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Wieder, you are an ignorant fuckhead. Your mother should be slapped for birthing you.
There is a book called “when Hell Was In Session” by Retired senator Jeramiah Denton that explains in good detail what happened to the Hanoi Seven while they were in captivity.
Read that and then be ashamed of yourself, you stupid, ignorant worm.
Wayne ‘Buck’ Shelford, former captain of the mighty All Blacks rugby team, (and 6’2" 240 pounds of super-fit PT instructor in the New Zealand Navy), had his scrotum sliced open by one of his opponents’ cleats during a test match against France. One of his testicles was dangling outside of his scrotum. He pushed it back it. At halftime, he had the team doctor sew his scrotum back up without any anesthetic as he didn’t want to dull himself in any way. He returned to the field to play the rest of the match, which the All Blacks won.
World’s toughest? I don’t know, but that’s a tough mutha.
[quote]rg73 wrote:
Imbrondir wrote:
2) Leif Erikson. Crossed the atlantic to america 1000 years ago, when everybody “knew” about the existence of monsters in the ocean. The world was also flat, so if he sailed abit too far, he’d tip over the edge. Oh, and have you seen those old viking ships they used? With respect to Columbus, which I think did a REALLY brave deed, compared to this mad man, he was a pussy.
A lot of Vikings did this. And probably Egyptians, Phoenicians, Chinese and anyone else with a boat. Nevermind the folks that colonized the Pacific. And no one actually thought the world was flat then. The Greeks had already accurately calculated the cirumference of the globe like two thousand years before. Tough, sure. Uniquely tough? Nah. As tough as any sailor in history. Except Columbus. Big pussy. Liked to torture young Indian boys, so fuck him.
[/quote]“Probobly” Egyptians and Phoenicians dosn’t count. I believe the egyptians had mapped somewhere in west norway as the end of the world. The chinese could almost go by foot to america. And I doubt many knew much about the calculation done by the greeks. 2000 years before btw? Like in 1000 before christ? Wow, I didn’t know. The colonization of the pacific is quite impressive though, thinking about it. I wonder how they even thought about doing that crazy shit. The grass will be greener if we sail long enough?
As already stated, he already knew what would happen, and could with ease have walked away. Rome fell within a few centuries, however the ideals of christ is still highly alive even today.
50 cent. Yeah, I said it.
Being crucified wasn’t even the worst of what Jesus suffered. What he went through at Gethsemane is more pain than any man will ever know.
Bringing up rugby players:
A player on the UW-Whitewater team went to the last game of the season wearing a sling for his broken collarbone (broken during the game the week before), had a severed nerve in his right arm (also from a previous game), and bruised ribs, removed the sling then proceeded to play in the A-side match where he broke his neck and paralyzed the right side of his upper body, continued to play dislocating both shoulders, breaking his other (left) collarbone, and receiving a concussion. He took his one-minute of injury time after the concussion and then scored twice and made both of the after-try kicks (one from the farthest angle). After the A-side match he went on to immediately play in the B-side match where he dislocated his left shoulder again and received another concussion. He followed all of this up by having to go through his rookie initiation, which I won’t go through the details of. He went to the emergency room two weeks later when the pain in his body didn’t seem to be getting any better, despite having his gf rub some icy hot on his neck, and his right arm didn’t work at all.
Regards,
Sensless
[quote]Imbrondir wrote:
Man, the original list truely suck. I think we’ll have to look back in history for men not beeing raised in a time of television, pre-made meals, warm showers, to find the actual toughest guys ever. Even with SEAL training 
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William Wallace! If he was half the bad ass he was in braveheart, I can’t imagine competitors.
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Leif Erikson. Crossed the atlantic to america 1000 years ago, when everybody “knew” about the existence of monsters in the ocean. The world was also flat, so if he sailed abit too far, he’d tip over the edge. Oh, and have you seen those old viking ships they used? With respect to Columbus, which I think did a REALLY brave deed, compared to this mad man, he was a pussy.
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Richard Lionheart. Always thought in the old wars, everybody in first row would die no matter what. However, this King, in one of the crusades, was rumored to demand being in his front, fighting alongside his soldiers. I find it hard express how I admire that.
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Jesus.
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Achilles. Being thought of as invincible, in a time of the most battle hardened warriors by swords, could not have been a pussy.
