[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Even through his elfin anger[/quote]
I think you’re confusing elves with orcs.
[quote]orion wrote:
BTW, at this point, I am willing to at least consider that I am drawn to the skanktastic side of the spectum.[/quote]
This is the key to everything you’ve written in this thread. You have a low opinion of women because you either don’t attract or aren’t attracted to quality people. Maybe it’s you who needs to change.
james
[quote]atypical1 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
BTW, at this point, I am willing to at least consider that I am drawn to the skanktastic side of the spectum.[/quote]
This is the key to everything you’ve written in this thread. You have a low opinion of women because you either don’t attract or aren’t attracted to quality people. Maybe it’s you who needs to change.
james
[/quote]
FWIW, quality people are usually less experienced in the bedroom. Not that they can’t “gain” experience. It all depends on what you’re looking for.
There’s still something to be learned from the whole PUA community. Knowledge is knowledge; skills are skills. It’s up to you to choose how to apply them.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
FWIW, quality people are usually less experienced in the bedroom. Not that they can’t “gain” experience. It all depends on what you’re looking for.
There’s still something to be learned from the whole PUA community. Knowledge is knowledge; skills are skills. It’s up to you to choose how to apply them.[/quote]
I disagree with the first part of your statement. Having a good head on your shoulders has zip to do with how sexually experienced you are. You can have a lot of sex and even a lot of random sex and still be a good human being.
james
[quote]atypical1 wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
FWIW, quality people are usually less experienced in the bedroom. Not that they can’t “gain” experience. It all depends on what you’re looking for.
There’s still something to be learned from the whole PUA community. Knowledge is knowledge; skills are skills. It’s up to you to choose how to apply them.[/quote]
I disagree with the first part of your statement. Having a good head on your shoulders has zip to do with how sexually experienced you are. You can have a lot of sex and even a lot of random sex and still be a good human being.
james
[/quote]
Well, I did say “usually”. In my experience, quality people tend to be more conservative [in the bedroom], tend to have more self-respect and less willing to try things. Now, obviously, within the confines of a safe, healthy, trusting relationship anything goes… but until you reach that point, “quality” people tend to have more limits than, I dunno, ‘skanky’ people. It’s not so much a matter of experience in terms of time, rather in terms of variety, novelty, experimentation.
Maybe overanalyzing a bit.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
A boy walks into an environment and asks how it will affect him for the better. A man walks into an environment and asks how he can cause it to be better.[/quote]
Also, this was good.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
At this point, I think OP has to be working for Arash Dibazar. Perhaps trying to boost his “clicks” or something SEO related… There’s no way someone can suck a guru’s nuts THIS hard…
He’s just spouting the exact same shit (with a slightly different tattooed face flavor) that many PUA’s have been spouting for ten years now. It’s nothing special. In fact AD’s “look” and “ghey vibe” are not something that many people could successfully pull off congruently. Granted, he has an initially interesting “shock value” and could be perceived as “entertaining” if one were inclined to be entertained by freaks teaching you how to pick up chicks, his over all message is kinda small in the grand scheme of things.
Also, I don’t think MOST “healthy” women, regardless of how many he claims to have banged, would be interested in someone so blatantly on the fringe like he is. And while I’ve certainly banged my share of “erotic, exotic and a little psychotic”, that drama gets old after a while. If that’s HIS thing, then more power to him. But I would argue that what MOST guys want, once they get past the initial “I can pull hot pussy” phase, is to hang out with and bang cool, hawt, chicks with their shit together. As opposed to cool, hawt chicks with daddy issues and who have probably been abused at some point. The latter is EASY to get, once you know which buttons to press, the former, not so much - you gotta have SUBSTANCE, not just be a new bright sparkly thing. Arash doesn’t impress me in any way shape or form. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt. Yawn.
My .02[/quote]
Well, there you go. The end.
/thread.[/quote]
+1 More. Trashy girls are, well, trashy. Good for a weekend, if that.[/quote]
I find that to be a tad elitist.
