Shit. I knew putting a political figure on my list would cause someone to have a fit.
For the record, do you really think that McCain hugging someone is as contestable as Van Damme? Watch the last five minutes of Bloodsport if you wanna see a real testosterone drainer.
“If you need me. Anytime. Anywhere. I’ll be there, my friend…” [Cut to make-out scene]
Man, the original list truely suck. I think we’ll have to look back in history for men not beeing raised in a time of television, pre-made meals, warm showers, to find the actual toughest guys ever. Even with SEAL training
William Wallace! If he was half the bad ass he was in braveheart, I can’t imagine competitors.
Leif Erikson. Crossed the atlantic to america 1000 years ago, when everybody “knew” about the existence of monsters in the ocean. The world was also flat, so if he sailed abit too far, he’d tip over the edge. Oh, and have you seen those old viking ships they used? With respect to Columbus, which I think did a REALLY brave deed, compared to this mad man, he was a pussy.
Richard Lionheart. Always thought in the old wars, everybody in first row would die no matter what. However, this King, in one of the crusades, was rumored to demand being in his front, fighting alongside his soldiers. I find it hard express how I admire that.
Jesus.
Achilles. Being thought of as invincible, in a time of the most battle hardened warriors by swords, could not have been a pussy.
Jean D’Arc. Are women allowed, or is this a man only show?
Samuel something. There were two guys especially, I’m sorry, their names I have forgotten. They organized most of the declaration of independence of america. Spitting in the face of the mightiest empire in history at it’s greatest I’d say was pretty damn tough. There was probobly lotsa great men behind it, but these two seem to have been the core.
Atilla is allso a good one. Could someone fill me in on the story of Ghengis Kahn?
The gladiator. Yeah I know it’s not a real story, but I can dream
To pick one… I literally cry of awe everytime I see braveheart… if atleast the base is true in that story… William Wallace gets my voice.
a political figure wouldn’t bother me. If you’d put down say…Bob Dole, I’m with you.
But McCain…well…trading his family name and information for medical help while other GI’s died for lack of it? Screw him.
I don’t know how the topic got around to VanDamme. Although, he did get to screw Gladys Portugese…other than that…what a pussy.
Bruce Lee I think was pretty tough. Don’t know if he’s one of the toughest ever though.
Sorry. Didn’t mean to rain on your parade, I just really hate McCain.
(and I’m a Republican (well, mostly) too…).
Anyways, I would say the toughest man would have to be that dude who sawed off his own arm when he was trapped on that rock or whatever. I don’t remember the details, but damn you gotta be tough to do that. Either that or any soldier who has experienced combat. I can’t even imagine how tough that must be.
without a doubt the guy who sawed his own fucking arm off…
do this for me… look at your, stare at it, now imagine how much it would hurt to stick a blade to it… now imagine sawing your arm off, including the bone, for about 15 minutes (thats how long it took him) with a knife
world toughest fucking man
(although I do give an honorable mention to your mom)
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2) Leif Erikson. Crossed the atlantic to america 1000 years ago, when everybody “knew” about the existence of monsters in the ocean. The world was also flat, so if he sailed abit too far, he’d tip over the edge. Oh, and have you seen those old viking ships they used? With respect to Columbus, which I think did a REALLY brave deed, compared to this mad man, he was a pussy.
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A lot of Vikings did this. And probably Egyptians, Phoenicians, Chinese and anyone else with a boat. Nevermind the folks that colonized the Pacific. And no one actually thought the world was flat then. The Greeks had already accurately calculated the cirumference of the globe like two thousand years before. Tough, sure. Uniquely tough? Nah. As tough as any sailor in history. Except Columbus. Big pussy. Liked to torture young Indian boys, so fuck him.
Since when is getting crucified by Roman Legionaires tough? Tough were the mofos at Mosada who fought the Romans until the bitter end, then killed themselves so as to not get taken prisoner by the Romans. No crucifixations for them. Tough is fighting Rome, not giving yourself up to Rome.
Now sacrificing your son to the Romans, that’s tough. But, the virgin birth, martyrdom, blood sacrifice of your own kin, and the resurrection, all that was standard stuff for the gods of the Mederterranean and the Near and Middle East. Nothing tough about doing what Egyptian gods had already done 2000 years earlier. Except at least they had badass animal heads and shit.
in order to kill him, they had to feed him wine and cakes laced with potassium cyanide, then “shot Rasputin three times in the chest, back and head, and beat him around the head with a dumb-bell handle. They then tied him up in a sheet and dropped him through a hole in the ice into the river Neva. He drifted under the ice, still fighting to free himself. The finally dead body of Rasputin washed up on shore three days later. There was no water in his lungs meaning he did not drown, but died in some other way.” (Edvard Radzinsky)
Since when is getting crucified by Roman Legionaires tough? Tough were the mofos at Mosada who fought the Romans until the bitter end, then killed themselves so as to not get taken prisoner by the Romans. No crucifixations for them. Tough is fighting Rome, not giving yourself up to Rome.
Now sacrificing your son to the Romans, that’s tough. But, the virgin birth, martyrdom, blood sacrifice of your own kin, and the resurrection, all that was standard stuff for the gods of the Mederterranean and the Near and Middle East. Nothing tough about doing what Egyptian gods had already done 2000 years earlier. Except at least they had badass animal heads and shit.
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You’re right, there’s nothing tough about continuing to do what you’ve been doing, despite knowing your destiny if you should do so.
There was nothing tough about refusing to deny the charges that he could have so easily refuted, all so he COULD fulfill the destiny he knew was neccessary for saving souls. Not HIS soul mind you, THAT was never in question. He was crucified and resurrected so that others might believe and be saved. But I guess selfless suffering, all for others, is not tough at all.
I will not argue whether Egyptian “gods” did or did not perform similar miracles, but can it be said they did so selflessly, with open hearts and the best of intentions? But they’re tough, badass animal-headed guys, so I guess anything they didn’t do isn’t tough at all.
Has no-one read history, even relatively recent history. The shit that our grandparents had to do just to get food on the table. Imagine what it would have been like before countries were properly settled.
I think hats off to any MOFO who decides that they are going to trapse across unknown tracts of land with little food, or proper clothing and equipment, fighting nature in all its forms. All the guys in the list are wimps by comparison.
Chuck Yager. Baddest of all the 1950’s test pilots straight out the hollers’ of WV!
Colonel David Hackworth. Read “About Face”.
Those are just two that are fresh in my mind right now.
This could never be narrowed down to one. Use these people as inspiration the next time you find yourself complaining. Maybe you’ll realize it aint so bad after all.
While all are good choices i will have to throw Hannibal in the mix. The guy systematically defeated the Roman empire from battle to battle, often outsmarting them and defeating them with much less men to add insult to injury. he marched from modern day france (i believe) to the city of rome and then just left because he didnt feel like taking it over. this could have been the fall of the empire but the guy was such a bad ass he had better things to do. also, he wrangled elephants to do his bidding.
If we’ve heard of them, does that make them tough or does it mean that they have a good PR department and high marketability?
There have probably been countless soldiers who have dragged their unconscious buddies across battlefields despite being nearly mortally wounded themselves, fighting off pain and facing death with the greatest selfless determination that were then exploded into pieces by a land mine before we ever got to hear their stories.
Just because you survived to tell your tale doesn’t mean you were the toughest, it may just mean you got lucky.
Honestly, if you were to sit on the other side of a table from Bill Gates and try to negotiate a business deal you might walk out of that room convinced that HE’s the toughest man who ever lived.