You Vs. a Pit Bull

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[quote]on edge wrote:
pushharder wrote:

You just inadvertently made the case for outlawing the UFC, boxing, and for that matter, the NFL. No, don’t say, “But that’s different”, because in all three sports the participants enjoy fighting, need to be protected from themselves, and I guess, should not be allowed to breed.

It’s different because people have a choice.[/quote]

I had a lengthy spiel about my past and now you are a dunderhead, but to say that dogs do not have a choice makes you ignorant. One, you have never matched a dog. Two, you have never seen a real gentleman’s pit match. Three, you have never seen the prep it takes to match a dog.

Rules of fighting:

[quote]Rule 1: The principals shall select a referee who is
familiar with the rules and who is satisfactory to both
sides. The referee will then appoint his Timekeeper. Each
handler will select a man to act as his chief second or
corner man, whose duties are to wash the opponent’s dog, and
to remain near this dog’s corner as an observer.[/quote]

Does the first rule out of fifteen show how complicated the actual fight is. I have these rules written in a letter by a man that taught my grand father and some words are a little different, but the majority is the same. Basically they have to cross the scratch line and touch the other dog in order to keep going. If the dog does not want to fight (does not scratch) or is scared and hops out of the pit they match is done and the other dog wins.

It’s even more complicated. The game test you have to put the dog through, and having to find a good enough wrestler to game test your dog.

Then, the 16 weeks of conditioning before every fight (usually 4-5 fights in a life time).

The process of breeding the right dogs, weeding out the curs to be sent to a good home. Make sure none are aggressive to humans (immediate extermination).

There is no impromptu fights, they are just like boxers they have to make weight that is agreed upon. And there is no such thing as heavy weights, the heaviest dog I have seen in a match was 43.5 lbs.

The stereotype of these fights is blood and loud barking and killing. Well if that is what you’d expect, you would be disappointed, most have less blood then most conservative UFC fights and less barking then one too. These dogs do not need to bark, barking is to scare things away and receive attention, these dogs want to establish dominance over the other. Bottom line.

The only dogs that died in the old days (slim chance) was when they died from shock from the IV that was given to them, because everyone tried to save these dogs afterwards.

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[quote]Arkane wrote:
My first reaction was concealed carry based but after a little thought you damn near have to let the animal bite you first before you can react these days.

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that was mine first but
no you don’t
i’ve done it,cops do it all the time and so has my friend who is deployed to Iraq. if it were to charge you in a aggressive manner, you can take care of business.

if i wasn’t carrying that day, a knife in the neck works pretty good. anyways any joggers out there, carry pepper spray and you won’t have to kill anyones dog.

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I’ve been attacked by a German Shephard. The wife and I were walking my baby son many years ago. He was in a stroller. A Shepard came over to us and started growling, then barking and bearing his teeth. I told her to stay put and I walked to the side of a neighbors yard drawing his attention. He had a firewood pile and I grabbed a log and wacked him with it on the side of the head. He kind of just convulsed a little and ran off shaking his head.

I’m a lot more jaded now. I’d probably just shoot him now.

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real story here:

look at my profile, and you will see a pic of me and a large bulldog. his name was joker, and he was am-staff/boxer/mastiff mix. great dog, gentle as a lamb with people, would not even bark at a serial killer if they entered my house.

but he had a huge prey-drive, anything small and furry and moving fast was lunch to him.

2007 superbowl sunday, he attacked a neighbors little fluffy lap dog. all 240lbs of me and two of my full grown male neighbors could not get him off the little dog. we were punching, kicking, even doing WWE style flying knee and elbo drops on his head, back and chest, did not faze him in the least. a 85lb middle aged neutered dog, against three full grown men, were were helpless. if we had clubs, bats, spears, knives, whatever, maybe different story, but “hand to jaws” we were as i said helpless. we might have well been mosquitoes buzzing his ears.

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I have never been attacked by a pit, but it has been my experience that any other dog will back off if you pick up, or pretend to pick up a rock.

I have been attacked several times, and this seems to be instinctual to all breeds I have encountered.

Once they get a hold of you though, probably a thumb to the eye.

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[quote]heavythrower wrote:
real story here:

look at my profile, and you will see a pic of me and a large bulldog. his name was joker, and he was am-staff/boxer/mastiff mix. great dog, gentle as a lamb with people, would not even bark at a serial killer if they entered my house.

but he had a huge prey-drive, anything small and furry and moving fast was lunch to him.