If you have literally no other option an utter skank does not look that bad.
True, the “its better than nothing” attitude gets old after a while and indeed, its not, but you need to get to that point and the only way to get there is to know in your bones that you can indeed pick some skank up whenever you want to.
So both of you have been there and have done that and are better men for it, but you would disparage men who teach other men how to do it and grow beyond it?
Meh.
Not that Arash does not seem a bit out there to me… but… if thats what it takes for some guys. [/quote]
Na.
Dude preaches anger and distrust and putting out the wrong kind of energy to chicks. If the strategies do work then it only works on weak women.
“I was with two women last night…”
It’s a standard pitch move used in conference rooms and showroom floors all over the country.
What I hate to see is young dudes buying it, believing that they need to leave a wake of risky pussy behind them in order to feel successful, confident, etc.
There’s no fulfillment in treating girls like garbage.
[/quote]
Fulfillment?
No.
But disenchantment, which is worth a lot in its own right, because you can be suuuper nice and not get laid and be an asshole and get your dick sucked.
If that does not get to someone, what would?[/quote]
That’s a cop-out, pure and simple.[/quote]
What is?
[/quote]
Are you condoning being an asshole to get laid?
Nice guys DO get laid… Maybe not quite as much, but that’s another thread.[/quote]
There is a difference between men and boys. This guy’s philosophy is nothing new, “I do the “right” thing, because it makes me feel good.” It is relativism, of course we can make distinctions and define terms into specific philosophies. But, ultimately he is acting like a boy. Even through his elfin anger, it is evident to me that there is nothing that would remind me of a man in him. Though he does make one good point about being a cause point, instead of taking it in the right direction he goes off to the sand box to throw sand in girls’ faces.
A boy walks into an environment and asks how it will affect him for the better. A man walks into an environment and asks how he can cause it to be better. He has this right, except he ultimately espouses the boy’s philosophy–in the disguise of the man’s philosophical language–what can this environment do for me.
Anyway, I’m tired.[/quote]
Alright, there is nothing that reminds you of a man in me?
I stick to my friends when they need me.
My word is my bond.
I pay my own way.
Look around you, I am in the top 10% of how I define manliness and I did not draw up my definition to suit my personality.
What you have is a polyanna definition of manliyness that relies heavily on other people playing by your rule book. If they dont, you are in for some serious anal raping.
I am not because if a situation is seriously fucked up I am not looking to make it better, because I am neither Captain Saveaho nor am I Major MakeSocialismwork.
I get whats mine and try to get the hell out of dodge.
I leave you with a quote from Nietzsche “if something is about to fall, it deserves to be shoved”.
Yeah, he was kind of a “boy” too, I know.
Cliff notes: You are young and idealistic. Get back to me in 10 years.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
A boy walks into an environment and asks how it will affect him for the better. A man walks into an environment and asks how he can cause it to be better.[/quote]
Also, this was good.[/quote]
No, thats dangerous.
You need to know when to walk away.
If you do that consistently, you are Boxer from animal farm.
[quote]atypical1 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
BTW, at this point, I am willing to at least consider that I am drawn to the skanktastic side of the spectum.[/quote]
This is the key to everything you’ve written in this thread. You have a low opinion of women because you either don’t attract or aren’t attracted to quality people. Maybe it’s you who needs to change.
james
[/quote]
Whoa, I am willing to consider that I am drawn to skanks right now.
I am perfectly sure though that I knew some women of quality and that the general outline of their minds was pretty much the same.
They just had better impulse control and whatnot.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
BTW, at this point, I am willing to at least consider that I am drawn to the skanktastic side of the spectum.[/quote]
You don’t sound like you like her even a tiny bit. Which is sad, for both of you.
[/quote]
I do, but it is overridden by other feelings.
But, the more she tries to play me, the less I feel for her.
If all she wants to be is a beautiful face, a sweet smile and empty promises, thats all she gonna be.
