Witches Burned Alive

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Gkhan wrote:

MATTHEW 25:31-46

this passage doesn’t say anything about a belief system…only doing good for your fellow man.

Oh?

But then what about Ephesians 2:8 and 9? Or Titus 3:5? Or Galatians 2:16?

Sounds like the epistle writers are of the opinion that doing good is not enough: the belief system (faith) is also required.

The counterpoint is, of course, that you can have the belief system and still be damned. The gospel of James says in verse 2:9, somewhat sarcastically, “so you believe in God. Good for you. So does the devil.”

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What scipture are you speaking of ?

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For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith?and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God? Ephesians 2:8

But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers James 2:9

I didn’t understand the one from James either.

Varq, care to explain?

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:
why is he a troll?

Maybe because he didn’t implicate America in his post?[/quote]

Because he compares someone being burned alive to a woman having an abortion, or assisted suicide/removing someone from life support who is clearly never going to recover.

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith?and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God? Ephesians 2:8

But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers James 2:9

I didn’t understand the one from James either.

Varq, care to explain?[/quote]

Oops. Looks like my fingers were moving faster than my brain. That should be James 2:19, not 9.

Here’s 18-20, which should make the meaning clear.

Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

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[quote]eigieinhamr wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
why is he a troll?

Maybe because he didn’t implicate America in his post?

Because he compares someone being burned alive to a woman having an abortion, or assisted suicide/removing someone from life support who is clearly never going to recover.[/quote]

Ok, I get it. He was responding to this:

“it’s easy to condem Africa when you see a video like this, and not to imply that Africa isn’t a hell hole, but there is enough atrocity in the Western world that we really don’t have any room to talk. Westerners just use more sophisticated methods to brutally murder people.”

So, he just hit a nerve by calling euthanasia and abortion it an atrocity?

I get it.

Yet if he brought up the Iraq war, for instance, he would not be a troll?

What atrocities are we talking about which happen in the West?

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http://www.biblebb.com/files/macqa/1301-E-10.htm

But doesn’t this explain it?

“Faith without works is dead”?

Enless I am mistaken, doesn’t that mean you can’t be saved without having both faith and works? That faith alone can not save you?

Or vice versa?

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:
http://www.biblebb.com/files/macqa/1301-E-10.htm

But doesn’t this explain it?

“Faith without works is dead”?

Enless I am mistaken, doesn’t that mean you can’t be saved without having both faith and works? That faith alone can not save you?

Or vice versa?

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That’s how I interpret it.

The first three epistles say that works without faith are worthless, and James says that the converse is also true.

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:

Yet if he brought up the Iraq war, for instance, he would not be a troll?
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You really want to compare abortion to the Iraq war?

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[quote]eigieinhamr wrote:
Gkhan wrote:

Yet if he brought up the Iraq war, for instance, he would not be a troll?

You really want to compare abortion to the Iraq war?[/quote]

No. The idea was Africa is a backward and barbaric place and in the West we have advanced ways to kill people.

Such as??

Gdol said euthanasia and abortion was called a troll.

Yet the person calling troll constantly brings the Iraq war into everything in an effort to ceaselessly bash the US.

Which is the point I was trying to make.

Now if Euthananasia and Abortion are off limits as far as atrocities go, what other Western atrocities would you like to discuss??

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:
eigieinhamr wrote:
Gkhan wrote:

Yet if he brought up the Iraq war, for instance, he would not be a troll?

You really want to compare abortion to the Iraq war?

No. The idea was Africa is a backward and barbaric place and in the West we have advanced ways to kill people.

Such as??

Gdol said euthanasia and abortion was called a troll.

Yet the person calling troll constantly brings the Iraq war into everything in an effort to ceaselessly bash the US.

Which is the point I was trying to make.

Now if Euthananasia and Abortion are off limits as far as atrocities go, what other Western atrocities would you like to discuss??
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If you’re talking to me, not Lixy, then I would say there were atrocities committed in the Iraq war, as there are in all wars, and the western forces probably did a better job of being civilised in war than most countries have ever done. Remember the military is always going to have bad seeds that will make the rest look bad.

But I don’t think there are major atrocities specific to the west (I think the drug war is an atrocity, but asian countries are much worse on this), while I do think there are some exclusive to non western countries. Bring up Hitler? The only thing that distinguished the nazis was the scale of their cruelty (compared to Cambodia, Japan).

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[quote]eigieinhamr wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
why is he a troll?

Maybe because he didn’t implicate America in his post?

Because he compares someone being burned alive to a woman having an abortion, or assisted suicide/removing someone from life support who is clearly never going to recover.[/quote]

The banality of evil.