Worlds Toughest Man

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[quote]battlelust wrote:
uhhh, Zeb, did we read the same posts? You’re accusing a guy who uses a RELIGIOUS/CULTURAL SYMBOL as his avatar of not believing in god!?! Its analogous to using a cross as your avatar and then being denounced as an atheist! It seems quite clear that Sam is Asatru; a “religion” that pre-dates your carpenter buddy by around 5000 years or more. If your bloodline originates in India or Europe, then, before the forced, mass conversions of the Dark Ages, your ancestors honored the Aesir. No disrespect is intended to anyone here, just wanted to correct some misinterpretations on the faith of my ancestors.[/quote]

No disrespect, but what misinterpretations of your faith are you referring to?
I was referencing a joke clearly concerning jesus not Aesir.

-peace

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[quote]battlelust wrote:
uhhh, Zeb, did we read the same posts? You’re accusing a guy who uses a RELIGIOUS/CULTURAL SYMBOL as his avatar of not believing in god!?! Its analogous to using a cross as your avatar and then being denounced as an atheist! It seems quite clear that Sam is Asatru; a “religion” that pre-dates your carpenter buddy by around 5000 years or more. If your bloodline originates in India or Europe, then, before the forced, mass conversions of the Dark Ages, your ancestors honored the Aesir. No disrespect is intended to anyone here, just wanted to correct some misinterpretations on the faith of my ancestors.[/quote]

battlelust:

I have found that what people write on their posts to be far more relevant to what they actually believe, than any symbol that they use. Not surprising. Assuming a symbol that someone hangs around their neck (or on their screen) to actually mean more than what they say or do, is sort of like disregarding Charles Mansons crimes because he had a peace symbol dangling from his neck. Silly huh?

Speaking of silly, you state: “Your carpenter buddy” in a referece to Jesus Christ. Then you state “no disrespect is intended to anyone here.” LOL only on a message board (shaking head).

Gotta love T-Nation :slight_smile:

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You are a tad confused. You are the one who stated that I was “profiling you” based upon your then 5 posts. My response was based upon that accusation. Simply put, you are profiling yourself by spending all but one of your first few posts either attacking Christianity or defending homosexuality. I would not have suggested that you spend your time elsewhere (on this forum) had you not accused me of “profiling you.” Understand?

Aside from that specific point I don’t care how you spend your time on T-Nation. I think the mods do a great job of taking care of things like this. :wink:

Your next point: Since you had at the time only 5 posts I expended little “effort” in “analyzing” them. Especially since all but three of them were on this thread!

Next, I’m not on “your back.” Sorry you feel that I am. I was merely trying to make the point that tolerance is a good thing for everyone to exercise. Yes, even Christians are deserving of tolerance.

Finally, I can sense your frustration. However, “boo-frickety-hoo”?..LOL

Take care,

Zeb

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At least for boxers that I’ve seen George Foreman was really pretty damm tough. Far better than Tyson or Ali. Ali got extremely lucky in their fight and would lose 9 out of 10. Tyson wouldn’t even fight him when he was in his 40’s.

FYI, There were at least 5 self proclaimed messiahs (christos) around the time that Jesus supposedly existed in Rome that Roman writers talked about. Jesus wasn’t one of them. There is not a single non-christian mention of Jesus.
http://home1.gte.net/deleyd/religion/appendixd4.html

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yeah forman. and holyfield. in fact that forman holyfield was the most underated fight and closest to a real life rocky fight i’ve ever seen.

also nolan ryan is one tough dude.

and this won’t be popular but fuck it - saddam hussein . you don’t rise from nothing and take control of a country were they cut off heads for fun without having some serious nuts. closest thing i can think of to a real life tony montana.

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[quote]Jay Sherman wrote:

FYI, There were at least 5 self proclaimed messiahs (christos) around the time that Jesus supposedly existed in Rome that Roman writers talked about. Jesus wasn’t one of them. There is not a single non-christian mention of Jesus.
http://home1.gte.net/deleyd/religion/appendixd4.html[/quote]

for a guy who never existed he’s sure inspired alot of people.

man jesus has got the pr thing down !

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why o why does it come to this…

The thread was world tuffest man.

not, boo hoo, you called my messiah unreal etc etc

next you will be telling me the planet was made in 7 days. i would give it at leas a month. 1 week in the oven, 3 to cool and rest.

i hope this is the last post.

anyway, REMO…unarmed and dangerous. he could dodge bullets and pre empt gunfire by hearing tendons moving. And he could run on water.

Big J not s tuff now…eh?

