how many people would it require to secure victory over a large adult Great White Shark…?
is it even possible? even the biggest and angriest of men dont do well in the water.[/quote]
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yeah but you’d lose the boat and one of guys. Plus what if the shark doesn’t get a scuba tank stuck in its mouth? or if it does what happens if you can’t shoot it?
On the other hand, I bet if Brody went down in the cage with the strychnine spear instead of Hooper in the first place everything would’ve been fine[/quote]
3 GUYS 1 to distract and get killed and the other 2 to beat the shit out it.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Much higher muscle density, different muscle composition, wider muscle attachments, stronger tendons, and most importantly greater CNS activation and higher testosterone.
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I think this all boils down to the 10 men involved. What do you mean by average men? If you are taking a cross-section of the Western male population you are going to have a couple of old folks, a couple of obese guys and probably one or two with chronic diseases. If that is the case then I see it going very badly for them.
Also, I guess mindset would be the most important deciding factor. Are the men remotely combat/survival oriented or are they wimpy-men?
I’m going to say the men would win if they were active, mentally tough and conditioned guys (not necessarily big guys, but decent strength and fitness).
I’m going to say the chimp would run through the men like a hot knife through butter if they were “average”, sedentary, skinny-fat, wimpy-men.
Sorry if I missed what type of men these were somewhere in this thread.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
I have no idea why I had the following dreams the last two nights but I did and it had nothing to do with reading this thread because I hadn’t before just now:
Two nights ago - wrestled a five foot long alligator. It bit me on the hand and pissed me off so I literally tore its head off
Last night - helped my brother wrestle a giant white python. While he grappled with it I grabbed my knife and cut it to pieces saving his life in the process.
I’ve also killed a animal/human morph by slamming its head in a washing machine lid.
I also beat a bad guy to death once…with a salmon. A big salmon, like around 3 or 4 ft long.
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You and your brother were wrestlin a giant white python eh… Not sure I would of shared that one Push.
[quote]BulletproofTiger wrote:
I’d go for a triangle choke[/quote]
You mean, pull a chimp’s teeth really close to your crotch? Good luck![/quote]
My balls are made of steel! …It was a joke. This is the last thing I would do.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
I have no idea why I had the following dreams the last two nights but I did and it had nothing to do with reading this thread because I hadn’t before just now:
Two nights ago - wrestled a five foot long alligator. It bit me on the hand and pissed me off so I literally tore its head off
Last night - helped my brother wrestle a giant white python. While he grappled with it I grabbed my knife and cut it to pieces saving his life in the process.
I’ve also killed a animal/human morph by slamming its head in a washing machine lid.
I also beat a bad guy to death once…with a salmon. A big salmon, like around 3 or 4 ft long.
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You and your brother were wrestlin a giant white python eh… Not sure I would of shared that one Push. [/quote]
Hey, I guess I’m bold and undaunted.[/quote]
Or just enjoy wrestling with a large white python. At least it wasn’t a large black python.
The real question is how low can we get that number. I’m mostly with anime guy on this one. Although I agree he is underestimating their strength, most folks grossly overestimate it. I have been sorely disappointed with the research done on chimpanzee strength.
The point to agree on however is that their strength is really the least of your worries. Your biggest concerns are their massive teeth and their fighting style.
On my list of animals at or below my bodyweight that I would have the most reservations about facing in unarmed single combat, chimpanzee is number one (leopard is number two). That’s because at least the leopard will just try and kill you in like one second. Males can get up to 200lbs.
Chimpanzees fight like this: First they’ll bite off your nose, then your lips (taking most of your teeth and gums along with them), then your ears, then they’ll gouge out your eyes and toss them aside, then they’ll take one of your hands and bite off your fingers one by one and maybe eat your hand down a bit, then they’ll do the same with your other hand and both your feet, they’ll also eat the breasts off a woman, and bite off the genitals of either sex.
None of this actually kills you either. They just torture you and eat you alive for about an hour with the victim having long ago wished for death. But instead they almost always take so long that help inevitably arrives and “saves” the mangled ruin that used to be you. Then you live the rest of your life out as a potted plant without even the physical ability left to commit suicide.
The real question is how low can we get that number. I’m mostly with anime guy on this one. Although I agree he is underestimating their strength, most folks grossly overestimate it. I have been sorely disappointed with the research done on chimpanzee strength.
The point to agree on however is that their strength is really the least of your worries. Your biggest concerns are their massive teeth and their fighting style.
On my list of animals at or below my bodyweight that I would have the most reservations about facing in unarmed single combat, chimpanzee is number one (leopard is number two). That’s because at least the leopard will just try and kill you in like one second. Males can get up to 200lbs.
Chimpanzees fight like this: First they’ll bite off your nose, then your lips (taking most of your teeth and gums along with them), then your ears, then they’ll gouge out your eyes and toss them aside, then they’ll take one of your hands and bite off your fingers one by one and maybe eat your hand down a bit, then they’ll do the same with your other hand and both your feet, they’ll also eat the breasts off a woman, and bite off the genitals of either sex.
None of this actually kills you either. They just torture you and eat you alive for about an hour with the victim having long ago wished for death. But instead they almost always take so long that help inevitably arrives and “saves” the mangled ruin that used to be you. Then you live the rest of your life out as a potted plant without even the physical ability left to commit suicide.
What despicable creatures.[/quote]
Our closest relatives.
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And our savagery, abetted by technology, makes theirs look amateurish by comparison.
