got back to the ship, I just wanted to get a nap in before I had to get ready for work.

All this means that I didn’t do the above conditioning workout until after dinner, an hour or two before I went to bed. Don’t know if it was because I was doing it at an unusual hour (for me) or due to some weight gain, but the last sprint on the last round was a killer. My running form was falling apart the last few seconds, but I got there. Then I laid on the floor for a few seconds before hopping back on the treadmill for the incline walking portion. A little suckage is a good thing sometimes.

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On a side note, I have been thinking about my post-cycle plans. I’ve heard a bit about the blast-and-cruise lifestyle, and I thinking of staying on the test once I finish the 12 weeks of primo. Given all the environmental factors (diet, physical activity, stress, etc) that can cause your test levels to fluctuate up and down - not to mention my age (38) - I think keeping my levels stable artificially is a better course of action than just going with the flow.

I order my stuff from overseas, so there is the possibility of losing money via seizure, not to mention the possibility of a sting of some sort. But test e from my source (well-respected UGL through a supplier with a great reputation) is pretty cheap, so if I stay at 250mg per week it comes out to something less than $5 per week for the juice. Obviously that climbs a bit when you add in the shipping and WU costs, as well as ancillaries such as AI’s and syringes/pins. But still very affordable, and probably under $10/week.

Planning on reading up on it a bit more, but I think I’m almost sold already. When I go back to the doc-in-a-box for my lab results (I need the doc to transcribe it to a TN state form anyway), I may talk to them about requesting a free & total test panel, as well as estradiol just to get an indicator of where I am.

Any input on B&C from experienced users is welcome.

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13 February 2015
Friday

Snatch Grip High Pull from the Hang - 155 x 3, 3, 3, 3, 3;
Deadlift - 185 x 5, 225 x 5 / 295 x 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5;
BBB Front Squat - 165 x 10, 10, 10, 10, 10;
A. Leg Press - 500 x 10, 10, 10;
B. Toe Press - 410 x 12, 12, 12;

PM - Incline Walk - 2.5mph @ 10 incline - 35:00

So not only am I getting the back pumps, now my legs are pumping up somewhat as well. Kind of odd for me, as I’ve never felt that before. Not feeling it while lifting so much as I am during the incline walking. Didn’t feel it too bad tonight, but every night I’ve done it so far I get off the mill and my legs and hips feel thick and stiff as f%#k. Takes a little work to get some stretching done. And this is only the end of week 4. Can’t wait to see how this little gem progresses.

The leg press in our gym is a little piece of junk. Five plates on each side and that’s all it will hold. To get the extra 50 to equal 500 (I’m not counting the weight of the sled since I have no idea what it weighs), I am stacking a couple 25 plates on top of the foot plate - which is also rather narrow, so I can’t get a very wide stance on it. The best I can do is to put my feet at the upper corners, with my toes hanging over and slightly turned out. But we make do with what we have available.

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14 February 2015
Saturday
230mg Primo

1A. Pullup - BW x 10, 30 x 5, 40 x 5 / 52.5 x 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5;
1B. Military Press - 65 x 10, 75 x 5, 95 x 5 / 110 x 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5;
BBB Bench - 155 x 10, 10, 10, 10, 10;
2A. Neutral Grip Pullup - BW x 8, 8, 8, 8;
2B. Lateral Raise - 30 x 10, 10, 10, 10;
Ab Rollout - 10, 10, 8;

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I was feeling pretty lazy on Sunday, so I just took it as an off day. Weighed in at 220 Sunday morning.

Week 5
Juggernaut 2.0
5 Wave - Intensification Week

16 February 2015
Monday
230mg Primo
125mg Test E
12.5mg Aromasin

Front Squat - 135 x 10, 185 x 5 / 215 x 2, 240 x 2, 255 x 5, 5, 5, 5;
1A. Snatch Grip High Pull from Pins - 170 x 3, 3, 3, 3, 3;
1B. Reverse Crunch - 14# x 12, 12, 12;
BBB Deadlift - 210 x 10, 10, 10, 10, 10;
2A. Leg Extension - 130 x 20, 20, 20;
2B. Seated Calf - 90 x 10, 10, 10;

Got going on front squats, and while I was ramping up to 255, my right knee started giving me some pain - nothing popped or anything like that, it just started to hurt midway through the sets. I started trying to work it out (flexing and extending with no load) between sets, and that seemed to help - at least to the extent that it wouldn’t hurt until the last rep or two of a set. After front squats were done, it gave me no more issues for the rest of the session, not even on leg extensions.

