Why the dislike?
No dislike, just telling the truth, haha. They donāt do what they act like they do: turn regular bars into fat bars. Instead, you slap on a rubber handle that never quite fully closes around the bar and leaves a gap that is prone to rotating, and if you have bigger hands, your fingers inevitably end up, or it slides against your palm instead, and they always rotate on pull ups or chins. An axle fatbar is a jillion times better.
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Care to expand on this?
People can feel free to flame me, but, personally, I donāt think high pulls are such a wonderful exercise on their own.
I know CT states touts their impressiveness, but as a complete back builder, they seem lacking. Not to put words in his mouth, but my suspicion is that he recommends them because people LOVE the look of weightlifters, but donāt want to put in the years and years if technical work needed to get those big numbers to build a weightlifterās physique. Itās similar to gymnastics exercises; gymnasts have being doing those movements for years which is why they look like they do.
Power cleans or barbell rows are a more complete posterior-chain builder, which is why I think power cleans are in Morning Star in the first place.
Wide-grip ā almost snatch-width ā upright rows however, are an excellent det/trap/upper back builder, and I think those used in conjunction with Pendlay rows or power cleans would build a beastly back.
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Itās the skill factor of cleans or snatches. In my lowly opinion, the catch isnāt the money maker of the exercise. The pull is what builds/trains the power. For someone who struggles with the technicality of the clean, a high pull is a great alternative. The same goes for the muscle snatch.
Based on what I know about training and physiology, I know that a high pull shouldnāt be the best choice to build the yoke, but a clean or high pull always results in DOMS. I know thatās not an indicator of anything, but I take it as feedback from my body and it tells me the muscles that I want to grow have been damaged. I call that a win.
Iām planning to run these in my next block.
As Scott Steiner said āyou can never have enough backā
I donāt know, I use them on my dumbbells, and theyāre fine for that. I agree that they suck on an actual bar though.
Iāve never found a pair of dumbbells with the right handles for them. Either too narrow, so the grips compress when you squeeze them, or too thick and you deal with that gap issue.
Thereās a slight gap in mine, but it makes me have to squeeze the grips to hold them in place, which works my grip even more. It compensates for the fact that I only have 1 set of dumbbells and theyāre too light for me. So I guess itās a case of one crappy tool making another crappy tool a little less crappy?
Hah, very much possible. Iām all for making things suck more, but when FGs try to make it seem like they make things BETTER, it gets silly. Iād just as soon just make some fat handles with pipe.
Its not that I donāt understand the purpose of the movement. More that the movement just doesnāt feel ārightā yet. Maybe by the end of these cycles it will all suddenly click, weāll see.
How is the running going. When I did the couch to 5km it was literally that. Got up off the couch put me runners on and ran 2.5km turned around and ran home. Thought I was going die after one minute and held back vomit for most of the way home. Couldnāt walk properly for 3 days after !! Lol
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Heās faked an ankle sprain so that he doesnāt have to talk about it, and weāre all playing along mate.
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Claims he ātwisted his ankleā.
Runs around claiming heās āWolverineā and ādoesnāt get hurtā in a different log.
Well we gotcha now, motherfucker.
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@simo74 yeah, Iām going for the middle aged housewife approach. I have an app where the nice lady tells me when to run and when to stop running. Basically an interval style thing. It was such a good idea that @Cyrrex decided to copy me. In all seriousness, the fact that Iām doing a program designed for middle aged housewives has shown me just how bad I am at running so I will probably run in some form for most of the year. Its clearly a massive weakness.
@Cyrrex good of you to play along mate, it was better than my other plan of developing an allergy
I resent that. I donāt run around anywhere.
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Only when your dominat- I mean, ānice ladyā tells you too. Itās cool man, weāve all got our kinks.
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I did wonder why none of the other runners near me wore ballgags I assumed they were just amateurs.
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Would one of those hood things count as a mask? If so, youāre killing two birds with one stone 
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Honestly, I just felt that you needed something to aspire to. No thanks required, mate.
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A more accurate explanation is that @Frank_C had been going on about the running, and I had been mulling it over. But you had the program figured out, which I gladly copied.
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Its true. When I eventually reach your age, Iād like to be able to run like you.
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