[quote]ZEB wrote:
Yea, who cares about the fabric of society, and a 5000 year old institution? And who cares how messed up the kids will be after witnessing who knows what for 18 years? And what’s the difference if we promote a lifestyle that has the single highest death, disease and suicide rate in the world?
Honestly, these are minor details. What we really need to look at is how one gay partnership could possibly effect you. Ha, it can’t. Right?
It’s all really very simple, especially when your a 20 something.
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Actually this is a pretty good point. For many it’s not the existence of gheys that’s the problem. It’s gay culture.
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[quote]ZEB wrote:
Yea, who cares about the fabric of society, and a 5000 year old institution? And who cares how messed up the kids will be after witnessing who knows what for 18 years? And what’s the difference if we promote a lifestyle that has the single highest death, disease and suicide rate in the world?
Honestly, these are minor details. What we really need to look at is how one gay partnership could possibly effect you. Ha, it can’t. Right?
It’s all really very simple, especially when your a 20 something.
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Actually this is a pretty good point. For many it’s not the existence of gheys that’s the problem. It’s gay culture.
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“Gay culture” (whatever that means) is a problem?
Care to elaborate?[/quote]
Hetro’s didn’t come up with the Gay Culture, gay’s did.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Yea, who cares about the fabric of society, and a 5000 year old institution? And who cares how messed up the kids will be after witnessing who knows what for 18 years? And what’s the difference if we promote a lifestyle that has the single highest death, disease and suicide rate in the world?
Honestly, these are minor details. What we really need to look at is how one gay partnership could possibly effect you. Ha, it can’t. Right?
It’s all really very simple, especially when your a 20 something.
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Actually this is a pretty good point. For many it’s not the existence of gheys that’s the problem. It’s gay culture.
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“Gay culture” (whatever that means) is a problem?
Care to elaborate?[/quote]
Hetro’s didn’t come up with the Gay Culture, gay’s did.[/quote]
He brought up “gay culture” as a problem. I take that to mean he has knowledge of this culture and how it is a problem for us straight types.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Yea, who cares about the fabric of society, and a 5000 year old institution? And who cares how messed up the kids will be after witnessing who knows what for 18 years? And what’s the difference if we promote a lifestyle that has the single highest death, disease and suicide rate in the world?
Honestly, these are minor details. What we really need to look at is how one gay partnership could possibly effect you. Ha, it can’t. Right?
It’s all really very simple, especially when your a 20 something.
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Actually this is a pretty good point. For many it’s not the existence of gheys that’s the problem. It’s gay culture.
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“Gay culture” (whatever that means) is a problem?
Care to elaborate?[/quote]
Hetro’s didn’t come up with the Gay Culture, gay’s did.[/quote]
He brought up “gay culture” as a problem. I take that to mean he has knowledge of this culture and how it is a problem for us straight types.[/quote]
It corrupt the family unit, it corrupts the image we have of what is right.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Yea, who cares about the fabric of society, and a 5000 year old institution? And who cares how messed up the kids will be after witnessing who knows what for 18 years? And what’s the difference if we promote a lifestyle that has the single highest death, disease and suicide rate in the world?
Honestly, these are minor details. What we really need to look at is how one gay partnership could possibly effect you. Ha, it can’t. Right?
It’s all really very simple, especially when your a 20 something.
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Actually this is a pretty good point. For many it’s not the existence of gheys that’s the problem. It’s gay culture.[/quote]
And how much do you think ‘gay culture’ is a result of generations of societies trying to eradicate their ‘gheyness’ using all sorts of punishment, persecution and ‘treatments’? It’s interesting that the older generation of gay men often tut tut at the younger generation which tends to not engage in ‘the scence’ - but just tend to live normal lives. Why? Because ‘gheyness’ has been accepted more broadly and the need to differenciate is decreasing. So - don’t like ‘gay culture’? Let people be and they will naturally strive to adapt to the mainstream - why do you think people are pushing for marriage of all things? As Thunderbolt said in the other thread, it’s about recognition - but imho not as a sign of radicalism, rather as a sign of attempts to join the establishment.
Makkun[/quote]
Yea, we straights pretty much force gay men to have unsafe sex with multiple partners. To be on the prowl for sex regularly and to march in gay parades performing lewd and crude acts. We are also responsible for 67% of all new HIV cases coming from gay men. Yea, that makes sense.
Certainly no one is to blame for their own actions in 2010, and God forbid that you actually try to make them take responsibility.
Just as a side note, I love seeing the “limited government” conservatives lose their mind when the topic of gay marriage pops up.[/quote]
Still completely baffled and confused as to the difference between conservatives and libertarians, anarchists, I see. [/quote]
Not in the least, it is more like being baffled how some comservatives think that they can build a government powerful and informed enough to regulate the most intimate details of peoples lifes and yet act all surprised if it turns around to bite them.
How is it corrupting the family unit? Gay marriage has zero bearing on my marriage. It hasn’t corrupted it or deligitimized it at all.
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You live in Oklahoma, I live in Oklahoma part of the year. I also go out to California a few times, and what is acceptable out there is different than what is acceptable in the mid-west, and you see the difference because of the “gay culture” out there.
Society, community, families, &c.
Since this is a motherfucking democracy. Until they change that, you gotta deal with my opinions.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[…]Yea, we straights pretty much force gay men to have unsafe sex with multiple partners. To be on the prowl for sex regularly and to march in gay parades performing lewd and crude acts. We are also responsible for 67% of all new HIV cases coming from gay men. Yea, that makes sense.
Certainly no one is to blame for their own actions in 2010, and God forbid that you actually try to make them take responsibility.[/quote]
Well, if you read the CDC sources in the final consequence: Yes, not ‘we’ but some straights help create the climate with discourages gay men to come out, take responsibility, practice safe sex and check their HIV status - and in other ways negatively affect they health and wellbeing. As discussed and thoroughly explained before, 67% of all new US HIV cases are affecting gay men - with a heavy weighting on black poor men.
Blame tends not to help solve problems - it’s an easy way to ignore them. Taking responsibility does - it’s the hard way. And it goes both ways - just as some msm need to man up to more responsibility, so should the ones among us ‘straights’ who’ve been actively standing in the way of solving the problem by focusing on blame alone.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
It corrupt the family unit, it corrupts the image we have of what is right.[/quote]
Is that the royal ‘we’ at work there?
Or do you speak for some broad chunk of humanity?
To my mind, morality has nothing to do with homosexuality.[/quote]
Homosexuality is morally wrong.[/quote]
Dude, just say you are against gay marriage and the gay buttsecks for religious reasons and leave it at that.
Because otherwise, your argument is pretty week.[/quote]
It is spelled weak.
And actually it’s not, Natural Laws, which I found through Mises, before I entered in full communion, I found that through Natural Law, homosexually is morally wrong.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
It corrupt the family unit, it corrupts the image we have of what is right.[/quote]
Is that the royal ‘we’ at work there?
Or do you speak for some broad chunk of humanity?
To my mind, morality has nothing to do with homosexuality.[/quote]
Homosexuality is morally wrong.[/quote]
Says which document that the Framers wrote? The Bible does not rule the U.S.[/quote]
If you knew anything about me, I hardly use the Bible. Natural Law, and the Documents that the Framers wrote do not establish morality, I’m sorry to burst your bubble. As smart as they were, there are smarter people when it comes to morality.