The more she reveals her emptyness the less there is to like.
Or hate.
Or anything.
So this thread and many others on the webs, youtube and throughout Google is dedicated to one thing.
Banging women for ONS.
Holy shit, so many pussy slaves these days.
Now you can argue that it gives confidence in other walks of life but seriously, the only reason men follow this shit and pay drama queens obscene amounts of money is to get laid with cheap, slutty poon be it drunk or just flying low in the wake of a breakup.
Slaves to the pussay!
[quote]fncj wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]seph89 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[/quote]
Derek…that’s just mean.[/quote]
Love you[/quote]
What is that on her neck area?
A co-worker suggested it’s a colony of bugs nesting in a warm damp environment, and the imagery gave me the heebies. Damn, just thinking about that while typing this message makes me itch.[/quote]
They are skin tags, a collection of nerve cells, skin, blood vessels, &c. caused by rubbing skin together. Usually find them around the neck, arm pits, between the pubic area and inner thigh especially in obese people.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Even through his elfin anger[/quote]
I think you’re confusing elves with orcs.
[/quote]
Looks like an orc sounds like Lady Arwen.
[quote]atypical1 wrote:
a lot of random sex and still be a good human being.
james
[/quote]
Fo’ sho?
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
At this point, I think OP has to be working for Arash Dibazar. Perhaps trying to boost his “clicks” or something SEO related… There’s no way someone can suck a guru’s nuts THIS hard…
He’s just spouting the exact same shit (with a slightly different tattooed face flavor) that many PUA’s have been spouting for ten years now. It’s nothing special. In fact AD’s “look” and “ghey vibe” are not something that many people could successfully pull off congruently. Granted, he has an initially interesting “shock value” and could be perceived as “entertaining” if one were inclined to be entertained by freaks teaching you how to pick up chicks, his over all message is kinda small in the grand scheme of things.
Also, I don’t think MOST “healthy” women, regardless of how many he claims to have banged, would be interested in someone so blatantly on the fringe like he is. And while I’ve certainly banged my share of “erotic, exotic and a little psychotic”, that drama gets old after a while. If that’s HIS thing, then more power to him. But I would argue that what MOST guys want, once they get past the initial “I can pull hot pussy” phase, is to hang out with and bang cool, hawt, chicks with their shit together. As opposed to cool, hawt chicks with daddy issues and who have probably been abused at some point. The latter is EASY to get, once you know which buttons to press, the former, not so much - you gotta have SUBSTANCE, not just be a new bright sparkly thing. Arash doesn’t impress me in any way shape or form. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt. Yawn.
My .02[/quote]
Well, there you go. The end.
/thread.[/quote]
+1 More. Trashy girls are, well, trashy. Good for a weekend, if that.[/quote]
I find that to be a tad elitist.
If you have literally no other option an utter skank does not look that bad.
True, the “its better than nothing” attitude gets old after a while and indeed, its not, but you need to get to that point and the only way to get there is to know in your bones that you can indeed pick some skank up whenever you want to.
So both of you have been there and have done that and are better men for it, but you would disparage men who teach other men how to do it and grow beyond it?
Meh.
Not that Arash does not seem a bit out there to me… but… if thats what it takes for some guys. [/quote]
Na.
Dude preaches anger and distrust and putting out the wrong kind of energy to chicks. If the strategies do work then it only works on weak women.
“I was with two women last night…”
It’s a standard pitch move used in conference rooms and showroom floors all over the country.
What I hate to see is young dudes buying it, believing that they need to leave a wake of risky pussy behind them in order to feel successful, confident, etc.
There’s no fulfillment in treating girls like garbage.
[/quote]
Fulfillment?
No.
But disenchantment, which is worth a lot in its own right, because you can be suuuper nice and not get laid and be an asshole and get your dick sucked.
If that does not get to someone, what would?[/quote]
That’s a cop-out, pure and simple.[/quote]
What is?
[/quote]
Are you condoning being an asshole to get laid?
