You Guys Ready for Sarah Palin Yet?

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Karado wrote:
The demographics have changed dramatically, and for someone like Palin to even come
close to winning or running is a pipe dream now, she completely and utterly dismissed the Hispanic
community the first time around, trust me on this one…it is what it is, like
it or not. Like Romney, she has absolutely NO repoire with that community
whatsoever, not even a little bit, especially after her many cold and distant immigration
voice inflections and attitude on Fox News hispanics can pick up on like a fuckin’ sixth sense.
Too late to try to fix that, Rubio at least has a fighting chance.
HH stop digging her up from her proverbial grave, Palin is finished,
and if that TOWNHALL magzine cover is a new one, THEY don’t get it either
and they are setting themselves up for an even bigger failure in the next election.
No way around it, the fickle, conservative valued, religious and family oriented Hispanic
community cannot be ignored this time if the Republicans are to turn around this
country any time soon, if they dismiss Hispanics once again, the Republicans are finished, maybe forever.

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You are projecting the current climate into the future. This is false.

We are going to have an economic collapse and debt repudiation. Then we get a war. The world of the shyster lawyers like the Clintons and Obamas will end. A MORAL person will be chosen to lead us out of the chaos.

Our Cincinnatus will be Sarah Palin.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

Click and Boom. Another liberal bites the dust.

Anyone who ever voted for that plagiarizing moron for any political office oughta run like a scalded cat before he pontificates about the alleged stupidity of Sarah Palin. She could design and build a functioning nuclear bomb in her basement before Joe Biden could learn how to make toast.[/quote]

Joe Biden’s intelligence or lack thereof has no bearing on Sarah Palin. This is a thread about her and a hypothetical 2016 run (which will never happen because the smart power players in the Republican Party agree with me on this issue). I gave my opinion. You don’t like it, but you can’t defend her intelligence (who fucking could?), so you counter with…look at that guy and how stupid he is!

Not exactly a subtle dodge.

What do you think about Palin, Push? Do you honestly think she’s intelligent, well-read, and familiar enough with the particulars of American government to warrant her seeking and winning high office?

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Haven’t you had enough of these Harvard lawyers (Obama, Romney), Yale business grads (Bush), and scummy Rhodes Scholars (Clinton)?
[/quote]

Yes. We need someone who received an education funded by tax payers. She truly understands and values socialist principles. She is a manifestation of the leveling of the playing field and equal opportunity…the very things socialism fosters. I believe her campaign slogan will be: Don’t let mediocrity hold you back.

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[quote]smh23 wrote:
Do you honestly think she’s intelligent, well-read, and familiar enough with the particulars of American government to warrant her seeking and winning high office?[/quote]

Do you honestly think that the US would elect a far left winger with only two years experience in the Senate and never having had sponsored even one bill and who also attended a racist church for 20 years?

Well it happened.

But no…Palin will never become President the media has made her damaged goods. Where Obama was elevated by the media Palin was trashed.

And like Obama said during his first campaign “we are going to all 57 states.”

But he’s soooo smarrrrrt!

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[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Haven’t you had enough of these Harvard lawyers (Obama, Romney), Yale business grads (Bush), and scummy Rhodes Scholars (Clinton)?
[/quote]

Yes. We need someone who received an education funded by tax payers. She truly understands and values socialist principles. She is a manifestation of the leveling of the playing field and equal opportunity…the very things socialism fosters. I believe her campaign slogan will be: Don’t let mediocrity hold you back. [/quote]

It seems that you’ve just described a program developed by the left to assist minorities in attending college.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:
Do you honestly think she’s intelligent, well-read, and familiar enough with the particulars of American government to warrant her seeking and winning high office?[/quote]

Do you honestly think that the US would elect a far left winger with only two years experience in the Senate and never having had sponsored even one bill and who also attended a racist church for 20 years?

Well it happened.

But no…Palin will never become President the media has made her damaged goods. Where Obama was elevated by the media Palin was trashed.

And like Obama said during his first campaign “we are going to all 57 states.”

But he’s soooo smarrrrrt!

[/quote]

This is exactly what Push did–dodge and change the subject. It’s a pattern: “answering this question will force me to defend something I don’t actually want to (or could) defend, so I just won’t do it.”

How about you give your answer, Zeb. Do you think of Sarah Palin as intelligent, informed, and fit for the Presidency?

I doubt it very much.

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LOLOLOLOL! The Great Collapse is on the way.

