For those of you folks that do well with strict nutrition but for short duration, maybe some interest in the “ABCDE” diet.
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Why on Earth would they intentionally overfeed women for a study? I wonder what the original purpose was…
TC’s approach looks more realistic. We’ve seen evidence that overeating one day tends to ramp up metabolism and result in a net fat loss, but that’s when you only overeat once - not for weeks.
I’m tempted to try something like this, but I fear that the overeating days will make the deficit days suck worse than usual. I also used to implement one cheat meal a week and that meal got so big that it took my body a week to recover. I know it wasn’t true weight gain, but my weight would finally get back to pre-cheat levels and then I’d do it again. That was a weight loss diet so I’d consider that a fail. It could also be that I just really enjoyed that cheat meal too much. 
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You sound like you’re in a similar boat as Dave Tate
Setting a time limit seemed to help in his case.
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I don’t know if I’ve ever gone that far LOL My go-to was 3/4 of a large hand tossed Meat Lovers pizza from Pizza Hut (bout 2340 cals) followed by a large chocolate chip cookie dough blizzard from Dairy Queen (1340 cals).
It took a week to purge the salt bloat.
Let’s face facts - if I give myself permission to eat at a surplus then I just eat bad foods that I always want but can’t have if I want to maintain/lose weight.
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With a barbell, yes. But as @dagill2 mentioned with a kettlebell you generally want to press first so you’re fresher — especially in your core. Kettlebell front squats are BRUTAL on your core, and when you press a kettlebell the centre of mass is waaay behind you as you approach lockout, which taxes your core again.
Also a traditional barbell clean motion (AKA “squat-clean”) with a kettlebell is awkward as hell. Leads to a lot of painful crashing of the kettlebell.
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With a barbell, yes. Not with double kettlebell. Or what @kdjohn said.
I am telling myself this will only be for a week. I secretly know that once the week is up, I might get more food but not loads more. I’m just lying to myself to get the result I want this week.
That’s a pretty interesting skim read. I’ll try and read it more thoroughly later.
I’m inclined to think that might happen to. I’ve definitely seen my body adapt to different eating habits.
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Work for this morning:
25 pull ups
5 jumps owed
W3D1 couch to 5k
25 pull ups
Notes:
- Definitely feeling this deficit. I was beyond hungry last night and I feel like I’ve gone 5 rounds with Mike Tyson this morning, everything is sore. Only 5 days to go.
- Running took another step up today, but wasn’t awful apart from the uphill one, which was. When I don’t push the pace and go downhill, I’m starting to feel like I could pretty much go forever now, which is a step in the right direction.
- Run looks slow on paper because all the pull ups, jumps etc. Has been included in the time. I was too lazy to stop and start my tracking app.
- Depending how emotional little lady is, may get a kb session in later.
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@T3hPwnisher ABCDE-diet: Interesting, makes me think of the the MATADOR-diet in reverse. Some Scott Abel cycle-diet vibes too.
I’m becoming increasingly apprehensive about telling anyone anything with regards to diet, and therefore writing this out results in some dissonance but I genuinely hope that it might make a positive difference for you.
In our recent interactions (@Frank_C) I remember making the observation, not sure if out loud, that your day-to-day diet wasn’t very varied. One thing I’ve come to understand from spending some time reading about eating disorders is that if one constrains their food choices either by convenience, mental anguish, or sheer happenstance too much if the body becomes deficient in something it’ll do what it can to meet those nutritional demands. This isn’t necessarily pertaining to calories, or macros*, but what is otherwise considered minutiae. Vitamins. Minerals.
Two other things that allegedly play a big role is adequate salt, hydration, and chewing. I’ve always felt more like a wolf than a human at a dinner table but these last few 6-8 weeks I’ve been spending a lot more time mindfully chewing and that combined with a vastly more varied diet than before has led to me reaching satiation at essentially every meal. Your mileage may vary.
With that said, I’d be surprised if the above behavioural changes are always adequate. I haven’t exactly been coy with how my relationship with food has become strained. That strained relationship doesn’t make it easier to tease apart when it is my relationship with the food, or the food itself, that is the issue. The disorder, the relationship, and the objective food item are all related but not necessarily causally.
