No, I don’t
I must add, I don’t know any legit docs that run bloods the day after injection. You tested 8.82 at your peak and 7.95 at your trough. Seems a little strange to me.
I am on self administration. I just wanted to see what my peak is and my through to have picture of E2.
The funny thing is peak E2 is less than through E2
What’s your weight?
Any supplements or medications you are taking?
Stop obsessing about E2. Stop measuring it.
Testosterone needs to peak first, then aromatizes, then the Estradiol is produced. So, yes, there is a delay between them.
The ONLY reason I still test E2 from time to time is to show people how high mine is so they can stop blaming everything on E2.
None of the physicians I deal with measure it anymore. They say, ‘Why measure something that you’re not going to do anything about? We only measure if we suspect a deficiency just like the other things we measure if we suspect a deficiency. We don’t measure everything just to measure everything.’
My advice to you is do more frequent injections given your low SHBG.
Doesn’t E2 peak AFTER testosterone peaks? Correct me if I’m wrong, but I was told that test peaks somewhere around 24 hours post injection, and E2 peaks approximately 36-48 hours post injection.
Can you get German Test or maybe Turkish Test? Otherwise bump up your test and see if you get over the hump. Moonface is a steroid side effect for some. Maybe the low dose is just a tease. Bump it up first and then down if the experiment doesnt work. We all have to experiment
I inject 50mg once a week subQ. I have TE dosed at 250mg/ml so it’s .2 once a week.
@dbossa I don’t care about numbers I just try to find a way to get rid of the bloat. That’s why I do the E2 test.
@middleages I tried different protocols. I started with 250 mg. Too much E2 sides. Switched to 150 weekly and felt better but still high estrogen like bloat, heavy sweating and so on.
Then I switched to 100 e3,5 days and I felt quite good. Gave this protocol 1 month and switches to 50 mg . But that seems defo to less. So I will switch back to 50 mg e3,5 days. Maybe I have to give it more time to stabilize and then do a test.
I feel exactly when my E2 is too high. My pulse jumps 20 points high. That’s when I know it’s too high. But lot of people told me here to wait at least 8 weeks and give a new protocol time to dial in
As long as you call the issues E2 sides and focus on that number, you will not solve your problem.
Every single issue you have is being blamed on estrogen. This is where you’re going wrong.
Forget the estrogen and solve the rest.
By solving the rest you mean find a dosage that makes me feel best?
The ONLY thing you should be focusing on is how much to take a week and how often to take it. You have low SHBG so there is a very good chance you need to do more frequent injections. I’d probably suggest doing small daily shots for awhile to get yourself stabilized. Then you can start playing with weekly dose, going up or down, and documenting where you feel you felt better until you get to your ideal spot. Once you’ve achieved that, and have been feeling good and stable for awhile, you can try dropping down to EOD shots to see if you feel just as good.
This is what I would do given the situation.
Watch this video I did and it should help:
@anon18050987 would love for you to watch this video above and tell me if you hear anything unreasonable in there.
This is another one I did where I went even more in depth on weekly dose and frequency:
Ok thanks
Bingo.
You need to give your body time to stabilize after a change.
And this is me this summer, running 500test + some dbol:
I currently dead 330kg.
Anyway, 10mg test E works very very well for me, puts me at around 600ng/dl. Im low SHBG around 8-14.
Prolactin seem to increase my bloat and decrease my libido, prolactin is naturally high for whatever reason, I solve it with 300mg vitamin b6 ED, split in 3.
I have a big penor too.
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Someone told me you had been trying to get in touch with me over PM or whatever @dbossa to remove some shit, I havent received any PM on here, I dont even know if there is such a function. Tell me what you need.
OnTopic:
I do great on 10mg a day, Ive also tried 8mg prop a day which gave me the best motivation and energy of any protocol so far, just as if it for some reason gives me great dopamine spikes every day when injecting.
Theres a large thread on another bodybuilding forum created by some old guy who used to be an IFBB pro, suggesting doing just that, 10mg a day, thread is like 120 pages long and got a shit ton of people who tried 10mg a day reporting they feel way better than they regular TRT protocol of 100-250mg a week or whatever they use to do.
I function better on low testosterone levels than high. My energy, libido, mood, positive outlook is 500% better on low dosage compared to high-dosage-TRT.
On testosterone cycles (500mg+) I feel tired, lethargic, zero libido, zero erection strenght, only positive thing is size and muscle strenght.
I easily get bloated from testosterone, level small dosages bloats me more in the face compared to my previous low-natty-self, unfortunately.
This was my body on 200ng/dl natural testosterone before doing test:
My strenght there:
180kg bench
280kg deadlift
230kg squat
Again, at 200ng/dl (266 to be exact).
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Those are some crazy ass numbers for being totally deficient in T! Congrats on finally feeling better.
Look through the threads posted here. There is one called Thank You @equel
Holy crap. You’re the embodiment for the refutation of the high dose pushers.