@dagill2 Awesome work on the PRs lately! Especially during caloric restriction. Have you read Dan John’s Attempts yet? I’m currently listening to the audiobook and enjoying it.
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Yet, you’re doing more effort than 90% (at least) of people in the world while being depressed and all…
You’re doing the exact right amount of effort you have to do, or can do right now for YOU, for your family, for your situation. Didn’t you do a PR recently? Never feel bad, you have no reasons not to!
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@jdm135 This is something I run into in all avenues of life, to be honest. I’m so far from “elite” in any area and its so, so easy to beat yourself up for that, especially in areas where you feel you’ve been given a natural advantage in life. But the reality is that most people are pretty shit at most things and, in turn, that makes me above average in almost every area, and that feels pretty good.
@Frank_C Always appreciate the honesty you bring to the table man. I, for one, think that thats exactly the right way to go about this. We aren’t professional athletes or dealing with health issues that require immediate intervention. We are allowed to take the foot off the pedal sometimes in order to focus on other things in life. If you try and focus on everything, you focus on nothing.
@Bagsy thanks, butbthe credit there mostly goes to Jim. I read Attempts a few months ago, yes. I liked it, from memory, but I couldn’t pick out anything particular that struck me as a gem because after reading his work for so long and watching the first 50 or so episodes of his podcast, I find they tend to blur into one. He has a pretty cohesive message and vision running through all of them, so much so that I find it hard to differentiate much between each of the individual works. I do remember “Attempts” being pretty heavy on Easy Strength variations though.
@aldebaran bang on mate, got it in one.
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Work for tonight:
20mins elliptical
Just a bit of petrol tank work.
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Honestly, for us normals, working twice as hard only seems to reap nominal returns. I have maximized effort plenty over the past many years, but that is sorta because I like to. Not sure it really has dramatically improved strength or aesthetics.
I.e work smarter not harder?
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I agree 100%
And to be honest, most of us go way beyond what’s actually necessary to achieve our goals because we know that while our actual goal is to stay healthy and capable for longer, we all still secretly want to look a better looking version of Pudz.
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On the subject of silly, non-productive training thats only done because the challenge presented itself, behold the worlds ugliest front squat, done 30-10-30 style. Admire how Bambi like i look as I try and remember how to do a basic movement, behold the confused look on my face as I try and remember to bend at the knee and the hip and count to 30, all at the same time. I am dumb. @pettersson @davemccright
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Dude way to answer the call and take the challenge! That looked extremely brutal! Those 30 second negatives are sneaky! Especially the second one, it honestly feels like death would be a viable alternative lol
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Impressive, man! I really appreciate your way of dealing with the benefit of a doubt - replying with heavy iron! This is how you gain respect in the HIT community - at least you shut me up with a vengeance! Cheers!
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@davemccright the tempo on the negatives just completely messes with my form. You can literally see me reminding myself how to bend the right joints at the right times. I think someone with more experience doing slow negatives would get a whole lot more out of it than me.
@pettersson I had no intention of shutting people up man, I just saw a challenge and went for it. That protocol would definitely take some getting used to, I think front squats was in at the deep end.
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Jesus and I thought 8 secs eccentric front squats were hard… You’re a beast:
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And yet you’re still stronger than me.
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I tried 30-10-30 w/ a 37lb DB goblet squat and got my ass kicked (almost literally 
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You’re clearly more coordinated than me.
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Well… looks like all those pistol squats aren’t for nothing 
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My pistol squats are so slow, they’re probably approaching a 30 second negative anyway.
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It’s for that reason that I think 30-10-30 is probably most ideal on machines, at least to start, but I appreciate the challenge of it with free weights! I think if you threw it in more often you would get your timing and motor pattern down!
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Not for long if you keep it like that!
I did some 30-10-30 workouts. Bulgarian Split Squats destroyed my quads…
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@davemccright I’m not pretending that was really in the true intent of 30-10-30, it was just a challenge that was thrown out. If I really wanted to use it as part of training, I’d do something where upper back wasn’t a limiting factor and where I could keep constant tension. And stop filming so I could use my phone to time. What would be your go-to movement for bigger quads with 30-10-30? Ideally that don’t involve balance or coordination.
@aldebaran got a long way to catch up with you mate. At least 10kg on front squat at last count, and thats probably where we’re closest.
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A leg Extension/leg Press superset requires very little coordination but supplies a super deep burn! I think the hack squat would also be suitable in place of leg Press. Those would allow you to focus a bit more in the contraction and a bit less on the movement itself
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