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[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Haven’t you had enough of these Harvard lawyers (Obama, Romney), Yale business grads (Bush), and scummy Rhodes Scholars (Clinton)?
[/quote]

Yes. We need someone who received an education funded by tax payers. She truly understands and values socialist principles. She is a manifestation of the leveling of the playing field and equal opportunity…the very things socialism fosters. I believe her campaign slogan will be: Don’t let mediocrity hold you back. [/quote]

Waitress → City Council member → Mayor → Energy Commission → Governor (80% approval)

Yep, she is surely a ‘mediocrity’. Now, since she has accomplished far more in life than you could ever imagine, can I tattoo a big ‘L’ on your forehead?

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[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:
Do you honestly think she’s intelligent, well-read, and familiar enough with the particulars of American government to warrant her seeking and winning high office?[/quote]

Do you honestly think that the US would elect a far left winger with only two years experience in the Senate and never having had sponsored even one bill and who also attended a racist church for 20 years?

Well it happened.

But no…Palin will never become President the media has made her damaged goods. Where Obama was elevated by the media Palin was trashed.

And like Obama said during his first campaign “we are going to all 57 states.”

But he’s soooo smarrrrrt!

[/quote]

This is exactly what Push did–dodge and change the subject. It’s a pattern: “answering this question will force me to defend something I don’t actually want to (or could) defend, so I just won’t do it.”

How about you give your answer, Zeb. Do you think of Sarah Palin as intelligent, informed, and fit for the Presidency?

I doubt it very much.[/quote]

It’s obvious to me that you don’t read my posts.

One more time, she would be way down the line for me relative to my first choice for President.

However, Biden is far worse and Obama has proven himself to be an absolute train wreck so I would vote for Palin over either of those two in a heart beat!

Did I leave any speculation as to how I feel on the topic?

No?

Good!

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:
Do you honestly think she’s intelligent, well-read, and familiar enough with the particulars of American government to warrant her seeking and winning high office?[/quote]

Do you honestly think that the US would elect a far left winger with only two years experience in the Senate and never having had sponsored even one bill and who also attended a racist church for 20 years?

Well it happened.

But no…Palin will never become President the media has made her damaged goods. Where Obama was elevated by the media Palin was trashed.

And like Obama said during his first campaign “we are going to all 57 states.”

But he’s soooo smarrrrrt!

[/quote]

This is exactly what Push did–dodge and change the subject. It’s a pattern: “answering this question will force me to defend something I don’t actually want to (or could) defend, so I just won’t do it.”

How about you give your answer, Zeb. Do you think of Sarah Palin as intelligent, informed, and fit for the Presidency?

I doubt it very much.[/quote]

It’s obvious to me that you don’t read my posts.

One more time, she would be way down the line for me relative to my first choice for President.

However, Biden is far worse and Obama has proven himself to be an absolute train wreck so I would vote for Palin over either of those two in a heart beat!

Did I leave any speculation as to how I feel on the topic?

No?

Good!

[/quote]

Fair enough. No problem with this. It’s tough to keep track of what everybody on the board thinks about every little thing, but I did suspect that this was your position.

More importantly is that this could not happen. She cannot win. As has been said in this thread already, the only people cheering for this are left-wingers and crazy right-wingers. It is a recipe for a certain Republican loss.

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[quote]smh23 wrote:
More importantly is that this could not happen. She cannot win. As has been said in this thread already, the only people cheering for this are left-wingers and crazy right-wingers. It is a recipe for a certain Republican loss.[/quote]

You are stuck in the current environment.

Rat lawyers like Obama, Clinton, the Senate set the country up for a massive fail.

WHEN THAT HAPPENS, then Palin.

Reading comprehension = a good thing.

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I think she has common sense.
Something that is sorely lacking in the world.
Something you can’t teach at Harvard.

Being intelligent does not mean you possess common sense.

And in general being intelligent results in failure at common sense ( because it is just a too simple and direct observation of reality for a complex IQ to stomp down and reach from the lofty heights of their minds.).

I would take common sense over intelligence any day for positions of leadership.

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]Sifu wrote:
Two major hurdles that Palin would have to overcome are:

  1. She’s a woman.

  2. She’s damaged goods.

What the Republicans need to do is find some new talent that is going to have a broad appeal and is not going to go flaccid in the final stretch like McCain or Romney. [/quote]

Well Obama overcame his hurdles:

  1. Barack Obama associates himself with weirdos. Those who surround Obama fall into a wide category of radicals, Marxists, communists, and Americans who have joined together in a coordinated effort to overthrow capitalism and the Republic of the United States of America."

