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[quote]ZEB wrote:

What’s wrong with taking the middle ground? [/quote]

Nothing, and that is what I thought Christie should have done. That was my point #3 above - it appears that Christie tailored his appreciation to suit his own political ambitions, when what he should have done was simply express effectively non-partisan appreciation and put the politics aside.

Christie was right to praise Obama’s response, if it was praiseworthy, and as for political optics, the smart route was to look bi-partisna, or even better, non-partisan - but it appears that Christie had other motives in mind.

But I don’t think Christie’s actions moved the needle very much, if at all.

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Obama way off the pace in early voting in Virginia

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/11/01/obama-way-off-the-pace-in-early-voting-in-virginia/

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I saw the Ohio governor on the news last night, and he seemed pretty confident that his state would go Romney.

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Washington Post moving Ohio from ‘leans Obama’ to ‘tossup.’

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Is this the article you are referencing Sloth ?

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Is this the article you are referencing Sloth ?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/11/01/ohio-moves-back-into-the-toss-up-category-on-fix-electoral-map/[/quote]

Yep.

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The fiery wrath of proud Americans is back.

Love it.

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[quote]Sloth wrote:
Obama way off the pace in early voting in Virginia

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/11/01/obama-way-off-the-pace-in-early-voting-in-virginia/[/quote]

If Romney wins Virginia and I’ve had a good feeling about that state going our way for several weeks from the many polls that have him leading, we can add 13 electoral votes to the bottom line. Then if Romney wins Wisconsin (which is tied in the latest Rasmussen poll) that is another 10 electoral votes. If New Hampshire follows that is 4 more electoral votes and Romney wins without Ohio. Of course that is assuming his 3 point lead holds in Colorado and we win Iowa as well where I think we are ahead by a tiny bit. I think Obama has given up on Florida and as it stands we have a two point lead. I think the only way we lose in a state where we have a two point lead is voter fraud. AND…don’t put that past the Chicago sleaze machine. If there’s a way they think they can pull if off they’ll do it. I hope the Romney forces will be out in full force to monitor the polls. I will be doing my job I know that!

I have been consistent with the following. Where ever you see a tie, or Obama up by one, and in some places two, Romney can win those states for two reasons: High intensity voter turnout for the republicans and lack of voter turnout for the democrats. And the 2% that are still undecided the majority usually break toward the challenger, at least they have since 1976. And national polls show independents who went for Obama last time are fully in the Romney camp by 7%.

Of course anything can happen and as I’ve said I think Christie hurt us a bit. But I think by next Tuesday that might not mean as much. If Romney gets the focus back on our economic situation (as that is the number one issue in every survey that I’ve read). And others continue to talk up Benghazi which speaks directly to Obama’s poor leadership…we might just win this thing!

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The sex scandal is Bob Menendez.

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Goddamit, pay your hooker !

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[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

What’s wrong with taking the middle ground? [/quote]

Nothing, and that is what I thought Christie should have done. That was my point #3 above - it appears that Christie tailored his appreciation to suit his own political ambitions, when what he should have done was simply express effectively non-partisan appreciation and put the politics aside.

Christie was right to praise Obama’s response, if it was praiseworthy, and as for political optics, the smart route was to look bi-partisna, or even better, non-partisan - but it appears that Christie had other motives in mind.

But I don’t think Christie’s actions moved the needle very much, if at all.[/quote]

Christie should’ve done what Cuomo did: said to Obama, no thanks I’ve got more important things to be doing and you do too. That would’ve been the smart thing to do and the right thing to do. Instead, he had to get his face on television and brown nose Obama.

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Whittle, killing it

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

Christie should’ve done what Cuomo did: said to Obama, no thanks I’ve got more important things to be doing and you do too. That would’ve been the smart thing to do and the right thing to do. Instead, he had to get his face on television and brown nose Obama.[/quote]

I think you’re right, which is why some people are talking about Cuomo for higher office and one person is talking about Christie for higher office.