Nice guys DO get laid… Maybe not quite as much, but that’s another thread.[/quote]
There is a difference between men and boys. This guy’s philosophy is nothing new, “I do the “right” thing, because it makes me feel good.” It is relativism, of course we can make distinctions and define terms into specific philosophies. But, ultimately he is acting like a boy. Even through his elfin anger, it is evident to me that there is nothing that would remind me of a man in him. Though he does make one good point about being a cause point, instead of taking it in the right direction he goes off to the sand box to throw sand in girls’ faces.
A boy walks into an environment and asks how it will affect him for the better. A man walks into an environment and asks how he can cause it to be better. He has this right, except he ultimately espouses the boy’s philosophy–in the disguise of the man’s philosophical language–what can this environment do for me.
Anyway, I’m tired.[/quote]
Alright, there is nothing that reminds you of a man in me?
I stick to my friends when they need me.
My word is my bond.
I pay my own way.
Look around you, I am in the top 10% of how I define manliness and I did not draw up my definition to suit my personality.
What you have is a polyanna definition of manliyness that relies heavily on other people playing by your rule book. If they dont, you are in for some serious anal raping.
I am not because if a situation is seriously fucked up I am not looking to make it better, because I am neither Captain Saveaho nor am I Major MakeSocialismwork.
I get whats mine and try to get the hell out of dodge.
I leave you with a quote from Nietzsche “if something is about to fall, it deserves to be shoved”.
Yeah, he was kind of a “boy” too, I know.
Cliff notes: You are young and idealistic. Get back to me in 10 years.
[/quote]
Talking about A-rash. Unless you are actually A-rash.
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
So this thread and many others on the webs, youtube and throughout Google is dedicated to one thing.
Banging women for ONS.
Holy shit, so many pussy slaves these days.
Now you can argue that it gives confidence in other walks of life but seriously, the only reason men follow this shit and pay drama queens obscene amounts of money is to get laid with cheap, slutty poon be it drunk or just flying low in the wake of a breakup.
Slaves to the pussay![/quote]
^Gets no “pussay”
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
BTW, at this point, I am willing to at least consider that I am drawn to the skanktastic side of the spectum.[/quote]
You don’t sound like you like her even a tiny bit. Which is sad, for both of you.
[/quote]
I do, but it is overridden by other feelings.
But, the more she tries to play me, the less I feel for her.
If all she wants to be is a beautiful face, a sweet smile and empty promises, thats all she gonna be.
The more she reveals her emptyness the less there is to like.
Or hate.
Or anything. [/quote]
There is nothing in this or anything else you’ve written that indicates liking.
I have a friend, L. I spend a lot of time with her. I like her because she makes me laugh, even…especially…on a bad day. I like her because when I show up in her doorway with a frown, she asks “What is it? Is it the fuckers??” (And yes, it always is.) She uses the terms “cutting” and “bulking” although as far as I know she’s never lifted any weights. And yet she’s in good shape, because she does work out. I think she’s pretty, so I like looking at her.
She loves her family, her dog, our coworkers, and the kids we work with. She and I ran an art camp together and she can draw anything, so when I say “a life-size superhero puzzle!” she makes me one and when I make a hand gesture to indicate fireworks, she draws that, too. She manages to take my boyfriend’s side in arguments when she thinks I’m overreacting without being unsympathetic to me. If I say “let’s drink,” she says “yes!”
I like her because I’ve never caught her in a lie or anything even remotely weasly and because her compassion extends to people she doesn’t like. I like her because when things fall apart for me, she’s there. I like her because she manages her budget well and because her office and her car and her person and her home are very well-kept. She loves me for who I am but also pushes me to be better.
Words like “empty” and “shallow” and “skanky” don’t enter in at all. Those are not “liking” words. They indicate disdain and contempt, which are antonymous to liking.
The world is full of people we don’t like. That’s just the way it is, nothing we can do about it. But why choose to spend your leisure time with them?