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[quote]orion wrote:
So, here is my plan.

She already got what I asked her to get.

We do have a “date” already so to speak.

I will make her change.

I will make her strut her stuff and I will enjoy it.

Then, I will ask her if she is feeling nervous… vulnerable…

Because if there was a moment where I could ram her into the ground emotionally, this would be it.

I will also ask her if she wants to know which way I lean, she will say no, if I play it right, so that the sweet sweet dread of utter rejection and humiliation can hang a little longer over her head.

Then I shall spank her, because she is very spankable and has also been a very, very bad girl.

Obviously.

I shall also take a photo, just so that Roybot can shit himself, but there will be a heavy level of dotting involved or else T-Nation Mods would go all draconian on my ass.

Dont know whether I can pull that off, but I will try.

The last part, the rest I can.

For the rest I dont really have a plan beyond banging her within an inch of her life.

There, I am a man with a somewhat thought out plan.

Perverted suggestions are welcome, I still have a few days.[/quote]

This is very depressing. Assuming it’s true, which I frankly question (a woman with a master’s degree is this incompetent a human being?), your goal is to degrade her for no particular reason than that you feel you can?

I’m very glad my world is so different from yours.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

This is very depressing. Assuming it’s true, which I frankly question (a woman with a master’s degree is this incompetent a human being?), your goal is to degrade her for no particular reason than that you feel you can?

I’m very glad my world is so different from yours. [/quote]

No, her goal is to be degraded because she is used to being put on a pedestal which bores her out of her mind and leaves her as dry as the Sahara desert.

What is so hard to understand about a woman not wanting to be whorshipped for what is basically a genetic accident, symetric features and whatnot and to be treated like a dirty whore every now and then?

Have you read 50 Shades of Grey.

Do you know how badly it is written?

Do you know how well it sells?

Who do you think buys those books and why.

There is also a book called “Dangerous Men and Adventurous Women”.

Its how romance novel writers see things, those books, if I remember correctly, account for one quarter (!!!) of all books sold worldwide.

If I were you I would at least keep it in the realm of my reality that she is not an exotic abberation, she is the norm.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

I gotta say, O, if I’m totally honest, my suggestion is that you grow up.

How’s that for perversion?
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Frankly, I am plenty grown up in most areas.

In this area that advice basically amounts to the admonition to man up and I really have no desire to do so.

Her boyfriend is oh so mature and it gets him what?

She is bored out of her skull and entirely unsatisfied on all kinds of levels.

I would rather see how much I can really push the envelope with a variety of women and if and when the desire arises to be a sacrificial lamb for a womans reproductive instincts I can always do so.

And I dare say, knowing what I want and going for it, plus ignoring what I am told would be mature, actually is rather mature.

At the very least, that speaks for some functioning boundaries, mature people tend to have those.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

You sound like my 13 year-old niece.
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Like a self absorbed, entitled little princess?

Thank the gods Imma gonna get laid like tile.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

This is very depressing. Assuming it’s true, which I frankly question (a woman with a master’s degree is this incompetent a human being?), your goal is to degrade her for no particular reason than that you feel you can?

I’m very glad my world is so different from yours. [/quote]

No, her goal is to be degraded because she is used to being put on a pedestal which bores her out of her mind and leaves her as dry as the Sahara desert.

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Then she’s profoundly fucked up, Orion. I don’t know how to state it any more clearly. THAT"S MESSED UP. And you’re messed up for believing you’ve somehow escaped the Matrix by engaging with her in this manner. That this woman is cheating on her boyfriend is not to do with alpha and beta, it’s to do with that she is a cheat. She exhibits this trait in multiple areas of her life. She’s weak and cowardly and corrupt.

I’m used to being put on a pedestal, too, but that has little to do with anything. Beyond superficial relationships (work and etc) I avoid men AND women who bore me. If you are not very smart, decently self-assured, and a little edgy, you will not become part of my inner circle. I look for honorable men who challenge me in healthy ways, both sexually and intellectually.

You make a mistake when you imagine a man can’t be both sexually exciting (dominant) and loving, or that women can’t be both emotionally secure and physically attracted.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

This is very depressing. Assuming it’s true, which I frankly question (a woman with a master’s degree is this incompetent a human being?), your goal is to degrade her for no particular reason than that you feel you can?

I’m very glad my world is so different from yours. [/quote]

No, her goal is to be degraded because she is used to being put on a pedestal which bores her out of her mind and leaves her as dry as the Sahara desert.

