[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Brick- you’re becoming quite the QnA columnist on here lately -lol
(always good info though, I hope other people are taking notes)
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I agree. As someone who spends his time lurking for the most part, I have to say that I tend to always read his posts as they tell it how it is without a lot of the unnecessary complication that some seem to insist on.
Kreb and Stu: Thank you.
Just curious Brick on your opinion; Do you really find the term recomp acceptable? It implies conversion of fat into muscle or losing fat while gaining muscle.
I agree with your posts above, but to my knowledge by crash dieting essentially (even if high protein aka, muscle sparing) one will suffer dramatic fat gain once they return to a bulk or maintenance of sort.
This article pretty much proves that meal replacement plans (like the V-Diet) offer a good degree of weight loss quickly, however people tend to gain a great portion back.
Thoughts?
People tend to gain the weight back because of lack of nutrition education. This has been the topic in several studies involving protein sparing modified fasts - lack of knowledge on how to control weight after the diet.
The metabolic rate does come down during these kind of diets and that’s why in the RFL diet there’s a carb load and cheat meal.
Some people can return to normal eating and not suffer any bad results and others might become a bit bloated. However, people must adjust the diet to their NEW weight. Many uneducated or nutritionally unskilled and untrained people don’t know how to do that - including people on this board, considering we still have people asking in the nutrition forum, “What’s good to eat?” and “Is this enough food?”
Bottom line is it’s a lack of education.
Also, if anyone is really interested in reading very good material on PSMDFs, refer to the work of Dr. Stephen Phinney.
Something I’m always wary of, when coming off of a cut, is that you may be more sensitive to insulin, and have to be careful slowly adding carbs back in (or bringing levels back up), or if you’ve played with your water levels (for a contest), once you introduce sodium containing foods, you will puff up quite a bit.
And yes, as brick pointed out, people forget that their new, lower weight, requries less calories for maintenance each day.
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It took me the last year to recomp to a degree that was very visible in pictures. I know other shave touched on this, but 1-2 weeks won’t do shit. Recomping is the slowest possible way to make further progress and your genetics have to be geared towards it and you have to carry enough muscle for the act to be justified in the first place.
Otherwise, just diet normally.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
It took me the last year to recomp to a degree that was very visible in pictures. I know other shave touched on this, but 1-2 weeks won’t do shit. Recomping is the slowest possible way to make further progress and your genetics have to be geared towards it and you have to carry enough muscle for the act to be justified in the first place.
Otherwise, just diet normally.[/quote]
You and I have spoken about this before. That’s what many people don’t understand on here.
First off, one week of ANYTHING isn’t going to do shit. Which is why if someone decided to do a PSMF, it should be done for a minimum of 2 weeks to get back on track.
And second, people on here don’t understand the difference between getting things in check versus GETTING SHREDDED TO THE BONE - a REAL transformation.
And you’re right about the genetics issue. In Bodyopus, Dan Duchaine wrote, “There are some genetically hapless individuals who will lose about a pound of muscle for every few pounds of fat lost.” I believe this to be true.
I also believe it to be true, in more cases than those with bad genetics, that to diet successfully while holding onto A LOT of muscle, you will need a lot of experience under your belt so that the body isn’t inclined to lose all that muscle because of an altered “set point”, as you, PX, have written many times, despite the fact that hardly anyone in here picks up on it.
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Something I’m always wary of, when coming off of a cut, is that you may be more sensitive to insulin, and have to be careful slowly adding carbs back in (or bringing levels back up), or if you’ve played with your water levels (for a contest), once you introduce sodium containing foods, you will puff up quite a bit.
And yes, as brick pointed out, people forget that their new, lower weight, requries less calories for maintenance each day.
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JB goes over this in his article sequel to the Get Shredded Diet.