X-Men First Class

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[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
Case in point, rubber ears for Cap [/quote]

Silly example. That Cap movie was produced by Cannon. Cannon: proud purveyors of the American Ninja movies and Superman 4: The Quest for Peace. They got the rights to both Cap and Supes for a pittance and being Cannon, rubber ears were the least of their worries. If I remember correctly, Red Skull was Italian (poss. a member of the Mafia). I haven’t seen it for years.

Besides, Cap didn’t have rubber ears in the comic so technically it’s a creative liberty :slight_smile:

All things considered the '80s Cap costume looked OK. Don’t speak too soon about them not using the classic Cap costume in the Avengers. Chris Evans has confirmed that he’ll have a new costume when he hooks up with Stark and co.

Let’s not overlook the perils of deviating too far from costume design, like when Steve Rogers wore the costume his Gran knitted him for Christmas so she wouldn’t be upset…

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[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
Umm I always took it as a joke not a dismissal regardless of what his lord Nolan says. Fanboy and proud since 1986(Captain America 339 Fall of the Mutants crossover with The Captain fighting Famine it ends with Tony Stark giving Steve a pure adamantium sheild which he later gives back becasue it was a bribe to stay out of Tony’s way during Armor Wars). Some of fanboys can take a joke [/quote]

Nolan didn’t say anything. People misinterpreted the yellow spandex quote off the back of his realistic take on superheroes. I don’t care how many comics you quote, some fanboys don’t know when they are being insulted. I’ve posted two of the most iconic costumes in cinematic history which fall under the category of yellow spandex, and still the penny hasn’t dropped.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
Case in point, rubber ears for Cap [/quote]

All things considered the '80s Cap costume looked OK. Don’t speak too soon about them not using the classic Cap costume in the Avengers. Chris Evans has confirmed that he’ll have a new costume when he hooks up with Stark and co.

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Not so much and those movies really really sucked. Yes I know they’ve already said they will be shitting on the classic costume and the pics they’ve shown are the Stark designed costume. You have to have some realism in a comic film or else it will bomb if Hugh Jackman walked out dressed in a yellow jumpsuit ala the bride or Bruce Lee it would be dumber than an Italian facist mobster Red Skull :wink:

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This is a decent shot of the USO suit Chris wears in the film, then he get’s the helmeted one and circular sheild. From what I’ve read it is close to the Kirby designed suit and he wears it as a propaganda outfit on tour with the USO becuase he’s the only super soldier.

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Oi I’m wolverine, this would not work at all in a movie

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[quote]kevinm1 wrote:

Not so much and those movies really really sucked. Yes I know they’ve already said they will be shitting on the classic costume and the pics they’ve shown are the Stark designed costume. You have to have some realism in a comic film or else it will bomb if Hugh Jackman walked out dressed in a yellow jumpsuit ala the bride or Bruce Lee it would be dumber than an Italian facist mobster Red Skull ;)[/quote]

If “those” movies “really really sucked” why did you cite them as an example of faithful costume design when they couldn’t be faithful due to being so sucky?

I think you’re googling for info now (especially the part about Red Skull. Come on, 'fess up, you didn’t know that did you?). That last Cap pic was not from the Cannon movie: it was from the TV series with Reb Brown (the crash helmet and transparent shield gave it away).

You aren’t reading my posts: Chris Evans has said that the costume he’ll wear in [finger quotations]the Avengers [/finger quotations] is not the same as the one he wears in the [finger quotations] solo movie [/finger quotations]…

Of course, how stupid of me. X-Men movies are far more grounded in reality than Game of Death or Kill Bill. My, how we all chuckled when Bruce Lee and Uma walked on in yellow and black tracksuits and dealt indiscriminate death to all and sundry. If only they’d dressed head to toe in leather, then their victims would’ve taken them seriously and ran for their lives, thus avoiding all the needless, but hilarious slaughter.

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[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
Oi I’m wolverine, this would not work at all in a movie[/quote]

OK. Now you’ve well and truly kicked yourself up the ass with that last pic. A commerically made Halloween costume designed to hide the physical decline of an out-of-shape yet nostalgic forty something would not work at all in a movie. Pay attention Hollywood producers especially Bryan Singer. Oh, you already did.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
I don’t know I felt the story was missing a lot and the characters where just thrown in there except Erik and Charles. I did enjoy the scene for scene reshot of the original X-Men in he concentration camp. All in all I wasn’t thrilled with it but it did have some good moments, cerebro being introduced, Rebecca Stamos’ cameo, the training montage(but a week? Really?). I didn’t hate it like I did X3 but it certainly isn’t my top comic movie, I would put it just over Daredevil but under the Tomas Jane Punisher as far as like factor.[/quote]

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The Punisher was a “cute” take on that character and nothing more. Hell, a real Punisher movie would be covered in blood and exposed brain matter. Jane COULD have been a very good punisher with a decent script…but they didn’t have one.

Rating this below Punisher means I should avoid your opinion on any other movie.[/quote]

I have a friend that said The Punisher was awful. I happen to think it’s a bad ass movie, though I didn’t grow up following any comics

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
I don’t know I felt the story was missing a lot and the characters where just thrown in there except Erik and Charles. I did enjoy the scene for scene reshot of the original X-Men in he concentration camp. All in all I wasn’t thrilled with it but it did have some good moments, cerebro being introduced, Rebecca Stamos’ cameo, the training montage(but a week? Really?). I didn’t hate it like I did X3 but it certainly isn’t my top comic movie, I would put it just over Daredevil but under the Tomas Jane Punisher as far as like factor.[/quote]

?