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Then she’s profoundly fucked up, Orion. I don’t know how to state it any more clearly. THAT"S MESSED UP. And you’re messed up for believing you’ve somehow escaped the Matrix by engaging with her in this manner. That this woman is cheating on her boyfriend is not to do with alpha and beta, it’s to do with that she is a cheat. She exhibits this trait in multiple areas of her life. She’s weak and cowardly and corrupt.

I’m used to being put on a pedestal, too, but that has little to do with anything. Beyond superficial relationships (work and etc) I avoid men AND women who bore me. If you are not very smart, decently self-assured, and a little edgy, you will not become part of my inner circle. I look for honorable men who challenge me in healthy ways, both sexually and intellectually.

You make a mistake when you imagine a man can’t be both sexually exciting (dominant) and loving, or that women can’t be both emotionally secure and physically attracted.[/quote]

See, your problem is that I am a) writing and b) not standing right before you.

Because the things that are missing are the ones that are the most important to you when it comes to judging these things.

If I said the very same things to you, with the right voice, with the right posture, with the right attitude of amused detachment it would sooooooo make sense to you…

Anyhow, you insisting on that all of this is only true for some women even though the cultural evidence that it is true for A LOT of them is overwhelming is amusing.

Btw, the most prominent female sexual phantasy is what?

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

Somebody would be wise to listen to his Aunt Emily and Uncle Chushin![/quote]

Why would anyone.

Female hypergamic tendencies are not disputable really, even in Sweden in 90% of all relationships the men earns more there.

Female flirt signals, which are so similar across cultures that Eybl-Eyblsfeld suggested that they must be genetic are f.e looking at man until you makes eye contact, then holding it for 2-3 seconds, then looking at the ground, or exposing her neck and looking down, or leaning into his space a lot…

All of those are also signs of submission or social deferrence.

The most favoritestest female sexual fantasy is a rape fantasy, always with a strong dose of submission, sometimes a heavy dose of masochism too.

I have posted the books, you are perfectly free to read them to find out what gets the American housewife really, really wet.

Its all there, in plain view.

You only have to open your eyes and see.

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[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote
She’s Greek. Put a ring on her finger and she’ll gain 30 lbs and sprout a mustache.[/quote]

Literally the only thing worth reading in this thread.

Orion’s take on women is like reading a knockoff PUA ebook written by a high school sophomore. His parroting of PUA lingo and POVs is almost laughably analogous to the thoughts of a 140lb noob preaching the gospel of his favorite weight-lifting guru.

What a goddamn disaster.

Oh, and a graduate student who doesn’t know how to rewrite a paper for a SCHOOLBOOK is fucking ridiculous. Textbooks contain common information (“basic stuff really”); there are typically no original ideas to worry about plagiarizing (how many times has Maslow’s hierarchy been written about, again??).

Shit, I could lift an article straight outta Wikipedia or Encyclopedia Britannica and make it entirely unrecognizable over the course of a few days… without having to “negotiate” blowjob suction pressure with a colossally misinformed douche to pull it off.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

Bullshit. There’s no such thing as a beautiful politician. [/quote]

Ah, that explains why she has not made her move yet.

Give her another 10 years.

Looks like this, only better and yes, that woman is a politician, the vice mayor of Vienna or whatever you call that position.

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A couple of posts up you were calling her a flaky skank and now you’re defending her honor…I don’t think you’re as hard-hearted as you pretend to be. [/quote]

It’s not so much her honor he’s defending but the quality of women he wants us to think he routinely has chances with.

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[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote
She’s Greek. Put a ring on her finger and she’ll gain 30 lbs and sprout a mustache.[/quote]

Literally the only thing worth reading in this thread.

Orion’s take on women is like reading a knockoff PUA ebook written by a high school sophomore. His parroting of PUA lingo and POVs is almost laughably analogous to the thoughts of a 140lb noob preaching the gospel of his favorite weight-lifting guru.

What a goddamn disaster.

Oh, and a graduate student who doesn’t know how to rewrite a paper for a SCHOOLBOOK is fucking ridiculous. Textbooks contain common information (“basic stuff really”); there are typically no original ideas to worry about plagiarizing (how many times has Maslow’s hierarchy been written about, again??).

Shit, I could lift an article straight outta Wikipedia or Encyclopedia Britannica and make it entirely unrecognizable over the course of a few days… without having to “negotiate” blowjob suction pressure with a colossally misinformed douche to pull it off.[/quote]

There, you also get a video.

That is actually “game” done right.

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[quote]anonym wrote:

Oh, and a graduate student who doesn’t know how to rewrite a paper for a SCHOOLBOOK is fucking ridiculous. Textbooks contain common information (“basic stuff really”); there are typically no original ideas to worry about plagiarizing (how many times has Maslow’s hierarchy been written about, again??).

