[quote]pushharder wrote:
Shit, I wouldn’t want to take on a 120 lbs whitetail doe naked in a handball court.
Wild animals have unbelievable amounts of strength and endurance.[/quote]
I wouldn’t either, but I would much prefer it to other animals. I shoe horses most of the time, I know you have done that as well. I think doing that gives you a pretty good look at what you are capable of. I’m not saying grappling with a 2000 lb horse is the same as a fight to the death with a wild animal, but you are more aware because of it.
I think people under-estimate animals. And I think folks are also confusing the difference between “potential to” and “would.” Does a goose have the potential to break your arm or a bone, yes physically it has that strength/capabiltiy. Would it intentionally make that attempt and would you be dumb enough to let it happen? Probably not.
Try to fish, or go near a flock of Geese with babies. They get nasty real quick.
Hippo’s are a top 5 in Africa, and I believe are responsible for more deaths each year than any other animal in Africa (or predator at least).
I wanted to make a “world tour” at some point in my life to hunt all the dangerous game if I every completed that goal in the US, but after seeing the prices (and not counting the fees to ship back the trophies and you don’t get to keep the meat) I’d rather invest those thousands into something more practical. We’ve got plenty on our contintent to enjoy, no need to go to Africa.
I think a better match would be a silverback gorilla against ‘x’ number of men. That would be interesting. Those dudes are like Mariusz Puzs at Super Saiyan Kaokenx5.
[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
I think people under-estimate animals. And I think folks are also confusing the difference between “potential to” and “would.” Does a goose have the potential to break your arm or a bone, yes physically it has that strength/capabiltiy. Would it intentionally make that attempt and would you be dumb enough to let it happen? Probably not.
Try to fish, or go near a flock of Geese with babies. They get nasty real quick.
Hippo’s are a top 5 in Africa, and I believe are responsible for more deaths each year than any other animal in Africa (or predator at least).
I wanted to make a “world tour” at some point in my life to hunt all the dangerous game if I every completed that goal in the US, but after seeing the prices (and not counting the fees to ship back the trophies and you don’t get to keep the meat) I’d rather invest those thousands into something more practical. We’ve got plenty on our contintent to enjoy, no need to go to Africa.
I think a better match would be a silverback gorilla against ‘x’ number of men. That would be interesting. Those dudes are like Mariusz Puzs at Super Saiyan Kaokenx5.[/quote]
I don’t think any number of men unarmed would fair well against an adult male silverback.
I know, I just want to see the discussion. If someone theorized a torpedo dive into a monkey’s mouth to come out the derriere, I suspect creativity could abound.
Besides, we are over-estimating a male gorilla! They are all show after all.
So what about a gorilla or grizzly bear. The general consensus was that you couldn’t realistically beat a grizzly either. who wins? I would have to vote grizz unless the gorilla got on his back and proceeded to Donkey Kong him.
[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
I think people under-estimate animals. And I think folks are also confusing the difference between “potential to” and “would.” Does a goose have the potential to break your arm or a bone, yes physically it has that strength/capabiltiy. Would it intentionally make that attempt and would you be dumb enough to let it happen? Probably not.
Try to fish, or go near a flock of Geese with babies. They get nasty real quick.
Hippo’s are a top 5 in Africa, and I believe are responsible for more deaths each year than any other animal in Africa (or predator at least).
I wanted to make a “world tour” at some point in my life to hunt all the dangerous game if I every completed that goal in the US, but after seeing the prices (and not counting the fees to ship back the trophies and you don’t get to keep the meat) I’d rather invest those thousands into something more practical. We’ve got plenty on our contintent to enjoy, no need to go to Africa.
I think a better match would be a silverback gorilla against ‘x’ number of men. That would be interesting. Those dudes are like Mariusz Puzs at Super Saiyan Kaokenx5.[/quote]
I don’t think any number of men unarmed would fair well against an adult male silverback.[/quote]
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Shit, I wouldn’t want to take on a 120 lbs whitetail doe naked in a handball court.
Wild animals have unbelievable amounts of strength and endurance.[/quote]
I wouldn’t either, but I would much prefer it to other animals. I shoe horses most of the time, I know you have done that as well. I think doing that gives you a pretty good look at what you are capable of. I’m not saying grappling with a 2000 lb horse is the same as a fight to the death with a wild animal, but you are more aware because of it.[/quote]
Yep.
And you know from experience that were it not for the hundreds and thousands of years of domesticity bred into that 2,000 lbs Belgian draft horse you’d have no chance whatsoever if he went on the fight.
Wild animals just seem to have a way to crank up the adrenaline output. Or whatever.[/quote]
I run into a lot of more Percherons than Belgians, but yes, you are right.
We once had to cut a 200 pound domestic hog, took 4 grown men. I was about 225 with a knee on his head holding one leg and he was lifting me of the ground as we cut him.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
We once had to cut a 200 pound domestic hog, took 4 grown men. I was about 225 with a knee on his head holding one leg and he was lifting me of the ground as we cut him. [/quote]
Throat or heart?
Hard to believe one evolved from the other… or I guess “was bred into,” isn’t it? And then we have animals that don’t even belong in the dog category (imo) like shitzu’s, etc.
I love my Doberman. Best dog I’ve ever owned. Incredibly loyal, always at my side, and ridiculously smart. Not to mention fast, lean, and athletic.
Wild animals just have that “savage” nature to them. One animal is trained to fight with rules - or what they know - the other was raised with none and is pure instinct. Like a Roman soldier fighting a Barbarian. One is trained to fight, the other wields his weapon like a madman and knows no fear.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
We once had to cut a 200 pound domestic hog, took 4 grown men. I was about 225 with a knee on his head holding one leg and he was lifting me of the ground as we cut him. [/quote]
Throat or heart?[/quote]
Nuts
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
We once had to cut a 200 pound domestic hog, took 4 grown men. I was about 225 with a knee on his head holding one leg and he was lifting me of the ground as we cut him. [/quote]
Throat or heart?[/quote]
Nuts[/quote]
Oh I missed the domestic part.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I had a turkey cut me up good enough once to be wary of a bigger meaner turkey (cassowary)[/quote]
You can always gobble at em to turn them haha. Turkeys are a trip[/quote]
I had shot this one low and was trying to ring its neck. Thing got turned over where it could get those spurs going and it got nasty from there. My arms were scarred up for a while. I had to fight a doe off my dog once with a stick once when my dog wandered up on its fawn.
And about horses, that is way more power than I think most people realize. I had a paint spook and spin when I was standing beside it not paying attention, crushed my nose with the side of its head.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I had a turkey cut me up good enough once to be wary of a bigger meaner turkey (cassowary)[/quote]
You can always gobble at em to turn them haha. Turkeys are a trip[/quote]
I had shot this one low and was trying to ring its neck. Thing got turned over where it could get those spurs going and it got nasty from there. My arms were scarred up for a while. I had to fight a doe off my dog once with a stick once when my dog wandered up on its fawn.
And about horses, that is way more power than I think most people realize. I had a paint spook and spin when I was standing beside it not paying attention, crushed my nose with the side of its head. [/quote]
So true. I’ve had more accidents with horses than I care to tell - most of them non-intentional on the horses part. When I was working as a stable hand part of my responsibility was to take yearlings that the owner had left untouched on his big ranch out of state and start the training process. one particularly nasty colt managed to rear up and kick me in the face, then took off while i was still holding the rope, causing me to face plant hard into the dirt. I almost had to have reconstructive surgery on my jaw but thankfully it healed right on its own.