schwarzfahrer wrote:
“Nope, that is unproven. Your speaking out of your ass. By “the Germans” you mean some german companies, which, by the way, do nothing that american companies wouldn’t do.(Nontheless, shame on them.)”
I love picking on a nationalisitc german. You guys are so easy.
Ok, are you telling me that the people who own the corporations/work for the corporations aren’t german?
Are you one of those “businesses aren’t the people” kind of guy?
Oh, well, horseshit. They knew exactly what they were doing.
As for “American companies doing the same,” nice little dodge.
The fact is: germany supplied the largest number of arms to saddam’s regime. When the butcher’s bill came due for your transgressions, you hid behind the United States. Worse, you had the audacity to look down your prussian noses at us.
Shame on you.
Period.
Again, you can go ahead and look up my past posts. It’s all there with references.
“It is a bit ridiculous trying to generalize “the Germans”, who are a rather pacifistic bunch”
Really?
You must not know your history. Do you want raw numbers of killed? Do you want maimed? Do you want psychological trauma numbers?
If you say yes, then there will be MANY zeros being typed.
“and who, for instance, discuss endlessly if it’s OK to ship weapons to Turkey. That’s something the US would never do.”
Um, what?
Didn’t have the qualms about shipping tons of weapons to saddam.
Methinks your “discussions” might be part and parcel of a guilty conscience.
Nice try.
“Yes, go on until you get some serious reasons. The US would never have gone to war because of such crap.”
You have real problems. You are way off base here. Every one of those reasons are justification for war.
Imagine if the french hired hitmen to try and kill your Chancellor.
Don’t try to tell me your thugs wouldn’t be taking a leak on the eiffel tower within the week.
I know, you are “pacifist.” Given your history, you guys are probably arming to the teeth right now.
“As tyrannic as Saddam was, there’s no way America would pay billions of dollars and thousands of lives because the Iraqi dictator anounced a price for Bush’s head during war or broke a cease fire agreements (which they never agreed on officially anyway).”
You are a very foolish person. Here is The Leader of our Senate discussing the Cease fire: (please note specific dates and times.)
The cease-fire agreement obligated Iraq to accept unconditionally the voluntary destruction, removal, and rendering harmless–under international supervision–of all nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons, and all stocks of agents, and all related subsystems and components, and all research, development, support, and manufacturing facilities.
The cease-fire agreement was ratified and approved on April 3, 1991, by the U.N. Security Council in Resolution 687. That resolution, which is still in force, reaffirms all 13 of the Security Council’s earlier resolutions on Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait.
In a letter delivered to the Security Council on April 6, 1991, Saddam Hussein’s regime formally accepted the terms of the cease-fire without conditions. Nevertheless, Saddam Hussein has consistently and repeatedly refused to abide by his obligations to disarm under international supervision as required in the 1991 gulf war cease-fire and succeeding United Nations resolutions, and has attacked U.S. and British aircraft lawfully enforcing these obligations almost continuously since 1991."
“Nope, they did not support Al Quaeda, in fact, Al Queada hated Saddam.”
Really? How do you know so much about them?
Just wanted to make sure you are thoroughly humiliated (I know, I’m piling on)
“Last week, King Abdullah told a Saudi newspaper that the Jordanians knew Saddam to be sheltering Zarqawi in the last years of the Ba’athist reign of terror and demanded his extradition. Saddam refused to turn Zarqawi over to the Jordanians. Abdullah had been clear on that point; the Ba’athists had not claimed they could not reach him, but that they flatly refused to hand him over.”
This was from FrontPage magazine. If you care to open your mind, you can do your own search. There are so many sources you can cross reference.
Let me state it simply (for the simple): Abdullah asked saddam for zarqawi. saddam harbored zarqawi. saddam refused to turn him over for justice.
saddam and zarqawi sitting in a tree…
saddam and al qaeda K I S S I N G.
“Although, he did support palastinian terrorists-which is again no reason to start a war”
Wow, you sure do excuse saddam’s evil at every turn.
I ask you directly (again) do you support saddam? Do you support osama bin laden? Do you support the terrorists in Iraq?
Yes or no will do.
“Now that’s humour. Relax guy, don’t be so tense. Nobody’s gonna invade you.”
I was thinking of asking Bush to remove the American troops from germany. Since you guys do such a knock-up job controlling your base impulses, there is probably very little chance of another horrendous war breaking out.
JeffR