Ok… so I have something crazy for you to try which I discovered by total accident. Crazy but easy and completely harmless. Get yourself some vitamin C. Take 500 to 1000mg right before bed. Drink some water with it. If you are concerned about having to get up to pee, then maybe do it an hour or so before bed. But take it close to bed.
I used to sleep like a log my whole life but my sleep for the last 4 or 5 years has been “interrupted” repeatedly and for seemingly no reason. I was waking up a whole bunch of times during the night and never feeling quite rested in the morning. Best I can tell it’s not sleep apnea, but it may be related.
So… I take Vit C when I suspect I’m coming down with something or when I think I may have been exposed to something especially during the winter. In mid-February of this year, I was around someone with the flu so I took it right before bed one night, which I’ve never done before. OMG did I sleep beautifully. Wonderful deep sleep, don’t remember waking up during the night once. Wondering if it might be coincidence or if I’d really found something, I tried it again the next night and the next after that. Like a CHARM.
I read up on it and it turns out Vitamin C is useful on some people to treat - sleep apnea. I had no idea about this and came across it only by accident. I now take 500mg every night, or 1000mg if I think I am needing a really good night’s sleep. I don’t care what the conventional wisdom about your body only using 15mg or whatever of it… I simply don’t buy it. I wouldn’t take more than 1000 a day, though. This has been life-changing for me.
On the odd night I forget to take it, I notice because I have a restless night. Try it at least once and see if it does anything for you. Good luck.
I’m on week 9 or ten. Started sleeping poorly after week 6 . Wake up horny. Couldn’t fall back asleep. Tried melatonin and magnesium with no improvement. Md upped my dose from 100 mg week for 125. Slept better last two nights. Only thing that has changed is I mastubate before bed. Not sure if it’s a fluke or if it really helps.
Wow you are with Defy and only on 80mg/wk of T? That is surprising. @80mg/wk (which is what I take) your numbers look like a typical guy not on TRT.
IMO this sleep issue is something else. Many healthy men suffer from not being able to fall a sleep or stay a sleep.
OP what is your daily stress lvl like?
Are you getting enough daily exersize to go to bed tired?
Yeah it’s a low dose but I try to opt for the lowest effective dose for things. I’m actually considering an increase to 380 iu hcg 3x a week and maybe 90 mg test
I would like to get my free T a little higher.
I began a new job in April, I work in a hospital as an occupational therapist with very slick people so it can be quite stressful at times.
I actually slept very well last night, but maybe because I didn’t have work today.
Same thing happened to me, 3am hit I’d be wide awake like clock work. i found it was certain brands of test would cause it. Switched brand and slept like a baby. Went back to the brand and sleep maintenance off again.
Could it be the oil used in test with some brands?
I was just like OP when i was on Nebido.
Waking up at 3am every night. Only thing helped me was sleeping pills.
Just curious what brand of test did you have sleep problems on and what brand did you have no sleep issues with? Anyone else have a similar experience?
3 AM is a Circadian rhythm thing. We called it “The witching hour” when I was on night shift, all the new guys would pass out at their desks. You will find 3 PM poses problems too. It’s probably the excess catecholmines from the free T waking you up.
Just hopping on here to say I am currently awake during the 3-7 am hours because of TRT
My sleep isn’t nearly as bad as it was when I first started taking T, as I was doing this several times per week, but I inevitably have some of these nights every time I change my dose. More time to get stuff done!
You can also look at pregnenolone. I cant take it later in the day. If you look at the cholesterol → hormones flow chart…there is a path of preg → prog → cortisol. Which can be beneficial if timed correctly. Otherwise, you may be hitting your cortisol spike at 3am…which is saying its to wake up.
Otherwise, as others have mentioned, theres plenty of habits to look at like eating, coffee, exercise, weight…etc. Also, the sleep apnea angle.