And like, I don’t know what you avoid, but let’s just say there’s a person that would avoid a piece of bread and the Meat Lovers pizza. Being offered both causes them pause, and some anguish. Maybe, they’d benefit in life from not experiencing discomfort around the former but that doesn’t mean necessarily they have to have an equally relaxed attitude towards the latter if that inevitably causes a week long binge-eating which is then followed by a 9-16 week diet.
Not to cause offence to anyone that struggles with substance addiction, I’d like to relate the above to that. Abstaining from the pizza might be the same as abstaining from alcohol, while the bread doesn’t fit into this metaphor at all.
I don’t know if that makes sense. It’s a thought that derives from that the material I’ve been exposed to around eating disorders is steadfast that there can’t be any disallowed foods. But, I’m not certain that model applies equally well for everyone.
*macros: I think one macro where the body is more prone to cause toxic hunger is if it isn’t getting all the fats (different types) that it needs.
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Another thing I’ve given some thought, with food, especially “unhealthy” food is that as far as I know every society I can think of has a notion of comfort food. I rarely indulge in cravings, I don’t eat much in the way of processed food stuffs, so if I have persistent — rather than transient — cravings it might be time to consider “am I so unhappy/stressed that my body wants me to self-medicate here and that’s why I’m experiencing all these cravings?” And then, if such a moment of indulgence inevitably has the consequence of overeating consistently for some time that might tell me something about maybe it’d be worthwhile changing something more fundamentally around my life.
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I would say it’s not too varied but I may just be hard on myself. One thing is for certain - my carb sources are bread, tortillas, potatoes, rice, and veggies. I bought cauliflower rice this week and it seems like I good rice substitute. I made a “burrito bowl” with it.
I lack unsaturated fats. That’s an area that is tough for me to control. If I get some nuts then I overeat. I’ll grab a handful which is usually 1.5 servings because I have big hands. Unfortunately, I’ll grab another handful nearly every time I walk past them.
I don’t fall victim to the week long binge anymore, but I’ll eat lots of foods that I consider treats and they add up. I’ll have pizza and stop at three slices instead of 4-6. I’ll have a few cookies. I’ll enjoy the brick of Colby Jack cheese in the fridge. I’ll have pancakes for breakfast. I’ll eat half a bag of those tasty peanut butter filled pretzel nuggets.
I’ve finally managed to (mostly) control myself when eating the things that tempt me, but if I allow myself to intentionally eat a surplus then I shut off my guilt mechanism.
For me, eating a surplus allows me to eat those tasty calorie dense foods. I’ve never eaten more of the foods I eat while trying to lose a few pounds.
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Work for this arvo:
2min swing challenge a la @ChongLordUno: 74 reps.
Then 26 reps to round out the 100.
How the hell did you get 84 in that time dude, I was fucking motoring on this shit and was still 10 reps shy.
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Consider adding oil to the burrito bowl? Avocado oil in particular would compliment it well, and once it’s in you aren’t going to add more: it’s already built. Could, of course, just add legit avocado to it as well, but I know avocados can run into a similar issue as nuts.
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Fuck knows mate
I never counted at the time. I rewatched my IG and counted them from there
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Challenge has been set. I’m trying that again.
Love these but they’re so finicky. Not ripe, not ripe, not ripe, brown.
My wife recently brought up the avocado oil at Trader Joe’s. I think that would be a great addition.
It’s my go to oil for all things. Big fan of it. I’m about to buy some frozen avocado chunks from Costco myself to avoid the ripeness issue, although I don’t mind if it’s brown, so long as it’s not rancid.
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I have some frozen chunks here and it doesn’t cure the ripeness issue completely. Still get the occasional piece that’s solid as a rock. It might be totally different in a different part of the world with a different shop though.
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Work for tonight:
5 x 15 “hardstyle” kb swings (20kg)
I don’t normally specify what kind of swings I’m doing, because its quite a sliding scale, depending how I’m feeling but these were definite “hardstyle”.
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Sadly, this is the only association my mind makes to the word “hardstyle”
Sorry
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My understanding of it is that a “normal” style kettlebell swing is essentially just a hinge, and you let gravity take care of the rest. You get a distinct “float” of the bell as it reaches the top of the movement. Hardstyle involves “catching” the bell at the top by pulling with your lats and core and forcing the bell back down to the start of the hinge position
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