Just an update: I’m proceeding with Nolva 20mg a day. First day was 80 mg, second day was 40 mg. Is 20 mg enough… and should I also use Clomid ?
My balls are okay size but they’re riding high and tight, which is unusual. Is this normal in pct ?
Just want to update this thread. So I did 8 weeks of Pct with Nolva and took my last 10 mg Nolva dose 15 days ago. I got blood work and my Total T is 305.
Is there a chance I will continue to recover or should I expect to hover around this range for good now since it’s been almost 3 months …
Is there any more secrets bulkman ? I don’t mean you wear pink knickers.
Stay off the gear mate and do more research is my advice, you don’t sound stable at this present time. The chances are you might need TRT with 305 TT but give it more time, stick it out another while and redo bloods. In the mean time research how to boost your natural test levels. This is the risk you take… I myself am on TRT now for years, my levels never returned. Good luck man
About 2 years ago I did double my T naturally… it was in the tank after not working out and having a shit diet for many years and so I decided to lose some body fat, did HITT 3x a week, lifted lightly 3x a week, retested 3 months later and went from 360 to 730.
But I’m not sure if that was a fluke or if it was directly caused by my leaning out.
Right now I am not as lean as I was when I tested at 730 as I am bulking so maybe leaning out will boost me.
Anything is worth a shot before deciding on TRT, that’s you for life.
I wouldn’t commit to TRT yet. I would do another cycle but with a better PCT (clomid added) and making sure I stayed super lean to get a true gauge of my levels before commiting to TRT.
On the bright side, at least I did technically recover to “normal range” after over a year of blasting 500 mg test. It could have been much worse…
Just curious Rizla, you said you’re on TRT. How long did you give yourself to recover ? Did you try multiple TRT restarts with HCG blasts prior ?
Tried a good few. HCG then nolva. HCG then clomid and Nolva. I abused gear through my 20s, I’m 37 now.
After a long lay off close to 6 months my numbers were low and I felt like death. Been on TRT years now
I did something similar and stayed on for 1 year but dropped to TRT 100mg a week doses between cycles.
unfortunately I did not recover well, I did multiple pct restarts and also tried triptorelin, felt great for 3-4 weeks from the triptorelin so it does work but then my test dropped back to 400s, and on clomid my test rose to 800s so I know the problem isn’t my balls.
( I know 400 isn’t super low, but it was hell for me)
I’m on TRT now but I’m thinking about giving a restart a go again as my thyroid was underactive during my low T stage, not sure if it’s a cause or effect of the low T but as it’s back functioning well due to correct supplements im wondering if I can at least recover my test to 600s it will be better than TRT as it has been difficult for me to get dialed in.
I wish you good luck and if your struggling look into triptorelin, stimulates both FSH and LH but you are limited to the amount to times you can use it
Good luck
I know what you mean I feel like death at 305. That’s the exact word I used as a matter of fact lol funny you say that .
Shit man how old are you ? Did you get baseline bloods before hopping on ? If you’re going to give a restart a try Id recommend what allowed me to double my T naturally and that was losing body fat and becoming very lean. This means sacrificing gains, but only temporarily.
Leaning up allowed me to go from 360 to 730 however my diet was awful when I tested in the 300s and I had been completely off the gym for years, eating fast food and sugar daily, etc. So I really don’t know what’s my baseline T is when I’m healthy… I want to believe it’s 730 but maybe that was just random
I’m also 28, so quite young for TRT.
I didn’t get baseline before the first time I took steroids but I had tests before this 1 year shutdown showing T in the 700s.
My body fat is around 12% at the moment but my diet could be better, I’m struggling with sugar at the moment.
I eat clean for main meals but I snack on too much chocolate haha Christmas too.
But thanks for the advice, If I do decide a restart I may drop down to 9-10% bf first and clean my diet right up, see if that helps.
Have you started your recovery yet?