[quote]pat wrote:
I think somebody should read his book and then tell us about it…
I couldn’t take it, the picture of him ass pounding a 10 year old in the shower loud enough to be heard out side the shower with the shower running, is burned into my cranium… That kid probably has to wear diapers…I don’t think the corn hole could recover from abuse like that[/quote]
I’m so sorry I had to read this. I had missed the initial descriptions intentionally.
Hopefully ( if there can be a “hopeful” scenario ) they heard verbal noises, not the other.
[quote]pat wrote:
I think somebody should read his book and then tell us about it…
I couldn’t take it, the picture of him ass pounding a 10 year old in the shower loud enough to be heard out side the shower with the shower running, is burned into my cranium… That kid probably has to wear diapers…I don’t think the corn hole could recover from abuse like that[/quote]
I’m so sorry I had to read this. I had missed the initial descriptions intentionally.
Hopefully ( if there can be a “hopeful” scenario ) they heard verbal noises, not the other.
And on that note I’m out again.[/quote]
Weak. I didn’t even get to the dripping semen part…
He gave a commencement speech in 2007, and he encouraged listeners to work with children in the same manner he had.
He remained on campus, he remained involved with children, even after Paterno and the administrators knew of the allegations:
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Then-graduate assistant Mike McQueary, in March 2002, told Paterno he’d seen Sandusky engaged in sexual activity with a child ? activity McQueary would later describe to a state grand jury as rape.
Within weeks, Curley banned Sandusky from bringing children onto campus.
Yet, Sandusky continued to conduct football camps at Penn State’s satellite campuses and as recently as last week was listed on the school’s website as “assistant professor emeritus of physical education.”
Yet, the grand jury presentment states Sandusky brought a child from The Second Mile to a preseason football practice in 2007.
Yet, you can log onto YouTube and see Sandusky being interviewed on a 2007 Penn State pregame show (WHVL) on the grounds of Beaver Stadium.
Yet, you hear ex-players such as Paul Posluszny ? who went to the NFL in 2006 ? verifying that Sandusky was a regular presence around the football team long after 2002.
“He was done coaching in '99, but he was still visible, still around,” Posluszny told the Florida Times-Union. [/quote]
[quote]pat wrote:
I think somebody should read his book and then tell us about it…
I couldn’t take it, the picture of him ass pounding a 10 year old in the shower loud enough to be heard out side the shower with the shower running, is burned into my cranium… That kid probably has to wear diapers…I don’t think the corn hole could recover from abuse like that[/quote]
I’m so sorry I had to read this. I had missed the initial descriptions intentionally.
Hopefully ( if there can be a “hopeful” scenario ) they heard verbal noises, not the other.
And on that note I’m out again.[/quote]
unfortunately Pat is reporting it correctly. he heard the noises and not voices… gross as fuuuuuuuuh
He gave a commencement speech in 2007, and he encouraged listeners to work with children in the same manner he had.
He remained on campus, he remained involved with children, even after Paterno and the administrators knew of the allegations:
[quote]
Then-graduate assistant Mike McQueary, in March 2002, told Paterno he’d seen Sandusky engaged in sexual activity with a child ? activity McQueary would later describe to a state grand jury as rape.
Within weeks, Curley banned Sandusky from bringing children onto campus.
Yet, Sandusky continued to conduct football camps at Penn State’s satellite campuses and as recently as last week was listed on the school’s website as “assistant professor emeritus of physical education.”
Yet, the grand jury presentment states Sandusky brought a child from The Second Mile to a preseason football practice in 2007.
Yet, you can log onto YouTube and see Sandusky being interviewed on a 2007 Penn State pregame show (WHVL) on the grounds of Beaver Stadium.
Yet, you hear ex-players such as Paul Posluszny ? who went to the NFL in 2006 ? verifying that Sandusky was a regular presence around the football team long after 2002.
“He was done coaching in '99, but he was still visible, still around,” Posluszny told the Florida Times-Union. [/quote][/quote]
The child Sandusky brought to the 2007 preseason practice was Victim 1. Curly admitted in grand jury testimony that the only action they had taken in response to an eyewitness report of the rape of a 10 year old boy was “unenforceable”.
[quote]concrete wrote:
The child Sandusky brought to the 2007 preseason practice was Victim 1. Curly admitted in grand jury testimony that the only action they had taken in response to an eyewitness report of the rape of a 10 year old boy was “unenforceable”.
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how is banning someone from your facilities “unenforceable”??? I dont understand that. They ban him, if he comes back they can get a restraining order to keep him away, if he comes back again they have him arrested. Doesnt sound like an impossible task for a powerful university like Penn State.