2007 superbowl sunday, he attacked a neighbors little fluffy lap dog. all 240lbs of me and two of my full grown male neighbors could not get him off the little dog. we were punching, kicking, even doing WWE style flying knee and elbo drops on his head, back and chest, did not faze him in the least. a 85lb middle aged neutered dog, against three full grown men, were were helpless. if we had clubs, bats, spears, knives, whatever, maybe different story, but “hand to jaws” we were as i said helpless. we might have well been mosquitoes buzzing his ears. [/quote]

Man I am sorry that you had to go through that. For you or anyone else that owns a bully with a strong prey drive, or if they are just dog / animal aggressive please see the link below. It will save lives.

http://www.pbrc.net/breaksticks.html

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[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:

Man I am sorry that you had to go through that. For you or anyone else that owns a bully with a strong prey drive, or if they are just dog / animal aggressive please see the link below. It will save lives.

http://www.pbrc.net/breaksticks.html [/quote]

Good post. I was thinking the same thing when I read his post…they needed a fucking breaking stick. Beating the shit out of the dog only increases the tenacity. It made me sick to read that.

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[quote]hedo wrote:
I’ve been attacked by a German Shephard. The wife and I were walking my baby son many years ago. He was in a stroller. A Shepard came over to us and started growling, then barking and bearing his teeth. I told her to stay put and I walked to the side of a neighbors yard drawing his attention. He had a firewood pile and I grabbed a log and wacked him with it on the side of the head. He kind of just convulsed a little and ran off shaking his head.

I’m a lot more jaded now. I’d probably just shoot him now.[/quote]

Hahahahaha!

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I think that if I were attacked a thumb in their eye after I had gotten to a point where I wasn’t getting anywhere vital would surley stop the fight.

No matter how well trained the dog is, If I can jam my thumb through both their eyes I will win the fight with my life. At the very least I will be able to escaped as the dog will have a much harder time getting a hold of me with no eyes, and I highly doubt many things in this world will still be rearing for a fight after having both of its eyes violently removed.

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My 150 pound rottweiler is a real murdermachine, if your not carefull he’ll run up to you, lick your hand and beg for attention.
anyways if a dog comes at you grab its ears and its pretty helpless. if you arent coordinated enough to grab its ears, well im sorry but i dont know what you could do then.

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Being a Correctional officer both adult and juvenile this fits the bill for an ideal big dog attack defense!
http://www.apexbattery.com/streetwise-800k-stun-baton-home-security-systems-stun-guns.html
just in case someone says it wouldn’t work, - YouTube

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In a nightmare scenario where its dark, the attack by a large K-9 was sudden and from behind without warning, I’m alone, in a muddy field too slippery to stand firm and the thing had me knocked down flat with its teeth behind my neck.

I’m dead.

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In the next to best case scenario I’d have a few moments warning and SOMETHING to use as a weapon.

Pens make nice stabbing weapons for a dog’s side to hopefully puncture a lung (heart’s out if all you got is a pen but if you have good long knife, good for you!) , rocks are barely better than nothing, bats are hard to use while grappling with a dog, and very heavy metal pipes/wrenches are great for in close fighting and/or if you bash its skull just where the neck joins.

I suppose I’d end up sacrificing an arm to keep its jaws occupied while I try to kill it.

Dogs can lose a lot of blood and still keep going but eventually they’ll die too.

Or at least stop chewing on you long enough to allow you to stagger to a hospital.

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Best case scenario is I’d managed to get the heck away from the thing without getting bit by some miracle.

Even a small nick by an unknown dog means very expensive and painful rabbies shots at the least.

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
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I have worked as a political canvasser and have been bitten, twice, after the owners have said “The dog doesn’t bite.” I have come to the conclusion that dog owners don’t know their dogs. They all say this. Their dog is the sweetest thing, and would never bite. Never trust a dog owner. They mean well, but don’t have a clue. And when you read stories about a dog that mauled a 4 year old kid, the owners all say the same thing. Their dog doesn’t bite.

As for whether a man stands a chance against a dog fully intending to maul, I submit the following. When I was little, about 6 or so, I was with my sister and my Dad, when a pitbull charged us out of nowhere. It leaped straight toward my Dad, a former boxer, who connected a solid cross on the skull of the airborne dog. The dog landed on the grass and didn’t get up. Out cold. It’s a childhood memory still vivid to this day.

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[quote]Gael wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
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I have worked as a political canvasser and have been bitten, twice, after the owners have said “The dog doesn’t bite.” I have come to the conclusion that dog owners don’t know their dogs. They all say this. Their dog is the sweetest thing, and would never bite. Never trust a dog owner. They mean well, but don’t have a clue. And when you read stories about a dog that mauled a 4 year old kid, the owners all say the same thing. Their dog doesn’t bite.