Not sure why, but I didn’t have much issue with the back pumps today.

And since weight gain has been slowing down, I added an additional 4-500 calories in starting today. I’ve gained about 11 pounds so far, as of Sunday morning, and my midsection seems to have leaned out slightly and then stayed the same (aside form typical fluctuations, of course). I’m just starting week five, so the jury is still out on the primo. Happy so far - delts are nice and rounded again, traps have popped out, arms are bigger and thicker, pecs and lats are filling out nicely as well. Can’t wait to see what the next 8 weeks has to bring.

And FYI, apparently if you hit the escape button after typing out an entire post, it erases the whole thing. Found that out by accident, while moving the keyboard. That made me really happy.

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17 February 2015
Tuesday

1A. Band Pull Apart - 20, 20; Motocross Row - 180 x 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6;
1B. Bench - 135 x 10, 185 x 5 / 200 x 2, 220 x 2, 235 x 5, 5, 5, 7;
BBB Military Press - 75 x 10, 10, 10, 10, 10;
2A. DB Row - 70 x 15, 15, 15, 15;
2B. Incline DB Bench - 55 x 10, 10, 10, 10;

PM - Incline Walk - 2.5 mph @ 10 incline - 30:00

Knee felt better today, but it felt a little sore occasionally. Guess I’ll just play it by ear for the most part, but I really don’t want to skip any lower body work. Figures something like this would pop up during a (rather expensive) cycle. Skipped the incline walk last night because of it, but I tried it out tonight to see how it felt. No issues, so we’ll see what happens.

Shoulders felt odd again after finishing the session - slight ache, almost burning sensation deep in the front and back of the joint. Really hard to explain. It went away fairly quickly, but the best I could describe it is somewhere between lactic acid, and that over-stretched feeling you get when a muscle gets really pumped.

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18 February 2015
Wednesday
230mg Primo

1A. Dip - BW x 10 / 80 x 8, 90 x 8, 8, 8;
1B. Screw Curl - 45 x 12, 12, 10, 10;
2A. Incline Curl - 35 x 9, 9, 9;
2B. 1 Arm Pressdown - 60 x 10, 10, 10;
3A. Hammer Curl - 35 x 10, 10, 10;
3B. Cable Twist - 90 x 10, 10, 10;

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19 February 2015
Thursday

Row Intervals - 30/30 - 10 rounds
Incline Walk - 2.5mph @ 10 incline - 30:00

The knee is feeling better, but I didn’t want to take the chance of the impact flaring it up again, so I did rowing intervals instead. Not quite as intense, but still decent.

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20 February 2015
Friday
230mg Primo
125mg Test E
12.5mg aromasin

Snatch Grip High Pull from the Hang - 155 x 3, 3, 3, 3, 3;
Deadlift - 185 x 5, 225 x 5 / 275 x 2, 305 x 2, 325 x 5, 5, 5, 7;
BBB Front Squat - 165 x 10, 10, 10, 10, 10;
A. Leg Press - 550 x 10, 10, 10;
B. Toe Press - 450 x 10, 10, 10;

Back pumps didn’t kick in today, at least not very much (felt a slight tightness, but nothing like I usually get). The knee still feels good, even after the 5 x 10 of front squats. Hopefully it continues like this.

Like I said before, our leg press machine is rather narrow and doesn’t have a lot of room on the pegs for plates - 5 per side and it’s full. Couple of the guys were laughing because after I filled the pegs, I was stacking 25’s on the shoulder pads (it’s convertible from leg press to hack squat) to get the weight I wanted to use.

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21 February 2015
Saturday

1A. Pullup - BW x 10, 30 x 5, 40 x 5 / 50 x 2, 55 x 2, 60 x 5, 5, 5, 6;
1B. Military Press - X, 65 x 10, 85 x 5 / 100 x 2, 110 x 2, 120 x 5, 5, 5, 5;
BBB Bench - 155 x 10, 10, 10, 10, 10;
2A. Neutral Grip Pullup - BW x 8, 8, 8, 8;
2B. Lateral Raise - 30 x 8*, 10, 10, 10;

Decent day, but I only managed to get 1 extra rep on the last set of pullups, and then couldn’t get more than 5 on the last set of military press (and it was a bit of a grinder). Bench felt light through all five sets, and the same with the neutral grip pullups at the end.