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Jean D’Arc. Are women allowed, or is this a man only show?
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Samuel something. There were two guys especially, I’m sorry, their names I have forgotten. They organized most of the declaration of independence of america. Spitting in the face of the mightiest empire in history at it’s greatest I’d say was pretty damn tough. There was probobly lotsa great men behind it, but these two seem to have been the core.
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Atilla is allso a good one. Could someone fill me in on the story of Ghengis Kahn?
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The gladiator. Yeah I know it’s not a real story, but I can dream
To pick one… I literally cry of awe everytime I see braveheart… if atleast the base is true in that story… William Wallace gets my voice.[/quote]
I concur with the above post.
I?ll add Eric the red and Robert the Bruce
On a mano a mano basis, my two cents:
Miyamoto Musashi
Masutatsu Oyama
[quote]sensless wrote:
Bringing up rugby players:
A player on the UW-Whitewater team went to the last game of the season wearing a sling for his broken collarbone (broken during the game the week before), had a severed nerve in his right arm (also from a previous game), and bruised ribs, removed the sling then proceeded to play in the A-side match where he broke his neck and paralyzed the right side of his upper body, continued to play dislocating both shoulders, breaking his other (left) collarbone, and receiving a concussion. He took his one-minute of injury time after the concussion and then scored twice and made both of the after-try kicks (one from the farthest angle). After the A-side match he went on to immediately play in the B-side match where he dislocated his left shoulder again and received another concussion. He followed all of this up by having to go through his rookie initiation, which I won’t go through the details of. He went to the emergency room two weeks later when the pain in his body didn’t seem to be getting any better, despite having his gf rub some icy hot on his neck, and his right arm didn’t work at all.
Regards,
Sensless[/quote]
Yeah, to me that’s more completely stupid than tough. I’d hand a teammate his ass if he even suggested doing something like that.
The toughest man of all time would be Alexander the great. He defeated the largest empire in the world at that time, the persions. He also paved the way for the Athenians to take over the Greek states and form Rome. He defeated an army of over 500,000 solders with less the 30,000 solders. Alexander concurred more land then any General in History. He is the General which all others are compared. Even Attila the Hun and Julius Cesar paid his grave a visit. Alexander?s Generals feared him so much that they saved him a chair even after his death.
Another candidate would be Napoleon Bonaparte. He was one of the most feared and successful generals in history, only one man surpassed his achievements and that was Alexander the great
I’m going to put in here any soldier who is gets shot at, or nearly dies when a head-ringing explosive goes off nearby and still goes back to work right afterward. I’ve seen enough soldiers, including women, take a bullet or shrapnel and go right back out to the fight after it’s treated. And they don’t flinch about it either. Hell, they want to go break someone’s ass for making them bleed!! That’s some tough shit right there. Not something to hold to sawing off your arm with a pocket knife, but it’s still tough.
For the all-time toughest, that might be Lewis & Clark, who went into the unknown northwest and dealt with the elements, animals, and whatever else they faced until they reached the Pacific. Brave dudes, and tough.
Lets not forget the Mormon battalion that WALKED from Iowa to Southern Cali to fight the Mexicans. They walked right up to the battle and fought their asses off, and walked back home. Now that’s tough!!
[quote]HumanAnvil wrote:
lance armstrong has gotta be up there. as far as fighting, i wouldn’t want to have a go with randy couture.[/quote]
Armstrong had cancer before he even won his first Tour de France. He’s a tough mofo.
What adjective would you guys like to be described as at the end of your days?
World’s Toughest, Strongest, Smartest, Bravest, Virile?
Currently the Navy Seals fit the bill.
Maybe even the old 1900-1970?s NHB/MMA, when it was still illegal and had no rules (the UFC rule book is Huge, ridicules). A couple of old timers come to mind like Jack Johnson, MacIntyre, or the greatest NHB/MMA fighter in history (undefeated fighter) Glenn Epperson. Glenn is as tough as they come; he fought in no rules underground pit fighting for 7 years (he retired undefeated). He studied several different Martial arts which included Savate, Sambo, Boxing under Charlie Cotton, he even learned Jiu-jitsu/Judo form Meada whom taught the Gracie?s, and he was on the Olympic team in freestyle wrestling. He was also a Marine recon/sniper.
He?s a true bad ass.