Shit, I could lift an article straight outta Wikipedia or Encyclopedia Britannica and make it entirely unrecognizable over the course of a few days… without having to “negotiate” blowjob suction pressure with a colossally misinformed douche to pull it off.[/quote]

Yeah, but I write better than you.

Not in English, but in German.

You are also ignoring the shit testing involved.

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[quote]orion wrote:
You are also ignoring the shit testing involved. [/quote]

I ignore shit testing in every encounter I have with women.

Though, to be honest, if I needed a calculator, astrolabe and flowchart to successfully navigate my way between the legs of another human being, I would probably be more conscious of their existence.

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[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
You are also ignoring the shit testing involved. [/quote]

I ignore shit testing in every encounter I have with women.

Though, to be honest, if I needed a calculator, astrolabe and flowchart to successfully navigate my way between the legs of another human being, I would probably be more conscious of their existence.[/quote]

Ah, arrogant ignorance.

How utterly charming, see, there is your game right there.

Maybe you are one of those people game tries to emulate, sure TD does not find the most kindest words for them, buts surely that are just his feelings of inferiority speaking.

I will admit though that I find the thought that I, unlike you, can actually turn it off at will rather comforting.

Oh well…

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
I don’t know maybe instead of practicing inner game he should practice being more selective of character in the women he dates[/quote]

Generally good advice. And something I need to be better about.[/quote]

But I dont date her and she is a 9.

I am not saying that I am doing a good thing here, but maybe an understandable one?

Apparently she was already looking to have an affair because her guy is a complete beta gerbil and my, um, offer came in handy.

I say, this is her rationalization hamster on warp 9, she would never trade sex for anything because she is a “good girl”.

And good girls dont do that.

What is wrong with people that they alway need to drag canned moral ideas into a perfectly good social experiment.

Party poopers-

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If a good friend of mine, I’d highly caution against this little “experiment”, if only because it has the potential to get very messy.

But since you’re not going to be dissuaded, I’m curious as to the outcome.

FWIW, my agreement above was in general that “[a guy] should be more selective of a woman’s character”, rather than anything to do with you.

Recently, I made a mistake in thinking that a girl who just started to get a glimpse of her own power – as a hot 19yo with a good amount of charm – to actually not get sucked in by it. I pointed out the warning signs, I showed her how her attitudes changed, but she kept on going. And when it got bad, it surprised me she would actually play THAT dirty – but that’s a story for another time.

Very interested in how long it will take before her world comes crashing in on her. Because it will. Hard. And at this rate, there won’t be anyone there to help her up.

It was an interesting experiment at least. Even though it left all my friends shaking their heads, I have no regrets.

So yes… I’m very curious how this turns out for you and her.

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[quote]orion wrote:

Btw, the most prominent female sexual phantasy is what?[/quote]

Key word is fantasy you fucking moron.

Lots of males fantasize about being in war and shit too, doesn’t mean any of them actually want to experience the terrifying reality of such a situation.

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[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

Btw, the most prominent female sexual phantasy is what?[/quote]

Key word is fantasy you fucking moron.

Lots of males fantasize about being in war and shit too, doesn’t mean any of them actually want to experience the terrifying reality of such a situation.[/quote]

You are an utter idiot.

You dont even know what their fantasies are about.

Go play in traffic.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

Btw, the most prominent female sexual phantasy is what?[/quote]

Key word is fantasy you fucking moron.

Lots of males fantasize about being in war and shit too, doesn’t mean any of them actually want to experience the terrifying reality of such a situation.[/quote]

You are an utter idiot.

You dont even know what their fantasies are about.

Go play in traffic.

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Yep

Please tell us more about how a bunch of autistic basement dwellers figured out the inner workings of the human mind that professional sociologists and psychologists haven’t. Oh wait they don’t know because they aren’t unplugged from the matrix of course.

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[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

Btw, the most prominent female sexual phantasy is what?[/quote]

Key word is fantasy you fucking moron.

Lots of males fantasize about being in war and shit too, doesn’t mean any of them actually want to experience the terrifying reality of such a situation.[/quote]

You are an utter idiot.

You dont even know what their fantasies are about.

Go play in traffic.

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Yep

Please tell us more about how a bunch of autistic basement dwellers figured out the inner workings of the human mind that professional sociologists and psychologists haven’t. Oh wait they don’t know because they aren’t unplugged from the matrix of course.
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Of course.

They cant get you laid if you dont know how.

We can.

The proof is in the pudding.