Interesting I do have 1” needles lying around maybe I should try to see.
Because I am doing delts currently
Same amount of injections per week and blood drawn at the same time ? Yea this is a first that I’m hearing this. I’ve heard slower absorption etc but never this…
Well, I just checked my notes and I was taking 50mg EOD for the 1in deep injections, and 80mg 3x per week for the 1/2in, all delts. So not exactly apples to apples, but always checked at my lowest point before an injection.
I do plan on replicating this again tho sometime in the spring to try it again.
It didn’t kill your delts going that frequent with 1 inch and I assume 25g?
Some scar tissue but no issues
It’s not even close to what you said above !!! Tell me how 50 mgs EOD = 120 mgs week. Also your checking levels less than 24 hours after injection on EOD … at 3x a week it can be after 48 hours if done correctly.
Very false information given like I tonight
Memory is a fallible thing my guy. As for check in 24 hours after injection and every other day, that is not correct it’s checked every 48 hours, before each injection. Every three days is 56 hours since I did my shots Monday morning, Wednesday afternoon and Friday night so there’s an equal amount of time between each. T Take that for what it’s worth
I reread your post, it’s not false information. You’re just not interpreted it correctly. It happens.
When I get some time, I’ll think about this a bit more. Thinking will involve some math haha. I would think 240 mg three times a week at trough would be significantly higher than 175 total or 50mg EOD at trough.
Would you be willing to post the actual labs? I’d like to see what shbg was for both. This can impact clearance rates.
This whole thing has me thinking.
I’m assuming the blood draw was Monday morning? So the difference between the two blood draws was 12 hours?
Were you using the same ester for both? I think ester time is not a clear subject, but I don’t think the widely reported half-lives are as long as they say. It seems closer to 4 days for test e and 5 for test c.
A shorter half life will make a difference here, especially if you were using a longer ester with the 50 mg EOD protocol.
Same test cyp from Hikma for both.
There is an 8 hour difference in the timing of the lab tests actually. I had to check that lol. They are several months apart.
80mg 3x weekly (every 56 hours) 1/2 in to the delts: TT 1343ng SHBG 38nmol e2 935pg (this I just assume is error, obvi)
50mg EOD (every 48 hours) 1in to the delts: TT 1477ng SHBG not tested e2 82pg
The second lab draw got me in trouble with my clinic, cos they did not like how high my TT was. I thought there was no way on 50mg EOD I would have a problem so I didn’T try to time the lab draw to let TT come down some.
So I guess 240mg vs 175mg weekly total, but like I said, not apples to apples exactly. My point was that injecting deeper raises my TT higher than shallow injections. I don’t have a good reason why; I’d like to be able to do SQ or shallow IM injections and not have to worry about tissue damage long term.
Edit: my SHBG typically sits between 25-40nmol unless I am running orals. I don’t think it would have been super high or super low on that second lab draw, but maybe?
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I’m sure all these guys know more than me but my experience it depends on the type of the test but if its test cypionate, everyone says 1 week from pin to pin (so 7 days) but I always felt like dogshit 1 or 2 days before the next pin. Idk if I’m a fast metabolizer or whatnot but increasing dose had the same effect.
Personally, I would pin every 6 days or even 5 days depending on how your body feels…but always ask your doc. Unfortunately, most docs don’t think critically or problem solve.
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Ok dumb question. I inject my trt .3ml three times a week with 29g 5/8. And just rotate flute sites. Some times it’s a little fatty area some time more muscle and I get how that affects absorption time. But why would going deeper into glute vs shallow Effect the total t level?
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