[quote]Grimlorn wrote:
There need to be better standards to meet to become a PT. Maybe also have to get re-certified every 3-5 years at least. Just to make sure you’re still learning all the latest stuff out there and haven’t forgotten anything.[/quote]
It’s not cheap to test. Retesting will be pointless assuming you passed in the first place anyway. Latest stuff??? That’s kinda part of the problem. People trying to be revolutionary when they’re barely competent in the basics.[/quote]
Obviously they would be retested in the basics to make sure they were still competent. I meant more for nutrition knowledge as there is still a lot of stuff still being learned and you still have people out there that think fat free food is good for you and other crazy stuff.
Not advice per se, but in conversations:
“Protein is to get ripped, if you want to just drop some bodyfat, you should stop taking protein. Muscles are made of carbohydrates, so more carbs and less protein”
Skinny guy benching 20 lb DBs because he doesn’t want to get too muscular: “Do more reps with light weight and good form. Heavy weights will do nothing for you” (I was benching 180 lb in DBs while weighing 160 lb)…
[quote]Samir wrote:
tbh carbs aren’t necessary to build muscle, but also tbh, they frigging help a lot with recovery, which then allows you to build MORE muscle.
I’m pretty sure pre-agro-paleo-man spent a lot of time running, a little bit of time lifting heavy shit, probably did a lot of fighting, but wasn’t really a regular lifter and probably didn’t squat 500+ pounds.[/quote]
I agree with you on the running and the bit of lifting heavy stuff, but I don’t reckon pre agricultrial people would have done much fighting. Purely cause there was less people around back then so each tribe or group would probably have kept away from eachother
I reckon theyd have been good deadlifters… and squatting instead of being used to move and lift stuff, would be used as a rest position or for shitting.
[quote]Grimlorn wrote:
There need to be better standards to meet to become a PT. Maybe also have to get re-certified every 3-5 years at least. Just to make sure you’re still learning all the latest stuff out there and haven’t forgotten anything.[/quote]
It’s not cheap to test. Retesting will be pointless assuming you passed in the first place anyway. Latest stuff??? That’s kinda part of the problem. People trying to be revolutionary when they’re barely competent in the basics.[/quote]
Obviously they would be retested in the basics to make sure they were still competent. I meant more for nutrition knowledge as there is still a lot of stuff still being learned and you still have people out there that think fat free food is good for you and other crazy stuff.[/quote]
Gotcha. It would make more sense to take a ladder approach to testing then.
[quote]Grimlorn wrote:
There need to be better standards to meet to become a PT. Maybe also have to get re-certified every 3-5 years at least. Just to make sure you’re still learning all the latest stuff out there and haven’t forgotten anything.[/quote]
It’s not cheap to test. Retesting will be pointless assuming you passed in the first place anyway. Latest stuff??? That’s kinda part of the problem. People trying to be revolutionary when they’re barely competent in the basics.[/quote]
[quote]Grimlorn wrote:
There need to be better standards to meet to become a PT. Maybe also have to get re-certified every 3-5 years at least. Just to make sure you’re still learning all the latest stuff out there and haven’t forgotten anything.[/quote]
It’s not cheap to test. Retesting will be pointless assuming you passed in the first place anyway. Latest stuff??? That’s kinda part of the problem. People trying to be revolutionary when they’re barely competent in the basics.[/quote]
I think barely is a bit generous.[/quote]
LOL seems like it
[quote]Samir wrote:
tbh carbs aren’t necessary to build muscle, but also tbh, they frigging help a lot with recovery, which then allows you to build MORE muscle.
