I have 2 bottles ergopharm 1ad. I was thinking of taking 300mg a day for the first 2 1/2 weeks and then bumping it to 500mg for the last two. Should I do this or run a longer cycle of just 300mg a day? I was planning on dhea or Testabolan (run during cycle and post cycle therapy) to help libido and lethargy? As a PCT i have Toremifene, 6 oxo, and retain 2, What dosages would you recommend since i hear conflicting reports for 1ad? thanks for the help
Also i am debating when to start. Over christmas break i will have a better gym (that contains all my power lifting stuff), i will have training partners to push me and help me with my gear such as my bench shirt. I will also be lifting with some of the top powerlifters in the nation. I will have more and better food as well.
The only downside is i will be drinking due to family affairs (wedding, bachelor party, etc) and christmas and new years and such. At school i dont have as good of a gym, training partners, or as much good food,which would you do
I did well on 600mg a day. You can go up to 700 but its a little pricey. I would run at 600 start to end. After two weeks you should notice a good increase in strength. Are they selling 1AD again??
Don’t think 1AD is like AAS. I’ve done alot of it in my day before it was banned. You’ll get a small kick doing 6 caps per day. You probably won’t even get much from the 1st bottle. You’ll need 3 or 4 bottles to get a marginal kick and don’t forget all that has to go through your liver. Gains are not permanent either.
So your going to pay about 200 bucks for a temporary gain that equates to about 20% of an AAS run tops. Don’t waste your money.
PCT not necessary. I never lost sex drive and was never lethargic on it.
[quote]linebacker5270 wrote:
Running it at 600mg would cut my cycle to 20 days. You think they is better than running a longer cycle at a lower dose? thanks for the help[/quote]
You could do 500 but I wouldn’t go any lower than that. I would only get a boast for the first two weeks or so then I’d go off. So, yes I’d run them for 20 days.
[quote]grrrsauce wrote:
Hagar wrote:
I guess they are. Too bad it cost so much.
Did you find that Pacific Coast thing too for $100?[/quote]
I saw them somewhere for just under a $100 a bottle at one site but thats jacked up and you can find ergo 1 ad a lot cheaper. There’s also another brand that costs less.
Thanks for the help. I only payed 100 for both bottles so it was not too bad. I guess i will run 300 for the first two days to get my stomach used to it then bump it up to 5. Also, i am going to run a SERM just in case. Anyone got some recommended dosages for the Torm? i was thinking about a 60/60/30
I would recommend looking into a 2 on 2 off protocol. I’ve found that after the second week, the gains drop off drastically. Thats how it works for me anyway. This protocol also helps to hold more of your gains along with minimizing the impact on your natural test levels.
[quote]linebacker5270 wrote:
for PCT? how so? i know nolvadex can eat away muscle but i heard that Torm does not. I figured a proper PCT would help you keep gains if anything[/quote]
Sorry thought you were using it during cycle. Ya for PTC a serm would be good but I’ve never used one for a pro hormone cycle. The only thing I’ve used is an AI aromasin.
[quote]firestanggt wrote:
I would recommend looking into a 2 on 2 off protocol. I’ve found that after the second week, the gains drop off drastically. Thats how it works for me anyway. This protocol also helps to hold more of your gains along with minimizing the impact on your natural test levels.
Just something to think about.[/quote]
I’ve used this same approach! It does work the best. After 2 weeks it just stops working so why waste it? Definitely recommend the higher doses. When Ergo first put these out the bottles said take 7 caps a day. Because of PC crap and fear of law suites, they switched it to 3 a day. Well 3 a day never did much for me and it was just a waste. Can’t do that with 1AD being my fav prohormone.
Just to add The 11 oxo sounds cool. It works to suppress cortisol.
You shouldn’t take it during PCT as it will further cause suppression. But I bet it would work good for some one trying to cut. Stacked with something else and you might have an effective combo. I’ve made some good progress with prohormones. I’m glad to see most the worth while ones are still around.
[quote]linebacker5270 wrote:
thanks for the help guys. Would a non ph cortisol blocker such as retain 2 be good for PCT? i know some people use it[/quote]
I have no idea. Just looked it up. Never heard of it before.