I love it when we start out a thread discussing troop redeployments in Europe and it comes around to women shaving themselves. What is this, the fourth time this has happened now?
Come on down to Florida, and I’ll buy everybody a beer. Some of us in this thread need more than one.
[quote]lothario1132 wrote:
I love it when we start out a thread discussing troop redeployments in Europe and it comes around to women shaving themselves. What is this, the fourth time this has happened now?
Come on down to Florida, and I’ll buy everybody a beer. Some of us in this thread need more than one.[/quote]
I was not in thread but I could go for a cold one…
I don’t need no stinking beers.
I hope that was neither a bigoted statement, nor could any German reading this possibly misconstrue that I hate Germany by me not needing a beer.
[quote]drilldaddy_99 wrote:
I’m not jumping on the bandwagon dude, but, while yes there are very few women that don’t shave the pits over here, 98% do. I have to honestly say that European women are some the finest I have ever seen. The fact that they aren’t hung up on societies (US) views of sexuality and nudity makes them even more attractive.
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Yeah - you are jumping on the bandwagon. But that’s fine. It seems that that is the easy way to get a dige in around here these days.
Has anyone ever heard of a stereo-type? I didn’t just make this shit up. It’s been around for years.
I apologize to all of you out there that were born without a fucking sense of humor. Go get yourself some kleenex and try to think of some good ol’ Texas stereotypes.
I will not stop saying what I want whenever I want. If you find my speech hateful - well fuck off until you can purchase a freakin clue.
Personally I could give a shit what 98% of German women do for personal hygiene. Really.
rainjack:
Don’t let it bother you. It’s an old lefty trick. Call someone a bigot or a racist and that way you immediately put them on the defense. The actual point of the topic is lost and that way they don’t have to make a real point.
Just consider the source and forget it. You know that there are one or two people on this forum that just never make any sense anyway 
[quote]rainjack wrote:
I don’t need no stinking beers.
I hope that was neither a bigoted statement, nor could any German reading this possibly misconstrue that I hate Germany by me not needing a beer. [/quote]
Well when drink a Whisky but not a glass, take the bottle.
I am a german, too. To inform you Mister, i am not hate the U.S. citizens itself. I could not agree all things that the U.S. goverment make. It give enought U.S. peoples that think the same.
To this post i could only say. The german army was trained for 60 years in defense the country. Thats the for the other west european countries.
Also to inform you. The germans had used U.S. tanks only at the beginning of the NATO because we had not produce own, in leak of factories. Germany is at the second place on exporting weapons, of course behind the U.S.A.
back to topic:
From the strategical view it is needed to remove troops form europe. You need it at other places in the world. So the move from the Pentagon is fine. For sure the U.S. army will not remove all troops, the bases are to important for global operations.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
rainjack:
Don’t let it bother you. It’s an old lefty trick. Call someone a bigot or a racist and that way you immediately put them on the defense. The actual point of the topic is lost and that way they don’t have to make a real point.
Just consider the source and forget it. You know that there are one or two people on this forum that just never make any sense anyway ;)[/quote]
You and who else zeb? I always get a kick out of how you try to discredit people while playing the pious holier then thou role. Is that an old Pharisee trick zeb?
[quote]rainjack wrote:
He’s on your side. But I guess that’s the difference, huh?
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Remember, you’re creating these sides. For me all western nations are on one side… But for you the germans left the “good side” because we had a different opinion on the attack on the Iraque, not to forget that we were right with our estimation of the nuclear capabilities of Saddam which was the main reason for the invasion of Iraque.
[quote]ecke2 wrote:
rainjack wrote:
He’s on your side. But I guess that’s the difference, huh?
Remember, you’re creating these sides. For me all western nations are on one side… But for you the germans left the “good side” because we had a different opinion on the attack on the Iraque, not to forget that we were right with our estimation of the nuclear capabilities of Saddam which was the main reason for the invasion of Iraque.[/quote]
You know…you have something there! But since you guys were wrong about the last two world wars we didn’t listen to you…go figure.
[quote]ecke2 wrote:
Remember, you’re creating these sides. For me all western nations are on one side… But for you the germans left the “good side” because we had a different opinion on the attack on the Iraque, not to forget that we were right with our estimation of the nuclear capabilities of Saddam which was the main reason for the invasion of Iraque.[/quote]
Hey - The Germans did what the Germans did. Don’t expect us to stand up and cheer for you when you break with the country that has defended your ass for the last 60 years. Come to find ut - we didn’t need you guys after all.
But that’s easily forgotten by you, isn’t it? That’s okay. We have the right to be pissed at both you and France.
Your “Reason for the invasion of Iraq” is wrong. It’s called the War on Terror. You’ll find many here that agree with you.
There are just as many that think you are full of shit. I tend to side on the latter. There is no freakin brotherhood. Your country is the last one on earth that should be talking about the West as one country, or what ever drivel you tried to pass off.