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Holyfield in his late 20’s was about as tough as Foreman in his late 30’s but nothing compared to Foreman in his prime.

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[quote]Jay Sherman wrote:
Holyfield in his late 20’s was about as tough as Foreman in his late 30’s but nothing compared to Foreman in his prime. [/quote]

The toughest man on earth is:

Any man, child or woman who has a life threating disease or illness and is living though it. Fighting everyday.

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I would have to agree completely with Vash. Mostly with Jesus and Vash’s Momma!

[quote]Vash wrote:
T-nationman wrote:
1)Bruce Lee

Though certainly brought to the fore many important fitness and martial concepts, shouldn’t be on the list.

)jean Claude van damme

You should be punched in the scrotum for that one.

3)Champion UFC Fighter

Just about any of 'em.

4)Mike Tyson

One of my favorite heavyweights, at least when watching his old fights.

5)Muhammad Ali

Dayum straight. You know, that test (as he calls it) he’s undergoing? He’s kicking it’s ass. Every day.

6)Chuck Norris

That’s just a notch or two over van Damme. And that’s only because one of our black belts sparred with him “in the day.” Striking ability was above-par, but no grappling skills to claim.

7)other, name them

Attila. Dayum straight. I would also put Genghis Khan on the list.

And my grandfather. Tough old man. Works his ass off, makes tons of sacrifices. Never says it, but I know he does a hell of a lot for me.

And Jesus. He was all, “your ass is going to stick me to this heavy-ass piece of lumber, but first, you want me to carry it? Bitch, hand that over.”

And that guy who gets to the gym at 5 in the morning, busts out the chin-ups, the deadlifts, the squats, and the cleans, showers, goes to a job he hates so his family can lead a good life, comes home, spends time with his kids, helps his wife around the house, and makes sure everyone knows they are loved, protects them outside dangers, and puts his kids straight when they go wrong.

And my mother. Though not a man by any stretch of the imagination, she has to be one fo the toughest people e’er to walk the earth. To deal with raising my smart-ellick ass, a second son with Bi-Polar and depression, and a third son with Down’s Syndrome, and dealing with an absolute waste of human packing material of a husband, and still being a sweet woman for it, she would have to be.

My momma could hand Attila his ass.

In a brown paper sack.

With a heart drawn on it.[/quote]

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Get real man. I can think of hundreds of tortures (both physical and psychological),

Yeah Kookie, Like reading one of your posts!

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[quote]RoadWarrior wrote:
Atilla the Hun.[/quote]

Yeah, I heard Atilla was the shit!

I would really have to say it’s Ben Affleck because he put up w/ that latin bitch Lopez! To do that for as long as he did u have to be the Worlds Toughtest Man!

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[quote]jackzepplin wrote:
I would have to agree completely with Vash. Mostly with Jesus and Vash’s Momma!
[/quote]

Genius!

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gandhi

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Randall “Tex” Cobb.

That dude could take a punch!

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Jesus (no contest)
then maybe 2nd
Frank Dux - He was a us agent in the kgb during the cold war and fought as a kickboxer as part of his cover. According to history he won something like the most consecutive fights and had the fastest knockout (whatever that means)recorded at the time.

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[quote]Niko wrote:
Yeah Kookie, Like reading one of your posts![/quote]

…And you lived through it, koko!

See, it’s not hard to be tougher than Jesus.

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The late Ted Price,
my old sensei;
controlled the pain of his arthritis by meditation, but would do finger tip presses like this:- set of five using all fingers, then another set of five without using his pinkies, then 5 without pinkies+ ring fingers and so on until the last set of 5 just using his thumbs. BTW no rest between sets!

Ted had had his thyroid removed before I met him when I was 13, but he was lean.He introduced me to weight training at the age of 15. He tought me to shoot a rifle and handgun - he was about 5ft 3in and would shoot a 45 Magnum with one hand And hit what he aimed at, unlike me (with one hand anyway).
A true tough guy, did I say he worked as a shift fitter for over 25years?

Ted died of bladder cancer five years ago, I miss him.
Dax

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cortez and coronado…they are the nones who really conquered the us

how about geronimo and captain jack?they werent even trying to be tough…just protecting thier peeps

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[quote]maxtram wrote:
Jesus (no contest)
then maybe 2nd
Frank Dux - He was a us agent in the kgb during the cold war and fought as a kickboxer as part of his cover. According to history he won something like the most consecutive fights and had the fastest knockout (whatever that means)recorded at the time.[/quote]

somebody just watched bloodsport…

most of dux’s martial arts “accomplishments” and “military involvement” are in serious dispute. he is widely thought of as a fraud.