  2. All those women voters overlooked the fact that he was a man.

The Russians knew Obama was being groomed for the presidency:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2122714/posts[/quote]

Obsama didn’t overcome his hurdles on his own, he had significant help. Besides his hurdles are far different from hers. For Obama the media is an ally. For Palin it is a hurdle.

The sad state of affairs in this country is most people are so disinterested in and disengaged from the political process that they really have no idea who they are voting for. So Obama’s links to the Marxists and other radicals just doesn’t register as a danger sign to many people.

Think about this. America is now a country where for many voters their most trusted, serious, “news source” is Jon Stewart. A fucking comedy show! The man isn’t even all that good of a comedian. It tells us just how far this country has degenerated intellectually.

The whole notion that a woman is sure to get the women’s vote is risible. It is deeply ingrained into the nature of a woman to be highly competitive with and therefore critical of other women. They are ruthless with other women and will tear her to shreds.

Another factor that is deeply ingrained into female mind is recognition of the Alpha Male. At the end of the day they are most likely to vote for an Alpha Male over another woman. Look at the 2008 Democrat primary between Obama and Hillary.

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[quote]Sifu wrote:

The whole notion that a woman is sure to get the women’s vote is risible. It is deeply ingrained into the nature of a woman to be highly competitive with and therefore critical of other women. They are ruthless with other women and will tear her to shreds.
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Absolutely true!

I am female, not a feminist and I can tell you even the indoctrinated feminazis will still be that way inclined.
Deep down in their IDs where feminism can’t reach, women prove true to their nature that their role is to be cooperative with the Alpha Male, not competitive.

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[quote]Alpha F wrote:
I think she has common sense.
Something that is sorely lacking in the world.
Something you can’t teach at Harvard.

Being intelligent does not mean you possess common sense.

And in general being intelligent results in failure at common sense ( because it is just a too simple and direct observation of reality for a complex IQ to stomp down and reach from the lofty heights of their minds.).

I would take common sense over intelligence any day for positions of leadership.

[/quote]

They don’t need to be Einstein but there is a baseline level of intelligence that is absolutely necessary. If one is seeking the office of the Vice Presidency, for example, one must understand the role of the Vice President of the United States. One must have the ability to name more than one single Supreme Court decision in American history. One must have the ability to name a book, magazine, or newspaper that one has read. One must know what NAFTA is and be able to name its THREE (including us) signatories.

If even half of the above paragraph is accepted as valid evidence, we can reach no other conclusion than that she’s astonishingly ignorant.

And, by the way, she’s also shown a serious dearth of common sense. For example, she refused to be prepped for the Couric interview. I know, I know, how could she have guessed that the media would’ve come out with vicious curve-balls like “what do you read?” and “what other Supreme Court decisions do you disagree with?”

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[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
I think she has common sense.
Something that is sorely lacking in the world.
Something you can’t teach at Harvard.

Being intelligent does not mean you possess common sense.

And in general being intelligent results in failure at common sense ( because it is just a too simple and direct observation of reality for a complex IQ to stomp down and reach from the lofty heights of their minds.).

I would take common sense over intelligence any day for positions of leadership.

[/quote]

They don’t need to be Einstein but there is a baseline level of intelligence that is absolutely necessary. If one is seeking the office of the Vise Presidency, for example, one must understand the role of the Vice President of the United States. One must have the ability to name more than one single Supreme Court decision in American history. One must have the ability to name a book, magazine, or newspaper that one has read. One must know what NAFTA is and be able to name its THREE (including us) signatories. [/quote]

I agree completely.[quote]

If even half of the above paragraph is accepted as valid evidence, we can reach no other conclusion than that she’s astonishingly ignorant.

And, by the way, she’s also shown a serious dearth of common sense. For example, she refused to be prepped for the Couric interview. I know, I know, how could she have guessed that the media would’ve come out with vicious curve-balls like “what do you read?” and “what other Supreme Court decisions do you disagree with?”[/quote]

Fair enough.
I don’t know enough about her to comment on this so will leave for the others.

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[quote]smh23 wrote:

It’s tough to keep track of what everybody on the board thinks about every little thing…[/quote]

Yeah, but you’re talking to ZEB. So…you should not only read but remember everything that I say.

(That was tongue in cheek for those have a difficult time keeping up)

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[quote]Elegua360 wrote:
Now…someone LIKE Palin, as in, someone not part of the Ivy League educational establishment…yeah, I would definitely consider such a person.[/quote]

You do realize that our Founding Fathers were all highly educated right? In fact many went to Harvard.

Since when did being intelligent and well educated become something that was not desired in someone leading?

And yes I know that we’ve had nine presidents (including Washington) who did not attend college.

james