As for me creating sides - WTF? You think I dream this stuff up? The sides were drawn by you guys.
I have no idea what kind of bug has gotten in your panties, but you make no point, other than to blame me for German women’s grooming habits, and to tell me that I am the only one that has divided Germany and the U.S.
Both points are wrong - and yet you keep plugging away. If you care to discuss the War - that is another matter, but rest assured - I did not have a hand in starting that either. Not that that fact will stop you from blaming me, but I thought I would try.
Wooohooooo! Nice topic.
Two quotes by Mark Twain that somehow seem to fit in here:
“To be a patriot, one had to say, and keep on saying, " Our country, right or wrong,” and urge on the little war. Have you not perceived that that phrase is an insult to the nation."
“One frequently only finds out how really beautiful a really beautiful woman is after considerable acquaintance with her; and the rule applies to Niagara Falls, to majestic mountains, and to mosques–especially to mosques.”
…hihi, hoho, haha!
Hijacking for one moment
Ok, Im German too and in defense of Rainjack, his argument holds more water then Eck’s. If you want to talk about popular opinion in Germany then there really arent too many. When I was growing up the US was the place to be work and shop, etc… During the past 6 years, or the adoption of the Euro trade currency, Germany has learned to be more sufficient, not necessarily nationalistic (as contradictorily Americans tend to be) but rather home economically bound. Rainjack was right ( I think it was him) that said the German economy would fall If the US wasnt there, and theres alot of truth to that, they bring in alot of commerce - for now. In my honest opinion its circumstance. Germany is going through a slight crisis and when the US came they saved them from certain problems - Thank you Bush for that at least. But at the same time, Gehardt Schroder (republican) bit off more then he can chew (Enconomist, May issue) and when the US withdraws problems will resurface if he (Schroder) doenst deal with them beforehand. We’re talking unemployment, medical spending, military spending, etc.
Back to my original point, Germany is more likely to stand along side the rest of the EU then ally with the US, cause, not that we dont need the US, we just dont need them as badly anymore. Its usually people from Berlin who have a very one sided opinion of every political issue. I dont know if thats where Eck’s from, but where I come from (Rhineland Pfaltz) We’re not so quick to blame and not nearly as blindly opinionated.
I dont know who will have it worse after the withdrawl, the EU or the Iraqis, but I hope the job really is done and not just some BS to excuse why we’re still there, and we all know the reason for that anyway.
Hijack over.
No even stopped to consider that I am about as German as they come.
Just so you know.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
ecke2 wrote:
Remember, you’re creating these sides. For me all western nations are on one side… But for you the germans left the “good side” because we had a different opinion on the attack on the Iraque, not to forget that we were right with our estimation of the nuclear capabilities of Saddam which was the main reason for the invasion of Iraque.
Hey - The Germans did what the Germans did. Don’t expect us to stand up and cheer for you when you break with the country that has defended your ass for the last 60 years. Come to find ut - we didn’t need you guys after all. [/quote]
Who has break with the U.S.A.? Germany and france goverment has after opinions as the U.S.A. Need all countries to have the same view as the U.S.? For sure the U.S., better say the NATO, has defend our country. Thanks for this but i think you forgot that our peoples live for more then 60 years in the first frontline of the cold war. The NATO defend the whole western world include the U.S.A.
Wrong, you think we forget this. No we did not forget it. As i say above, we had live 60 years in first frontline, so you could not forget this. I think you must see it from a different side. The cold war is over, with him the main reason why the NATO exist. It is normal that it give now different point of view what the NATO do in future. If you wants to be pissed, that it give other countries, there people had another point of view, you need to kick some U.S. states, too. Because some of them think the same.
[quote]Your “Reason for the invasion of Iraq” is wrong. It’s called the War on Terror. You’ll find many here that agree with you.
There are just as many that think you are full of shit. I tend to side on the latter. There is no freakin brotherhood. Your country is the last one on earth that should be talking about the West as one country, or what ever drivel you tried to pass off.[/quote]
When we are the last country that talk as the west as one country, then it is so. But then you must be pissed about you self, because we wants the brootherhood. If the prizes for the brootherhood, that we need to stop thinking. Then the prizes is to high and we stand alone. Look in your history, your country was born under nearly similar conditions.
Point for you, the side discussion was initiade by ecke. For me it give no sides, only other points of view.
[quote]I have no idea what kind of bug has gotten in your panties, but you make no point, other than to blame me for German women’s grooming habits, and to tell me that I am the only one that has divided Germany and the U.S.
Both points are wrong - and yet you keep plugging away. If you care to discuss the War - that is another matter, but rest assured - I did not have a hand in starting that either. Not that that fact will stop you from blaming me, but I thought I would try.[/quote]
I could stop blaming you dude, when we could discuss on the same level. You act in some of your post like the king of the world. Let us discuss on the same level, you do not need to change your thinking but you need to exept that it give peoples that had another point of view. Specially exept that this peoples are not bad guys.