What point am I missing here? About starting position, elbows? Genuinely unsure.
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You want the elbows directly underneath for a strict press but forward (maybe 45Ā° if possible) for a push press. For a jerk even more forward ideally. I myself canāt reach that but I have them definitely more forward compared to a strict press.
Helps to keep the bar balanced on the dip and transfer maximal power from the legs and hips.
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Ah, I see what you mean. Thinkink about it, I imagine I do put my elbows forward at least a little bit on a push press (definitely not full clean position), but I will have to check myself next time.
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I think those of you feeling unsafe with false grip need to do some more grip work.
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By letting the bar rest on the delts, I donāt have to worry about my wrist bending on the initial dip and leg drive. My delts arenāt going anywhere but I can easily let the weight push my arms down or bend my wrists and I donāt want that.
The push press is basically removing the first and weakest part of the press. The eccentric portion is where itāll carry over to strict press.
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When I push press or press, the bar rests on the front of my body anyway, so I donāt have to worry too much about transfer of forces.
On really high rep push presses, Iāve been known to develop bruises on my upper chest from the bar.
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Okay, I get what you are saying, I thinkā¦the idea being that you have it resting on something where you do not lose something in the transference of force.
I might lose a tiny bit, because I lack the arm and wrist mobility to get in an ideal position on the front delts. But I also know that on heavy push presses, I make sure it has a decent resting spot.
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Work for today:
Press:
5 x 40kg
3 x 50kg
10 x 50kg (PR)
10 x 5 @ 50kg
Deadlift:
3 x 70kg
3 x 120kg
1 x 140kg
3 x 3 @ 145kg
SLDL:
2 x 8 @ 120kg
Decline bench machine: some
Front raises: some
Cable raises: some
Cable rows: some
Notes:
- Bit of a twofer today, missed yesterdayās session but didnāt want to get behind on my schedule. Gym was also pretty busy, so all the assistance was made up on the fly. Not what I really was hoping for, but also probably not too important.
- Press BBS sets felt pretty strong today, even though theyāre way over the recommended weights from Forever. Iām also managing to one breathe nearly all of them. Might be linked.
- Decided to break in my lifting straps today, since grip is still feeling a bit shot. Tried on one of the heavier warm ups sets and decided against using it for work sets. What I gained in grip strength, I lost in bracing ability and then some. Iām sure I could overcome that, but I didnāt want to find the time today. Grip held up fine anyway in the end.
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Yeah sorry but even with all the grip work in the world I wonāt suicide Push press ahahah
Not for me, the weakest is around forehead level
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I genuinely donāt get this. Itās the only way I have ever done it.
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Because youāre a strongman using Axles ahah!
Probably because Iām used to jerks?
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But then there is an even greater chance of it slipping out. I have done it with barbells too though.
My 4 fingers are pretty strong. The thumb is strong too, but I have enough faith in the grip without it.
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Itās honestly pretty secure. I do it all the time, if my grip isnāt already fried.
Definitely worth figuring out: learning how to brace in compromised positions is invaluable.
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For sure. But in this case, straps were a crutch I didnāt need. When I get actually strong, there may be a value in using them for deadlifts.
In which case, better to have it sorted out now before you need it.
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Weigh in today, only 197.8lbs. Which is high, but nowhere near as high as expected considering the week of nutritional silliness Iāve just had. Leaves me far more wiggle room than expected to keep myself under 200lbs.
I was trying to stay under 200, that didnāt last long. Then I was trying to stay under 220 and failed. Now Iām thinking, fuck it, go up to 240.
Keeping up the good work on the press I see!
@boyce79 I just like to eat. My missus has noticed that this last week, Iāve been fairly free and loose with eating whatever. I just made sure I got my protein. If Iām going to pretend to do this for health reasons though, Iād probably better not permabulk.
@alex_uk itās slow and steady progress, which is awesome, and also probably the first time anyone has ever said that about the press. Iām finding more and more itās the only lift Iām really emotionally invested in, so it shouldnāt be too surprising. I read a line in Forever recently along the lines of:
āPeople claim their press responds to volume, but only because for most of their training life, its lacked volume and now their making up for lost timeā Iām sure I butchered the quote, but hopefully you got the idea.
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