Greetings, new here.
Been on Test C for a little over a year. 100mg/wk. And Clomid 25mg twice per week.
Dr’s thoughts were the clomid will prevent shut down and maintain function. Yeah, I’m not sold based off the actions of the Test C. Thoughts? I apologize, I know this has been a topic before. Didn’t know if anyone had a recent experience.
Many thanks in advance!
You’re most shutdown (98%) at the 6 week mark, but will take decades to be 100% shutdown. If your doctor said that taking clomid with TRT will prevent shutdown, it’s not supported by medical science.
Your doctor is operating outside his scope of medicine, many are, rare you actually find one that is an expert.
Thanks so much. I’m ditching the Clomid. I don’t feel great on it. And, from what you have articulated it wouldn’t help “preserve” fertility anyways, correct? Granted, I have no semen test as a base line. I realize you have no crystal ball. It just doesn’t seem supported that Clomid will persevere fertility. (While on Testosterone.)
I want my co pay back. Hahahaha
Clomid blocks estrogen in various organs throughout the body, including the brain. This if anything take away benefits of TRT, which is healthy estrogen levels.
In most cases, no. Some have shown a very small amount of pituitary functionality. It’s debatable if it actually helped with fertility.
There’s no evidence for this. But if your doctor has some, would you ask him for it? Or, if you can get blood work showing LH/FSH currently while taking both, that would be great too.
I will ask my next follow up for some evidence. However, it seems his thought as you know is the Clomid will prevent full shutdown. I know I’m repeating myself. I “think” this is his poor understanding of TRT. This is backed up by what I have ran across here.
As far as the LH/FSH. I’m stopping the Clomid. It really seems to jack with my mood. My next lab draw is a few months from now. So I’m sure that wouldn’t be accurate.
Not trying to be difficult. Just the Clomid sucks.
For some more backstory. I started in 2021 with just Clomid 25mg every day. Total testosterone went from the 300’s to the 700’s. However, I felt like crap. I continued this for maybe 6 months.
Then started with Test C 100mg (0.5) once a week. With 25mg of Clomid twice a week. This brought my total to 1538 ng/dl. With a free level of 384 pg/dl. My estrogen started to creep up a bit. But was still within limits. PSA and H&H remained good.
I don’t have access to all my records. This is just what I have jotted down.
Oh, well yeah I don’t keep taking it if you don’t feel good lol. I see so many clinics that can’t access cheap hCG anymore substituting cheap SERMs instead, and telling their patients they work, just as good when there really isn’t any evidence for that. I just think it’s kind of concerning.
Your doctor won’t be able to give you the evidence you seek, which is why @swoops39 asked you to ask your doctor, so you can see your doctor is full of it!
When you ask him, pay attention to his body language and facial expressions, this will tell you all you need to know.
Agree, and it’s easy for me to get fired up about this.
The vast majority of my creditable information has come from places like this. I attribute this to the fact that it’s ok to say “I don’t know” here. Many doctors do not like to say, or admit that they don’t know. If anyone here is a medical professional I mean no offense that just seems to have been my experience.
In this case, I’m sure Clomid has its place in the HRT world. It just doesn’t seem that place is paired with testosterone. I like protocols that are rooted in science, not theory.
I also realize that practicing medicine is just that, practice. Leaches we’re also first round treatment for things at one point too. I am Show me the science and I will champion your cause kinda guy.
But, when looking on here with posts that include labs. Showing test C with Clomid. Returned zero, or very very near zero LH/FSH it’s not hard for me to shut the door on the Clomid/testosterone Inj idea.
Could be wrong. Just please show me.
You’re probably right, but I am genuinely curious. I’ve been collecting bloodwork from various forums, and Facebook, for guys that take TRT and a sermon. I have found one, I think it was actually posted here, where it made enough of a difference that they were able to get their partner pregnant, but that was it. And the increase was minimal.