Only did 8 reps on the first set of laterals because I tried doing them leaning away from a post I was holding onto. Right arm felt fine, but left shoulder was popping every time I went up and down, so I went back to the standard way of doing them. That shoulder stayed a little sore after I was done, but went away before too long.

I know I’m not the first to notice it, but the natural fluctuations of the body are kind of annoying. A couple days ago, I was looking nice and lean in the mirror, and then this morning I looked pretty smooth. Tomorrow is weigh-in day, and I may take another pic. I have a few from earlier in the cycle, but I don’t remember how long it’s been since I did one. Right at the halfway point, and it sucks having little to no control over what I eat.

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Week 6
Juggernaut 2.0
5 Wave - Realization Week

Weighed in at 220 on 22 February, so weight gains have leveled out even with (slightly) increased calories and macros. This is fine, if I can begin a body comp shift and stay at/around this weight (which was my main goal anyway, and reason fro using primo).

23 February 2015
Monday

Front Squat - 135 x 10 / 165 x 5, 200 x 3, 230 x 2, 245 x 1, 265 x 1, 280 x 8;
1A. Snatch Grip High Pull from Pins - 175 x 3, 3, 3, 3, 3;
1B. Reverse Crunch - 14# x 12, 12, 12;
BBB Dead - 210 x 10, 10, 10, 10, 10;
2A. Leg Extension - 130 x 20, 20, 20;
2B. Seated Calf - 90 x 10, 10, 10;

PM - Incline Walk - 2.5mph @ 10 incline - 30:00

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24 February 2015
Tuesday
230mg Primo
125mg Test E
12.5mg aromasin

1A. Band Pull Apart - 20, 20; Motocross Row - 180 x 8, 8, 8, 8, 8;
1B. Bench - 135 x 10 / 155 x 5, 185 x 3, 215 x 2, 230 x 1, 245 x 1, 260 x 6;
BBB Military Press - 80 x 10, 10, 10, 10, 10;
2A. DB Row - 70 x 15, 15, 15, 15;
2B. DB Incline Bench - 55 x 12, 12, 12, 12;

Bear Complex - 135# - 20:00 - 28 reps

Nothing real special today, I only got 1 rep over prescription on bench, but that made for 260 x 6 so not too bad. And I move weight up next week when I start the new wave (only 2.5, but still - progress).

Got a wild hair up my ass and decided to do the Bear Complex, something I haven’t done in years. If you’ve never heard of the Bear, it’s a decent little complex. Load a barbell (I’ve always used 135, haven’t ever done it consistent enough to try and increase the load) on the floor. The complex is: power clean - into front squat - into push press - lower the bar behind the neck - back squat - push press back to front and put the bar down. That’s one rep. You can program this a million ways - go for a total number of reps, reps and rounds, whatever. I’ve always used (back when I did it fairly often) Staley’s density training model - set a timer for 20:00 and get as many reps as you can. Next time you do it, try to get more reps.

I kept dropping the bar a little high on my neck early on, so I started slowing down the eccentric to make sure I got it behind my neck and onto my traps. This caused a decent amount of soreness to the outer triceps head which I didn’t expect. Didn’t seem to hinder arms day the following day, and it went away within a day or two so who knows if it actually did anything growth wise.

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25 February 2015
Wednesday

1A. Dip - BW x 10, 90 x 8, 8, 8, 8;
1B. Screw Curl - 45 x 12, 12, 10, 10;
2A. Incline Curl - 35 x 9, 9, 9;
2B. 1 Arm Pressdown - 60 x 10, 10, 10;
3A. Hammer Curl - 35 x 10, 10, 10;
3B. Cable Twist - 100 x 10, 10, 10;

PM - Incline Walk - 10 incline - 2.8mph 15:00, 2.5mph 15:00

Kept the same weight for dips, just to make sure the sore tris from the day before didn’t affect anything. Seemed to slow me down just a tad, but still powered through with no problems.

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Wow. Got way behind. I’ll catch up later when I can grab my log book from my room.