[quote]concrete wrote:
The child Sandusky brought to the 2007 preseason practice was Victim 1. Curly admitted in grand jury testimony that the only action they had taken in response to an eyewitness report of the rape of a 10 year old boy was “unenforceable”.
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how is banning someone from your facilities “unenforceable”??? I dont understand that. They ban him, if he comes back they can get a restraining order to keep him away, if he comes back again they have him arrested. Doesnt sound like an impossible task for a powerful university like Penn State.[/quote]
They never banned him. They only banned him from bringing children.
[quote]concrete wrote:
The child Sandusky brought to the 2007 preseason practice was Victim 1. Curly admitted in grand jury testimony that the only action they had taken in response to an eyewitness report of the rape of a 10 year old boy was “unenforceable”.
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how is banning someone from your facilities “unenforceable”??? I dont understand that. They ban him, if he comes back they can get a restraining order to keep him away, if he comes back again they have him arrested. Doesnt sound like an impossible task for a powerful university like Penn State.[/quote]
It’s unenforceable because of the predicament the president was in.
Ban him. He ignores it. If you take it as far as getting him arrested it will become public knowledge that he is banned. Then people will ask questions as to why he got banned. That forces the president to reveal the reason or lie further, I guess.
Once the initial cover up took place, PSU backed itself into a corner. Not a moral corner, a PR corner.
This is just more circumstantial evidence that PSU higher ups were aware of what went down.
[quote]concrete wrote:
The child Sandusky brought to the 2007 preseason practice was Victim 1. Curly admitted in grand jury testimony that the only action they had taken in response to an eyewitness report of the rape of a 10 year old boy was “unenforceable”.
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how is banning someone from your facilities “unenforceable”??? I dont understand that. They ban him, if he comes back they can get a restraining order to keep him away, if he comes back again they have him arrested. Doesnt sound like an impossible task for a powerful university like Penn State.[/quote]
They never banned him. They only banned him from bringing children.[/quote]
I was getting at what Bonez just said above. It was unenforceable because they didnt want to enforce it (because of what would come out of it)
[quote]concrete wrote:
The child Sandusky brought to the 2007 preseason practice was Victim 1. Curly admitted in grand jury testimony that the only action they had taken in response to an eyewitness report of the rape of a 10 year old boy was “unenforceable”.
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how is banning someone from your facilities “unenforceable”??? I dont understand that. They ban him, if he comes back they can get a restraining order to keep him away, if he comes back again they have him arrested. Doesnt sound like an impossible task for a powerful university like Penn State.[/quote]
I don’t understand why it’s unenforceable either. The only mention of it in the grand jury summary is on the bottom of page 11.
“Both the graduate assistant and Curley testified that Sandusky himself was not banned from any Penn State buildings and Curley admitted that the ban on bringing children to the campus was unenforceable”
[quote]concrete wrote:
I don’t understand why it’s unenforceable either. The only mention of it in the grand jury summary is on the bottom of page 11.
“Both the graduate assistant and Curley testified that Sandusky himself was not banned from any Penn State buildings and Curley admitted that the ban on bringing children to the campus was unenforceable”[/quote]
Because you can’t enforce it without disclosing the reason behind it. People are going to start asking questions if Sandusky is escorted off campus and there’s a 10 year old boy with him. As someone alluded to a few posts back, it’s not legally or operationally unenforceable, it’s unenforceable because of the PR maelstrom that it will cause.
this is unfortunate and bringing back memories of Theo Fleury/Graham James. Embarrassing how this stuff still can get swept under a rug these days and totally mind boggling to think that eventually one day one of the victims will speak out, then a bunch, and yet these sicko’s still do it. Fuckin’ crazy disease these people have.
And now I see on the news about the ‘small minority’ of Paterno supporters causing riots?? I respect Paterno as a coach, but I think the best thing would of been to have resigned and forego all this nonsense now, which is totally shifting the attention from the victims/justice to him.
‘Hey Joe, where you going with that gun in yo’ hand’
[quote]concrete wrote:
I don’t understand why it’s unenforceable either. The only mention of it in the grand jury summary is on the bottom of page 11.
“Both the graduate assistant and Curley testified that Sandusky himself was not banned from any Penn State buildings and Curley admitted that the ban on bringing children to the campus was unenforceable”[/quote]
Because you can’t enforce it without disclosing the reason behind it. People are going to start asking questions if Sandusky is escorted off campus and there’s a 10 year old boy with him. As someone alluded to a few posts back, it’s not legally or operationally unenforceable, it’s unenforceable because of the PR maelstrom that it will cause.
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If what you state is true, the implications are stunning. Joe Paterno wasn’t the most powerful man on the Penn State campus, Jerry Sandusky was. By bringing a child on campus in defiance of the ban, he was wantonly flaunting his power.