As for whether a man stands a chance against a dog fully intending to maul, I submit the following. When I was little, about 6 or so, I was with my sister and my Dad, when a pitbull charged us out of nowhere. It leaped straight toward my Dad, a former boxer, who connected a solid cross on the skull of the airborne dog. The dog landed on the grass and didn’t get up. Out cold. It a childhood memory still vivid to this day.[/quote]

That’s awesome.

My dad told me a story about him ripping the jaws a part on a doberman that attacked him.

I don’t know if it was true, but he was a big scary fucker, and I saw him do some crazy shit.

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I don’t know if anybody has posted this yet…

BITE THE DOG!

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[quote]Hadow Khan wrote:
I don’t know if anybody has posted this yet…

BITE THE DOG![/quote]

Its been suggested several times.

Specifically to bite the dog on the nose.

Never had a chance to try it myself, but from observing dogs fight, I don’t think the average dog would be incapacitated by a human biting its nose.

Dogs bite each other all the time. And dogs as a general rule have a bit much, much worse than the average human who lacks the fangs and jaw power of a dog.

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Dunno if this has been posted.

I use to own 2 pittbulls and I would play “ruff” all the time. Best thing to do is get a hold of there throat. Then holding there esophagus get them off the ground or against the wall as quickly as you can. They really hate it. And they struggle like an SOB. But if you hold them against the wall I think you could choke them out.

Or if you want to pin them grab the loose skin by there ears. And pin them back against something. They will really struggle but I think the choke would be more effective. But atleast they won’t be biting you. But if they are in pairs watch out for the second one comming to the defense of the first.

Mase or pepper spray works to stop them in there tracks. I have seen this before on when good dogs go bad or something. But carefull cause it takes a sec or 2 to kick in.

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:
I have never been attacked by a pit, but it has been my experience that any other dog will back off if you pick up, or pretend to pick up a rock.

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Really? That’s amazing, because I used the same trick (kinda) when I was mugged by three dudes…I pretended to pick up a rock, but I guess they were crazy enough to doubt my pretend aim, either that or they figured I could get one, maybe two of them with my pretend rock(s) while the third got my wallet…thinking quickly I tossed the pretend rock(s)over my shoulder and pretended to pick up a machine gun (can’t remember what specific type/make/model of machine gun I was pretending to pick up…probably a Tommmy Gun, but I think any type/make/model would work as long as you can sell it)…then…I pretended to aim it at them…those hooligans headed for the hills and are probably STILL running. HA HA ! To celebrate, I pretended to pick up a smokin’, hot blonde and made hot, sexy, faux-love with her pretend vagina right there in the alley.

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[quote]sen say wrote:
Testy1 wrote:
I have never been attacked by a pit, but it has been my experience that any other dog will back off if you pick up, or pretend to pick up a rock.

Really? That’s amazing, because I used the same trick (kinda) when I was mugged by three dudes…I pretended to pick up a rock, but I guess they were crazy enough to doubt my pretend aim, either that or they figured I could get one, maybe two of them with my pretend rock(s) while the third got my wallet…thinking quickly I tossed the pretend rock(s)over my shoulder and pretended to pick up a machine gun (can’t remember what specific type/make/model of machine gun I was pretending to pick up…probably a Tommmy Gun, but I think any type/make/model would work as long as you can sell it)…then…I pretended to aim it at them…those hooligans headed for the hills and are probably STILL running. HA HA ! To celebrate, I pretended to pick up a smokin’, hot blonde and made hot, sexy, faux-love with her pretend vagina right there in the alley.[/quote]

I’ll pretend that was funny. Seriously try it with any random dog and see how they react.

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I think that people underestimate humans in this scenario. If the dog has the ability to completly go berserk while fighting for it’s life why does a human not possess the same ability?

We ARE animals in our nature still and we can still go apeshit and start fighting like our life is on the line. Relentless attacks to the eyes and throat will leave any dog, bar the very well trained, from second guessing you as its prey. Especially “T-men” at that. I think that most of us live for the day when they will face a challenge such as this, its what they prepare for.

Given a knife, or other weapon the situation would turn in the favor of the human even more. In this thread it has assumed that we are completly docile, and that some of us don’t have a snarling beast of our own ready to come out when needed. Dogs, nor humans are invincible, repetitive stabbing into any part of their body, especially those which are vulnerable, such as their stomach or neck, at the very LEAST will slow down any dog.

I think the main thing would be to try to maintain some control in the fight, never go down and if you do get UP.