I think @kleinhound may be closer to 180 but I get your point and agree, both of them are beasts.
Well now I really feel bad about myself. Thanks
Yeah, I know. Somewhere along the line it went from âhow much should I measureâ to âhow much CAN I measureâ. I know there was some analysis of Mr America winners for that.
But guys have been measuring their wrists for over a century trying to figure this out, lol.
Is there anything that backs this up ? Iâve never read that it was possible to increase the size of your bones, at least not once youâre an adult
âAppositional growthâ is the relevant search term.
Even though bones stop growing in length in early adulthood, they can continue to increase in thickness or diameter throughout life in response to stress from increased muscle activity or to weight. The increase in diameter is called appositional growth. Osteoblasts in the periosteum form compact bone around the externalbone surface. At the same time, osteoclasts in the endosteum break down bone on the internal bone surface, around the medullary cavity. These two processes together increase the diameter of the bone and, at the same time, keep the bone from becoming excessively heavy and bulky.
https://training.seer.cancer.gov/anatomy/skeletal/growth.html
Edit: it still comes back to
I have the skeletal structure of a geishaâŠminus my obliques.
What stood out to me about âMy Standardâ is the 34" waist on a 5â8" man. I doubt this person would be close to what we consider lean. At least 15% body fat, or more. But, IMO, a 5â8" lean 170lb man would be quite impressive. Maybe not winning bodybuilding contests, but surely wouldnât look out of place.
Good pick up, I didnât notice the waist. 34 does seem a little thick at that weight. LOL
Iâd be a lot more worried about a really fast metabolism than ankle bones.
My wrists are 7â. Is this good or am I doomed to be DYEL?
It depends on what type of shoe you are holding and how wide your clavicles are ?
It is a white-soled Sketcher that has been stained green from mowing the lawn. I donât have an exact clavicle measurement but itâs probably around the length of 2 Mr. Coffee machines next to each other lengthwise. My goal physique is 1974 Arnold but I would settle for â73 Arnold if you think my genetics arenât quite there based on the given information.
My wrists are enormous.
Make of that what you will.
lmfao Quality
Same, I am sure that is the sole factor in my ability to build muscle over all the years.
I move to make this a new standard unit of measurement.
Honestly, what rabbit hole do folks have to go down to latch onto this âtopicâ (for lack of a more descriptive term)? Like many here, I have been studying information on lifting/bodybuilding for 2 decades now and in the last year is the only time I have seen this come up (at least twice).
Attempting to answer that is a rabbit hole on its own Lots of probable factors.
I think a lot stems to a lack of good guidance when people start out. They know very little, and donât know who to trust, where to look, etc. Lots of seemingly mixed messages like âI want to look better, like X celebrityâ while also hearing how bad celebrity workouts are. âI want to be biggerâ mixed with âI donât want to look like a bodybuilder (or train or act like one)â as well as âI donât want to look like a powerlifterâ.
But I think thereâs also probably another simple explanation too. Theyâre familiar with math (because of school), and not usually familiar with sports or lifting (because of modern life). It seems easy to latch onto âcalculatorsâ, and the internet is rife with those. Frame size calculators, genetic potential calculators, maximum muscle potential, strength standards and strength ratios, calorie calculators, etc. Confusing the map for the territory.
Plus there really was this whole thing talking about ideal proportions, usually based off wrist/ankle measurements. Writers from the âgolden ageâ of bodybuilding talked about it a lot. I think that was about the last time that the aesthetic ideals of the average person (today) overlapped with the actual bodybuilding/strength training world.
Itâs also always a question asked by people with skinny wrists E.g., I have skinny wrists, am I doomed to be skinny forever? Is it even worth trying?
Lots of factors.
fml
Hard to believe with all the great guys out there, but I guess when âCoach Gregâ and AthleanX are the first ones that shows up on youtube - youâre going to get a bad path.
I mean, I learned a lot by reading Muscles magazines for about 12 years straight, but I learned more from actually going into the gym and lifting.
I have not once seen a guy who eats properly and trains hard (doesnât have to be anywhere near optimal) not be able to put on decent size. Plus the âworth it or notâ argument is BS in the 21st century. Almost every study says resistance training is nothing but beneficial.
As someone who loves math - calculators are absolutely pointless if you donât understand the math/reasoning behind them.
Life lesson right there.