[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Nah this is my first cycle, I was just able to put on weight very easily. Went from 160-240 in 4 years totally natural, my dads side of the family is really big and athletic so thats probably who I got it from. As for calories idk, I just eat 6 times a day high protein/medium carbs and drink 24 glasses of skim milk along with 120g’s of protein daily in shakes.
As for not seeing a doctor now, I seem to be improving somewhat, but if it worsens at all Il def say something. And this is my first cycle btw, been wanting to compete early so after i built a good natural base I decided it was time to get to that next level. Lets just hope I didn’t get fucked over haha[/quote]
so in four yrs of training you supposedly made all these natural gains “yeah o.k. we all believe ya” but if by some chance that is true, then your a greedy retard strength mofo why would you potentially fuck up all you have achieved naturally
kid grow up and listen to some of these adults here go see a doctor btw…your mommy is gonna take away your allowance
LOL hangiron your an idiot. Im a “greedy strength mofo” hahaha that just made my day. And why would I fuck up all I gained naturally? explaination plz? And since you are obviously to dumb to read, I said I’m seeing a doctor tonight. So mr adult, go suck a cock. The reason I started AAS at this age is b/c like I have stated 100000 times, I want to compete in a show soon.
Just b/c you have shit genetics and your deit and gains suck, dont be pissed at me. And why would I lie about me being natural for that time? I came out in the open and asked for cycle advice on the forums, so obviously I’m not trying to hide anything. So if you are done spouting out the “go see a doctor” thing, fuck off.
So here are my main issues with you:
you’re an ironworker. Do you even have a high school diploma? Probably not, so you are in no position to offer me advice
You weigh 167 lbs after 10 years of training. Nice job, so you gain about a pound per year? Nice! so once again your advice holds no bearing
this post is obviously geared towards AAS users who may have experienced the same thing I have. And I hope to God at your weight you havent used AAS or I’d be embarassed for you. So once AGAIN you have nothing to say to me
4)Yah, your right im in college so i get $180 a month. Thats adds up to $2160 a year.( did the math for you b/c since you dropped out of HS I didnt know if you could yourself) I bet my allowance is more than your annual income. Am I right?
You wouldn’t have even suggested going to a doctor if you hadn’t read the previous posts b/c you’re an idiot. Glad you got your total posts number up though! Congrats!
So in closing, stfu and go weld something, thx bud
First, don’t knock welding, welding shit is cool as fuck and pays too. That and don’t knock anyones profession in life, that is just ignorant, especially, when you have none of your own. Now, back to the subject, go see a doctor because you have an infection.
Go see the medical on campus as you pay for it, right. Yes, you can still use the gear after you filter it with a whatman .45 micro meter pore size filter 25 mm diameter. Google it and you will find it. Filter it into sterile viles. Google that and you will find those, too.
I’ve gotta say some of you guys don’t really give waylander a break. He’s already run the gauntlet here in an earlier post with a pretty good attitude about it, a lot better than some other posters lately, and he was given plenty of shit about being “too young.” He just now explained his doctor issue. Cut the guy a break. I don’t know if you saw his pictures earlier, but he is pretty huge and ripped, and, genetics, AAS, or whatever, he looks better than 98% of the posters on this website.
He’ll he looks better than me, and I’ve been at this game for years. This website is great for catching a ration of shit, it weeds out the thin skinned ones, but this issue seems pretty dead to me. He doesn’t need to hear the same shit 87 different ways.
[quote]GetSwole wrote:
All that aside, I’m genuinely interested in how your talk with pops goes tonight, let us know.[/quote]
Me too. Though I’ll say this one more time: I wouldn’t dooooo iiiiiit! You may be vastly overrating your father’s reaction. If you think we gave you shit…
And as a point of reference, I have tried breaching the subject twice with my parents. Once with my father, once with my mother. I can promise you I will never, ever try again. There is too much brainwashing, even of otherwise intelligent people, in America. Oh, and I’m 32, so getting older doesn’t change a thing.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
I don’t know if you saw his pictures earlier, but he is pretty huge and ripped, and, genetics, AAS, or whatever, he looks better than 98% of the posters on this website.
Gotta agree with Cortes. It will probably be as well received by them as, say, you telling your mom you do heroin.
And, unfortunately, I’m completely serious about that.
Hope they don’t cut out off your money or anything else. Your best bet is probably to readily have some research to back it up when you try to defend them as safe.
well see my dad owns an anti-aging clinic. So he knows a lot about them, had to take classes on them and whatnot. He knows I love bodybuilding, and he kind of pleads with me not to take them, but we have discussed it a lot. Im sure he will be upset, but the fact that it won’t be completely coming out of the blue will help. I had a 30 minute conversation with him about safe steroid use the other day, and now my arm is fucked up. Oh the irony!
He comes home in an hour after a 12 hour day in the emergency room lol so that won’t help. But il post up here when I have this lil talk haha. Man its so fucked up though, check this out. 2 days ago the swelling was at my elbow, the next day its mid forearm, the next day its about 3 inches from my wrist. Today the swelling reached my wrist, and I just looked at it and now its about 2 inches into my hand. WTF!!! lol. ok im officially rly worried now lol. I pray to God that my dad has injectable anti-biotics in our house ><
and for the record, sorry if I am obnoxious at times. But I get really pissed when people say the same thing over and over. I understood that i needed to see a doc after about the first 3 posts. Having like 5 more people come in, say the same thing, and throw in an insult just for good measure really just gets on my nerves.