The real question is how low can we get that number. I’m mostly with anime guy on this one. Although I agree he is underestimating their strength, most folks grossly overestimate it. I have been sorely disappointed with the research done on chimpanzee strength.
The point to agree on however is that their strength is really the least of your worries. Your biggest concerns are their massive teeth and their fighting style.
On my list of animals at or below my bodyweight that I would have the most reservations about facing in unarmed single combat, chimpanzee is number one (leopard is number two). That’s because at least the leopard will just try and kill you in like one second. Males can get up to 200lbs.
Chimpanzees fight like this: First they’ll bite off your nose, then your lips (taking most of your teeth and gums along with them), then your ears, then they’ll gouge out your eyes and toss them aside, then they’ll take one of your hands and bite off your fingers one by one and maybe eat your hand down a bit, then they’ll do the same with your other hand and both your feet, they’ll also eat the breasts off a woman, and bite off the genitals of either sex.
None of this actually kills you either. They just torture you and eat you alive for about an hour with the victim having long ago wished for death. But instead they almost always take so long that help inevitably arrives and “saves” the mangled ruin that used to be you. Then you live the rest of your life out as a potted plant without even the physical ability left to commit suicide.
What despicable creatures.[/quote]
Our closest relatives.
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Closest living. That would also be the Bonobos anyway. Far more peaceful.
[quote]furo wrote:
I think this all boils down to the 10 men involved. What do you mean by average men? If you are taking a cross-section of the Western male population you are going to have a couple of old folks, a couple of obese guys and probably one or two with chronic diseases. If that is the case then I see it going very badly for them.
Also, I guess mindset would be the most important deciding factor. Are the men remotely combat/survival oriented or are they wimpy-men?
I’m going to say the men would win if they were active, mentally tough and conditioned guys (not necessarily big guys, but decent strength and fitness).
I’m going to say the chimp would run through the men like a hot knife through butter if they were “average”, sedentary, skinny-fat, wimpy-men.
Sorry if I missed what type of men these were somewhere in this thread.[/quote]
It would probably be good to have a couple older men, and a sick one or two. These would be who you send it to soften up / distract the chimp a bit. Then you send in the next wave of stronger guys, followed by the toughest guys for the kill. 10 alpha males might end up fighting with each other about the dumb fuck who gets to take the first shot. Sure, there might be a psycho who charges in, but the rest would hang back I bet.
The real question is how low can we get that number. I’m mostly with anime guy on this one. Although I agree he is underestimating their strength, most folks grossly overestimate it. I have been sorely disappointed with the research done on chimpanzee strength.
The point to agree on however is that their strength is really the least of your worries. Your biggest concerns are their massive teeth and their fighting style.
On my list of animals at or below my bodyweight that I would have the most reservations about facing in unarmed single combat, chimpanzee is number one (leopard is number two). That’s because at least the leopard will just try and kill you in like one second. Males can get up to 200lbs.
Chimpanzees fight like this: First they’ll bite off your nose, then your lips (taking most of your teeth and gums along with them), then your ears, then they’ll gouge out your eyes and toss them aside, then they’ll take one of your hands and bite off your fingers one by one and maybe eat your hand down a bit, then they’ll do the same with your other hand and both your feet, they’ll also eat the breasts off a woman, and bite off the genitals of either sex.
None of this actually kills you either. They just torture you and eat you alive for about an hour with the victim having long ago wished for death. But instead they almost always take so long that help inevitably arrives and “saves” the mangled ruin that used to be you. Then you live the rest of your life out as a potted plant without even the physical ability left to commit suicide.
What despicable creatures.[/quote]
Our closest relatives.
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Closest living. That would also be the Bonobos anyway. Far more peaceful.[/quote]
Yeah, a human vs a bonobo would be a pretty boring fight. All the bonobo would want to do is fuck. Or do yoga.
The real question is how low can we get that number. I’m mostly with anime guy on this one. Although I agree he is underestimating their strength, most folks grossly overestimate it. I have been sorely disappointed with the research done on chimpanzee strength.
The point to agree on however is that their strength is really the least of your worries. Your biggest concerns are their massive teeth and their fighting style.
On my list of animals at or below my bodyweight that I would have the most reservations about facing in unarmed single combat, chimpanzee is number one (leopard is number two). That’s because at least the leopard will just try and kill you in like one second. Males can get up to 200lbs.
Chimpanzees fight like this: First they’ll bite off your nose, then your lips (taking most of your teeth and gums along with them), then your ears, then they’ll gouge out your eyes and toss them aside, then they’ll take one of your hands and bite off your fingers one by one and maybe eat your hand down a bit, then they’ll do the same with your other hand and both your feet, they’ll also eat the breasts off a woman, and bite off the genitals of either sex.
None of this actually kills you either. They just torture you and eat you alive for about an hour with the victim having long ago wished for death. But instead they almost always take so long that help inevitably arrives and “saves” the mangled ruin that used to be you. Then you live the rest of your life out as a potted plant without even the physical ability left to commit suicide.
What despicable creatures.[/quote]
Our closest relatives.
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Closest living. That would also be the Bonobos anyway. Far more peaceful.[/quote]
Yeah, a human vs a bonobo would be a pretty boring fight. All the bonobo would want to do is fuck. Or do yoga.
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[quote]csulli wrote:
Now it’s a simple matter of reaching up with your free hand, gouging out one of the eyes, and then shoving your fist inside it’s skull cavity and scrambling its brains.
Nothing could be easier.[/quote]
I’d love to see you pushing with your fingers through a shark’s nictitating membrane.
