Why don’t you aspirate Doing IM injections? I’ve always been scared of hitting a blood vessel in my thighs so I’ve always aspirated. I have done hcg sub q and didn’t aspirate though
Also, what’s your preferred location for sub q? I feel like abdomen is safe. I’ve done hcg in my abdomen and I felt safe doing that no problem. but for test I have no experience sub q
If you inject in legs where you were trained to, then you have nothing to worry about. You’re overthinking it all.
the pharmacist trained me for glutes but I have never felt comfortable doing that myself so I researched online and learned how to do my thighs myself IM. Im super lean though, so I have been skeptical about doing thigh injections sub q. It’s hard for me to grab enough fat. Abdomen is only place I have enough fat to grab
For those of you that have been on and off trt: have you guys experienced chest pain/tightness that radiates into your shoulder and left arm? I have been in and out of the er probably ten times in the last year with severe symptoms, that felt as if my heart was in trouble. Theyve run tests on my heart, ekg, echocardiagram, etc and my heart turns out okay, so they tell me it’s stress related. The weird part is if I drink any caffeine, inhale any smoke or nicotine, or drink any alcohol, the pain comes back with a vengeance. I’m at my wits end with this, and don’t know what avenues to look down. If anyone has experienced any of these symptoms, I’d like to hear about it and what caused it. Could my low t be to blame? High cortisol leading to adrenaline spikes?
I had chest pain/tightness that radiates down into my shoulder and left arm, the cause was high estrogen, this is the reason why men quit TRT. High estrogen will also kill erections and libido, I think you already know you’re not being monitored properly by your clueless doctors otherwise you wouldn’t be here, you’d be out enjoying life.
You don’t even have access to the proper E2 testing and even if you did your doctor would refuse testing, a perfect recipe for high E2.
Yeah I’ve been struggling for years to get decent help. So after you lowered your estrogen the pains went away? Were you on trt at the time? Did you just increase arimidex dose and that took the pain away? I’m going to try and convince my gp to work with dr crisler so I can get tuned in right
I just decreased my dosage, pain gone as I don’t require an AI as long as I’m not on a ridiculously high dosage injecting infrequently. Most don’t do well injecting weekly, most do well injecting twice weekly.
Yeah I think I’m super sensitive to estrogen because even injecting 50 mg twice a week I wasn’t feeling good. But maybe like you, my dose was just too high. 25 mg 3 times a week might be the ticket for me
Post your labs. Your problem is doctors believe TRT is giving a guy testosterone and not monitoring estrogen is a ticket to failure, problems there’s no guidelines tell your doctor what labs to order.
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I Will try and convince my doctor. The only lab he did was total test, he said the other labs weren’t important. Face palm.
He’s stupid.
Yep total quack
Update: I have some potentially exciting news. I don’t wanna get too excited to early on, but some recent adjustments in the way I administer trt has already reaped incredible benefits. To give background, I was affected by 5ar inhibitors. It’s been 8 years of hell living with this. It started when I was only 19. I was left with a shrivelled up lifeless penis, the texture and appearance changed, it shrunk up and became useless. I’m talking all the stuff that was suffered by the fin guys to the worst extent. I always figured my 5ar enzyme was messed up as my total t wasn’t super low. Anyway I finally got a decent doctor who let me plan my own protocol after giving evidence for why I needed it. I have been on trt before but I always administered IM once or twice a week and was always fed up with my results even with arimidex. Anyway, with my new doctor, I switched to EOD injections of 25 mg each, but this time I’m doing sub Q like a lot of you. After just 2 weeks, I’m seeing incredible results already. My member is starting to look like how it use to. The tissue has thickened up again, it hangs like how it use too. Healthy veins are making their way to the surface that disappeared for years. I’m getting better erections now without cialis than I was with cialis only two weeks ago. I’m guessing because of the eod injections and the sub q method, it’s allowing my body to convert less to Estradiol and more to DHT. I live in Canada, so acquiring a sensitive assay isn’t possible and no doctors will bother testing for my dht, but I’m positive my 5ar enzyme is working on this protocol. I’m excited and nervous, And hoping that my results continue and keep getting better as time goes on
Good news. Am curious, you ever find out what your shbg is?
It is possible that estradiol is slowing building up and maybe you will not know until another couple of weeks. But hopefully not.
I wanted to test for that but can’t find a doctor who will do it. I have been taking .25 arimidex with each 25 mg dose so .75 a week, and I’m starting to notice my joints are hurting today, so I’m gonna stop for a week and then try .5 a week. If the same happens I’ll reduce to .25. I have always been estrogen prone so I figure going without will yield bad results. Sucks I don’t have access to a sensitive assay
Joints could be hurting for the simple fact that your levels are in flux for 4-6 weeks so estrogen is expected to fluctuate. You can add the AI back after 6 weeks when estrogen is expected to be stable. You can dissolve Arimidex in one ounce of vodka and dose accordingly.
Can you not cross the border into US and visit labcorp?
Well then test the regular estradiol test. Whatever you can get. I would def stop the ai. For now
closest Labcorp to me is like 5 hours away. Not sure I could afford going back and forth to get labs done at this point. And sounds good I’ll stay off for now until everything stabilizes.
Yeah for sure I will just keep on the test for now. I can get a standard Estradiol test here. Just wondering if there’s a typical pattern of how far off they are compared to the real numbers