However, I do not regret what I said to ironworker. Other than knocking on his profession and intelligence lol, the rest of my issues with him were completely logical.
Its along the same lines that you’re not gonna take diet advice from someone who has been over weight for years, you’ll take it from a guy who leads a healthy life style and looks good. The same thing applies here.
And for those who think I lied about using AAS during my first 4 years (ironworker), I would like you to go look at pwrbarboys rate my physique post. He said gained 70 lbs “naturally” (cough) at 5’7. Im 6’2 and I did gain 75-80 lbs naturally. Plz go compare his pics to mine, and you can see a complete difference in a Natural(me) vs an AAS user(pwrbarboy).
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
and for the record, sorry if I am obnoxious at times. But I get really pissed when people say the same thing over and over. I understood that i needed to see a doc after about the first 3 posts. Having like 5 more people come in, say the same thing, and throw in an insult just for good measure really just gets on my nerves. However, I do not regret what I said to ironworker. Other than knocking on his profession and intelligence lol, the rest of my issues with him were completely logical.
Its along the same lines that you’re not gonna take diet advice from someone who has been over weight for years, you’ll take it from a guy who leads a healthy life style and looks good. The same thing applies here. And for those who think I lied about using AAS during my first 4 years (ironworker), I would like you to go look at pwrbarboys rate my physique post. He said gained 70 lbs “naturally” (cough) at 5’7. Im 6’2 and I did gain 75-80 lbs naturally. Plz go compare his pics to mine, and you can see a complete difference in a Natural(me) vs an AAS user(pwrbarboy).[/quote]
Yeah, I understand, but if you follow my advice on how to clean your gear, it should be ok to reuse. Is it of Mexican origin because that shit is usually dirty? That and I though going to med clinic at your school was a pretty good/different idea. It seems you have had a burning urge to tell your dad about the steroid usage, but didn’t have the opportunity, whatever the son/father issue was. I have a feeling you’re using the opportunity to go out into the world on your own and need the impetus.
Strangely, in this world you will see the unbelievable with regard to nutrition. My college biology head is a nutritionist and is a fat slob. Because of this and the fact I suck at chem, I've changed directions to physics. I see it all the time with personal trainers too. Most of them are fat slobs, but they still get clients that are also fat slobs.
yah thx coloradosteve, but after this occurence, I’m gonna give AAS a rest for a few years.
Well boys heres the update: talked to my dad and he took it pretty well. However, After looking at my arm he got rly worried and is taking me to the hospital tonight. Please keep me in your prayers guys, Il update you when I get back.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
yah thx coloradosteve, but after this occurence, I’m gonna give AAS a rest for a few years.
Well boys heres the update: talked to my dad and he took it pretty well. However, After looking at my arm he got rly worried and is taking me to the hospital tonight. Please keep me in your prayers guys, Il update you when I get back.[/quote]
Glad your dad took it well. Maybe it helped that you were in distress and certainly the anti-aging specialization would shape his outlook.
Yea, goodluck man. I really am not sure it’s your gear, considering you responded saying you had 5 injections and this was your first major problem. Let us know how you turn out. Like Cortes said, you’ve been pretty receptive to this criticism, and have taken it kindly. Good for you. Keep us posted on your status. Maybe it might even be worth taking the doctor a sample of your gear, since I’m assuming you’ll tell him that you were “on”.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
LOL hangiron your an idiot. Im a “greedy strength mofo” hahaha that just made my day. And why would I fuck up all I gained naturally? explaination plz? And since you are obviously to dumb to read, I said I’m seeing a doctor tonight. So mr adult, go suck a cock. The reason I started AAS at this age is b/c like I have stated 100000 times, I want to compete in a show soon.
Just b/c you have shit genetics and your deit and gains suck, dont be pissed at me. And why would I lie about me being natural for that time? I came out in the open and asked for cycle advice on the forums, so obviously I’m not trying to hide anything. So if you are done spouting out the “go see a doctor” thing, fuck off.
So here are my main issues with you:
you’re an ironworker. Do you even have a high school diploma? Probably not, so you are in no position to offer me advice
You weigh 167 lbs after 10 years of training. Nice job, so you gain about a pound per year? Nice! so once again your advice holds no bearing
this post is obviously geared towards AAS users who may have experienced the same thing I have. And I hope to God at your weight you havent used AAS or I’d be embarassed for you. So once AGAIN you have nothing to say to me
4)Yah, your right im in college so i get $180 a month. Thats adds up to $2160 a year.( did the math for you b/c since you dropped out of HS I didnt know if you could yourself) I bet my allowance is more than your annual income. Am I right?
You wouldn’t have even suggested going to a doctor if you hadn’t read the previous posts b/c you’re an idiot. Glad you got your total posts number up though! Congrats!
So in closing, stfu and go weld something, thx bud[/quote]
LOL that was vicious, but I would have done it too! Good Stuff, Good Stuff.