what are your thoughts?
why would you choose one over the other
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Many guys cycle and find that PCT causes too much muscle loss, or feeling like shit, then switch to Blast and cruise. other guys like myself committed to TRT before blasting. In terms of bodybuilding and muscle building, blast and cruise is always better.
I have no idea what is the point of cycling. I like how King Kamali said : “you are done when you are done”.
So you use steroids to gain some muscle, then use other drugs to get off steroids while losing 90% of your gains and going through a hormonal fuckstorm just to come back on in a while anyways.
Idk, maybe im an idiot, but i am blasting for 10 years straight, my bloodwork was as it is when staring the blast, as in - everything is 10% on the shitty side, but it does not get worse by years. Ofc, i am not megadosing, but most people would call this blasting - i just switch around the amounts of shittier drugs to some milder, etc, but my bloodwork is done at least once a month, my hearth is being monitored by doctors(because i had a heart attack and clinical death BEFORE i started all this) and for now im fine. I know im shaving off some 10 years of my life, but i would not change my 20s and 30s for some extra 10 years when im 70+.
NOT recomending this to anyone, BUT i do recomend blasting and cruising or blasting and milder blasting(lets say 400mg of test forever if you can handle it).
Im just the type of person who is all in or all out. I have seen some people in here posting their pics while on steroids and shit man - my girlfriend looks more muscular natty than some people on cycles in here.
I also believe that cruising is better for your body as in you need less drugs in general(PCT drugs are also drugs) and you go through less rollercoasters. Human body can adapt to stuff, but it wont adapt if you constantly fuck with it.
I use an example of using tanning beds also. If you live in some shitty place where it snows all the time and you are pale white, it is better to just tan and then upkeep the tan by going once a week or once every 10 days, than burning yourself 3x a week for 3 months, then letting it all go just to go and burn yourselft intensively again in a while. I believe that the most damage is done by changing things too much and ripping your body in 2 different directions again and again, than to just letting it to adapt to stuff.
My, non recomendable experience, i was in best shape of my life when i was going 1g of test and 800mg of tren, for 2 years straight. My bloods were as they always were and had no sides except the friggin tren caugh. I trully believe that it is better to adapt to shit, than to do that cycle for 2 months, then fucking it all up with going cold turkey and then starting it all over again. I remember 10-12 years ago, we also used to “cycle” in my country, and it was just ups and downs and i actually think that i had that heart attack in my early 20s because of cycling for 2 years, because i have been blasting 10 years after that and i have no health problems.
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Ohhhh boy this is gonna get interesting … 1 gram of test and 800mgs of tren for 2 years straight and been blasting for 10 years straight.
Where’s the popcorn …
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My fucked up pituitary chose for me, so it’s TRT for life and some blasts thrown in for fun
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that’s what im sayin, i feel like you can lose so much muscle off cycle because your body doesn’t match the amount of hormones it needs to hold all that muscle.
I’d rather just cruise at a low dose, and keep my gains
I chose to start a blast and cruise regime after a few cycles mostly due to personal convenience and the ability to blast more.
I find it more convenient to pin twice a week year round than to pin for 12-16 weeks then stop and use another drug orally, daily, for another 4-6 weeks. I’m terrible when it comes to taking daily medication.
Following the convention of time off = time on, including PCT, meant that for a 16 week cycle I would need to be off for 22 to 25 weeks. So realistically I could only do one cycle a year, but only 4 months would be at a superphysiological level and several weeks, if not months would be at horribly low levels.
Following a blast and cruise protocol I can blast for 12 weeks, cruise for 12 weeks, blast for 12 weeks and cruise for 12 weeks easily; meaning that 6 months are at a superphysiological level and 6 months are at a high normal level. This is just an example: blasts can be longer or shorter.
It’s also easier to drop to a cruise dose in case of an emergency than to start a PCT and figure out when you can cycle again. When the pandemic hit and the gyms closed I was easily able to just stop my blast and cruise for a few months, then as soon as the gyms opened back up start a new blast. Plus, at my cruise dose and with my paltry home equipment I was able to retain more size and strength than my compatriots.
The idea of taking time off after PCT to let your body “return to normal” only to subject it to another cycle seemed dumb to me as well.
Psychologically it’s also better as there’s no personal “itch” to get back on after coming off. It’s easier to push back a blast to a later date.
I figure there will come a time when I want to come off completely and when I do, that will probably be the day when I’m done with bodybuilding.
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I don’t think for most people a cruise of 400 mg/wk is a good idea. I think that unless you are huge, the amount lost on an actual trt or high trt dose is minimal.
I think once one gets to the point that they lose their gains on a high trt dose (200-250), that they really need to consider just being the size they are. The risk vs reward gets skewed much more to risk when you need a cycle dose for cruise.
At that “cruise” dose a person can still progress a bit. Maybe slow recomp, maybe some strenght gain, etc. At lower doses after a blast, i dont think there is any progress to be made, but being ON and not getting shit out of it, for me, seems weird, unless you are done with the sport and/or older, and just want to lay back and live your life.
In my opinion, the only reason you would cycle is if:
- you want to maintain fertility
- You can’t afford TRT
- You don’t want to be on TRT for the rest of your life.
- You enjoy the rollercoaster that hankthetank mentioned.
I don’t know why anyone not concerned with fertility would ever cycle and PCT.
Uh, yeah.
Agree with 1-4, and even
This should be every man’s concern, at least until you have had all the children you want.
Too many young guys go into this, at the time and don’t think it through properly, and it makes it hard for them to haver kids 10 years after starting to B & C.
Yes there is hcg, but its not 100% guaranteed.
Personally I liked cycling better than B & C mainly because I didn’t lose most of my gains off cycle(27 years of natty training), adequately restored my ball function(though not to pre steroid use). Not having to inject every week is good.
Only reason I’m doing trt 125mg/week with an occasional little blast at 250mg, is due to legal issues, after getting charged with possession of unprescribed steroids, otherwise I would still be cycling.