I’m pretty sure pre-agro-paleo-man spent a lot of time running, a little bit of time lifting heavy shit, probably did a lot of fighting, but wasn’t really a regular lifter and probably didn’t squat 500+ pounds.[/quote]
I agree with you on the running and the bit of lifting heavy stuff, but I don’t reckon pre agricultrial people would have done much fighting. Purely cause there was less people around back then so each tribe or group would probably have kept away from eachother
I reckon theyd have been good deadlifters… and squatting instead of being used to move and lift stuff, would be used as a rest position or for shitting.[/quote]
Actually (according to Steve Pinker) more primitive societies are characterized by unrelenting tribal fighting and the murder rate is up to 60%. Read that and let it sink in. (The murder rate in the US is around 5 per 100,000 or .005%) Also, tribal warfare is always genocidal in nature, seeking to exterminate the other tribe. Fair fighting is a very Western (in particular Anglo-American) concept and has, properly, no general place in such discussions. So much for the “Nble Savage”
[quote]hanban wrote:
squat to build big arms[/quote]
Hmmm, what if the original advice was more along the lines of, “squat to grow all over” but then the anti-isolation backlash tweaked/twisted the words into what you would eventually type in this thread?? Stranger things have happened.
[quote]Samir wrote:
tbh carbs aren’t necessary to build muscle,[/quote]
[quote]Samir wrote:
tbh carbs aren’t necessary to build muscle, but also tbh, they frigging help a lot with recovery, which then allows you to build MORE muscle.
I’m pretty sure pre-agro-paleo-man spent a lot of time running, a little bit of time lifting heavy shit, probably did a lot of fighting, but wasn’t really a regular lifter and probably didn’t squat 500+ pounds.[/quote]
I agree with you on the running and the bit of lifting heavy stuff, but I don’t reckon pre agricultrial people would have done much fighting. Purely cause there was less people around back then so each tribe or group would probably have kept away from eachother
I reckon theyd have been good deadlifters… and squatting instead of being used to move and lift stuff, would be used as a rest position or for shitting.[/quote]
Actually (according to Steve Pinker) more primitive societies are characterized by unrelenting tribal fighting and the murder rate is up to 60%. Read that and let it sink in. (The murder rate in the US is around 5 per 100,000 or .005%) Also, tribal warfare is always genocidal in nature, seeking to exterminate the other tribe. Fair fighting is a very Western (in particular Anglo-American) concept and has, properly, no general place in such discussions. So much for the “Nble Savage”
– jj[/quote]
Interesting. I’m going to have to look a bit deeper into that.
from what I’ve quickly gleaned before I go to work, a lot of the percentages he is using come from the agricultural and industrial eras. Plus I don’t see how any reliable information can be found on pre agricultural populations. I can’t really make a judgement though as I haven’t read his book.
This article has a great chart that shows death rates of known conflicts/wars throughout history and it shows the equivalent death rates in todays rates, It’s crazy!
[quote]Grimlorn wrote:
There need to be better standards to meet to become a PT. Maybe also have to get re-certified every 3-5 years at least. Just to make sure you’re still learning all the latest stuff out there and haven’t forgotten anything.[/quote]
A couple of the top cert orgs do require continuing education and retesting. NSCA and ACSM
Thyre have awesome resources for all their trainers.
Problem is…no gym wants trainers…they want salesman who may have a small grasp on training
And that’s why they prefer ACE or similar…
I’ve known great trainers who worked for themselves but the lure of higher income turned them into the shitty trainers everyone hates…
Its not uncommon to see a trainer deliver some results. To uninformed and deconditioned clients over 10 sessions…minimal results by using shitty methods and string them along for 10 more sessions and a new contract
Deliver small results that seem huge to the norma, couch potato and they’ll keep coming back with thei bank accounts
That’s why I will never work for another gym again
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[quote]hanban wrote:
squat to build big arms[/quote]
Hmmm, what if the original advice was more along the lines of, “squat to grow all over” but then the anti-isolation backlash tweaked/twisted the words into what you would eventually type in this thread?? Stranger things have happened.
As I remember it, Poliquin said in his column that to gain an inch on your arms you need to gain 15lbs of muscle on your whole body and squats will do that faster than anything else. Not sure if this is the origin of this advice or if I got those numbers right, but it seems logical to me (but I don’t have huge arms).
bubbleheaded bleached blonde trainer at our spa had a family of three who have not seen the outside of a mcdonalds in the last twenty years up on a fucking bosu ball doing the requisite dumbell curls . . . FAIL.
I don’t remember how the subject came up, but one day my religion class started talking about creatine. I guess I read this site too much, because I assumed that nobody still believed that creatine is “unhealthy.” Every other person in the class was saying it causes dehydration, death, etc. I just sat there and laughed at their ignorance.