The Punisher was a “cute” take on that character and nothing more. Hell, a real Punisher movie would be covered in blood and exposed brain matter. Jane COULD have been a very good punisher with a decent script…but they didn’t have one.

Rating this below Punisher means I should avoid your opinion on any other movie.[/quote]

I have a friend that said The Punisher was awful. I happen to think it’s a bad ass movie, though I didn’t grow up following any comics
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I like Jane…so I won’t use the word “awful”, but that was NOT the punisher. He would have been a good one I think (I really like him in the Mist), but that script was weak.

Yeah, weak is a good word.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
I don’t know I felt the story was missing a lot and the characters where just thrown in there except Erik and Charles. I did enjoy the scene for scene reshot of the original X-Men in he concentration camp. All in all I wasn’t thrilled with it but it did have some good moments, cerebro being introduced, Rebecca Stamos’ cameo, the training montage(but a week? Really?). I didn’t hate it like I did X3 but it certainly isn’t my top comic movie, I would put it just over Daredevil but under the Tomas Jane Punisher as far as like factor.[/quote]

?

The Punisher was a “cute” take on that character and nothing more. Hell, a real Punisher movie would be covered in blood and exposed brain matter. Jane COULD have been a very good punisher with a decent script…but they didn’t have one.

Rating this below Punisher means I should avoid your opinion on any other movie.[/quote]

I have a friend that said The Punisher was awful. I happen to think it’s a bad ass movie, though I didn’t grow up following any comics
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I like Jane…so I won’t use the word “awful”, but that was NOT the punisher. He would have been a good one I think (I really like him in the Mist), but that script was weak.

Yeah, weak is a good word.[/quote]

Overall I enjoyed The Punisher. John Travolta is inclined to overact when playing a villain (Broken Arrow, Swordfish) but he was restrained in this. The fight scenes were great especially against The Russian. The confrontation with the guitarist was good, too.

But for a Punisher movie there was something missing and I can’t put my finger on it. Frank Castle is basically a serial killer with a moral code and I think that the villains have to sink to commercially unacceptable depths to bring us a true Punisher.

If you substitute the Brad Pitt character Mills in Seven for Frank Castle, the end of the movie is the right starting point for a movie Punisher. That’s how dark it needs to be.

Thomas Jane didn’t do a sequel because he became invested in the character and wanted to take him further. They released him from his contract.

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I wasn’t very excited to see it, but after reading this topic i will give it a shot tomorrow.

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[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
I wasn’t very excited to see it, but after reading this topic i will give it a shot tomorrow.[/quote]

The backstory makes it. The idea that the Cuban missile crisis was a mutant conspiracy is genius. The period setting makes it believable. Oliver Platt’s alien chasing ‘Man in Black’ hints that aliens are closer to home than originally thought.

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I really liked the movie, although to be fair I’ve never been a disciple of the x-men comics (I’m a DC guy). I will say that I almost wish that they’d saved Erik and Charles’ split for the second or third movies (especially seeing as this is supposedly going to be a trilogy). I agree with someone earlier who mentioned how ridiculous it was that they trained for a week and were all of a sudden pros, though I think this applies to a lot of how the movie feels- rushed. Everything happens far, far too fast. Xavier and Lensherr are supposed to be best friends for YEARS, are they not? There were a couple of things other than that which nagged a little (banshee flying while carrying summers, etc.) that I’ll suspend my disbelief for even though I almost feel inclined to gripe.

Final verdict: flawed, but excellent in spite of it.

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[quote]TheCanadian wrote:
I really liked the movie, although to be fair I’ve never been a disciple of the x-men comics (I’m a DC guy). I will say that I almost wish that they’d saved Erik and Charles’ split for the second or third movies[/quote]

Xavier and Magneto’s relationship in the movies has always been played out literally and metaphorically as a chess game, so I expect some kind of strategy through the sequels, with Magneto as leader, and Xavier as mentor with mutants changing sides.

[spoilers] Magneto taking over as king and retrieving the white queen supports the chess imagery.[/spoilers]

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Greatly enjoyed the film. As others have mentioned, it has it’s flaws and was certainly rushed but the casting was excellent, the characters interacted well with one another and there were the usual allusions to future characters/Marvel Universe that are always a pleasant surprise. Fassbender stole the show as he is known to do, but everyone performed quite well.

B+

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There were two Punisher movies, right? I am positive that Jane was in the first one (which I liked, if I recall)…but I never caught the second one. I thought that was a reboot but I’m not sure.

XFC was a great film, period. I think we’ll ALWAYS find something to nit pick about, but this film was great and had minimal Hollywood gimmick. When I say “minimal,” I mean I expect to give an…allowance for a mainstream film such as this.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Movie was great. I thought the movie flowed well, and the origins of how the characters developed was well done. I particularly liked how well they pulled off the movie setting back in the 60’s. It was very believable and nailed it in great detail.

They need to do a Magneto movie all on it’s own. [/quote]

At this point, I don’t trust anyone else to direct a serious comic book film except for Christopher Nolan and Jon Favreau. This director might pull of a TRUE “Origins” movie, but I would still expect it to pander to the laymen. I dont’ want that in an “Origins” movie. Not a chance.

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Oh…and Lenny Kravitz daughter is the shit!

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Oh…and Lenny Kravitz daughter is the shit![/quote]

She was the least attractive female lead in the film IMO