[quote]rg73 wrote:
Imbrondir wrote:
2) Leif Erikson. Crossed the atlantic to america 1000 years ago, when everybody “knew” about the existence of monsters in the ocean. The world was also flat, so if he sailed abit too far, he’d tip over the edge. Oh, and have you seen those old viking ships they used? With respect to Columbus, which I think did a REALLY brave deed, compared to this mad man, he was a pussy.
A lot of Vikings did this. And probably Egyptians, Phoenicians, Chinese and anyone else with a boat.
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Wrong not a lot of people did this, only a few! The Vikings were the first. The Egyptians, Phoenicians, Chinese did not. Read your history dude, visit your local library.
In no particular order…
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Lance Armstrong for obvious reasons.
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Tyler Hamilton, broke his collarbone during the TDF and still competed with the best bikers in the world.
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Steve Mcnair
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Chuck Yeager
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Kurt Schilling
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Navy SEALS as well as the British SAS guys. They are crazy, and have tapped into parts of the human Psyche that Mr. Everyman would never ever find.
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That Irish guy I got in a fight with in Darwin Australia.
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Teddy Roosevelt
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Take your pick from the hundreds of people who run 100+ mile ultra-marathons.
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My Grandad, who was 5’7, 140lbs, smoked like a chimney, and was kicked in the right temple by a bull when he was in his 30’s, wasn’t expected to live out the night. Turned out he lived until he was 76, fueled by nicotine, caffiene, ground baloney sandwiches, and his devout lutheran faith. Long enough to teach me the intricacies of fishing, farming, fighting, how to take a nap when you had time, and how to confront “nincompoops” when you were being screwed over. I wish he would have taken better care of himself, but like the old saying goes, “You can always tell a German, but you can’t tell him much!” RIP Gramps
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I don’t think being a great leader that conquered the world makes an individual “tough”. If that leader actively fought in all the battles and endured the same pain of his soldiers first hand then he’d be tough. But most leaders lead from afar, not from in the middle.
Perhaps clarification on what “tough” means. I would think that enduring pain and mental torment to still function at a high level would qualify as tough.
Using the example of the “stupid” rugby player I had mentioned before. Yes, the actions were stupid, but to play through the excrutiating pain and still be successful at the task at hand I would think also qualifies as tough. You know, the ability to both deliver and take a punch.
Regards,
Sensless
[quote]hoosierdaddy wrote:
without a doubt the guy who sawed his own fucking arm off…
do this for me… look at your, stare at it, now imagine how much it would hurt to stick a blade to it… now imagine sawing your arm off, including the bone, for about 15 minutes (thats how long it took him) with a knife
world toughest fucking man
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I saw him on an interview once. When he got to the bone, he realized he wouldn’t be able to cut through it with his dull pocket knife. So do you know what he did? He straight-up broke it. Snap!
[quote]GERRY.P.SHARMAN wrote:
THRASHER WROTE-
Jesus. See “Passion of the Christ”
dude Jesus ranks right up there with Jean Claude Van Damme ,Chuck Norris ,And Steven Sagal
(FICTIONAL)
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Dude, are you serious? Jesus turned water into wine, give sight to the blind and came back to life after his death,among other things. He also took the most brutal, humiliating,longest lasting beat down in history. I’d like to see you or Van Damme take that beating w/o begging for your life. I guarantee one of these days when you’re lying crushed in car wreck or some mugger’s got a pistol in your face you’re gonna be praying to god.
[quote]mindeffer01 wrote:
Wieder, you are an ignorant fuckhead. Your mother should be slapped for birthing you.
There is a book called “when Hell Was In Session” by Retired senator Jeramiah Denton that explains in good detail what happened to the Hanoi Seven while they were in captivity.
Read that and then be ashamed of yourself, you stupid, ignorant worm.
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Thanks for keeping the debate civil there, mindeffer!
Why should I be ashamed of myself? You have your book that you believe, I have my sources that I believe. It’s called debate, it’s called difference of opinion. What it’s not called is okay to say anything about my mother.
And, just for your own edification, I’m neither stupid or ignorant. Calling someone names because they disagree with you, however, is something that could be called both. Please refrain, thank you.
BTW, good analysis over in the RDL thread. The idea of the spine being a lever against the pelvis doesn’t sound like something that’s really a good idea.
Best,
–T.