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[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

Christie should’ve done what Cuomo did: said to Obama, no thanks I’ve got more important things to be doing and you do too. That would’ve been the smart thing to do and the right thing to do. Instead, he had to get his face on television and brown nose Obama.[/quote]

I think you’re right, which is why some people are talking about Cuomo for higher office and one person is talking about Christie for higher office.[/quote]

In a way Cuomo did to Obama what Christie did to Romney, however not in such an overt way.

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Bart Starr endorces Romney in WI, reads from Lombardi’s book and brought to tears.

Does this swing the cheesehead vote and take the state for Romney?

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Bart Starr endorces Romney in WI, reads from Lombardi’s book and brought to tears.

Does this swing the cheesehead vote and take the state for Romney?[/quote]

I don’t think that winning Wisconsin is as out of reach as some of the pundits believe. One reason that he chose Paul Ryan was to assure a win in Wisconsin. Also, the organization which helped Governor Walker win the recall election is in place and working over time for Mitt Romney. Currently in most credible polls Romney is tied with Obama in that state. While I hate to depend on Wisconsin to deliver the White House to Mitt Romney I don’t think it’s at all out of the question. I would not be surprised seeing Wisconsin go to Romney by a solid 3 points or so.

But…the focus should still be on Ohio for Romney to win the Presidency.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Bart Starr endorces Romney in WI, reads from Lombardi’s book and brought to tears.

Does this swing the cheesehead vote and take the state for Romney?[/quote]

I don’t think that winning Wisconsin is as out of reach as some of the pundits believe. One reason that he chose Paul Ryan was to assure a win in Wisconsin. Also, the organization which helped Governor Walker win the recall election is in place and working over time for Mitt Romney. Currently in most credible polls Romney is tied with Obama in that state. While I hate to depend on Wisconsin to deliver the White House to Mitt Romney I don’t think it’s at all out of the question. I would not be surprised seeing Wisconsin go to Romney by a solid 3 points or so.

But…the focus should still be on Ohio for Romney to win the Presidency.[/quote]

Zeb:

Isn’t Romney tied (IMO “ahead”) in Ohio?

Mufasa

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Bart Starr endorces Romney in WI, reads from Lombardi’s book and brought to tears.

Does this swing the cheesehead vote and take the state for Romney?[/quote]

I don’t think that winning Wisconsin is as out of reach as some of the pundits believe. One reason that he chose Paul Ryan was to assure a win in Wisconsin. Also, the organization which helped Governor Walker win the recall election is in place and working over time for Mitt Romney. Currently in most credible polls Romney is tied with Obama in that state. While I hate to depend on Wisconsin to deliver the White House to Mitt Romney I don’t think it’s at all out of the question. I would not be surprised seeing Wisconsin go to Romney by a solid 3 points or so.

But…the focus should still be on Ohio for Romney to win the Presidency.[/quote]

I can’t find it now, but there was a great read about suburbs v city in WI and how the recall election worked out. It basically said, with a good ground game and entusiastic base, Romney walks in WI.

It was on Breitbart maybe, but I don’t remember. I sort of passed over it as I saw it as spin at the time.

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[quote]Mufasa wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Bart Starr endorces Romney in WI, reads from Lombardi’s book and brought to tears.

Does this swing the cheesehead vote and take the state for Romney?[/quote]

I don’t think that winning Wisconsin is as out of reach as some of the pundits believe. One reason that he chose Paul Ryan was to assure a win in Wisconsin. Also, the organization which helped Governor Walker win the recall election is in place and working over time for Mitt Romney. Currently in most credible polls Romney is tied with Obama in that state. While I hate to depend on Wisconsin to deliver the White House to Mitt Romney I don’t think it’s at all out of the question. I would not be surprised seeing Wisconsin go to Romney by a solid 3 points or so.

But…the focus should still be on Ohio for Romney to win the Presidency.[/quote]

Zeb:

Isn’t Romney tied (IMO “ahead”) in Ohio?

Mufasa[/quote]

He isn’t going to PA on Sunday because he is “close but behind” in Ohio…

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[quote]Mufasa wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Bart Starr endorces Romney in WI, reads from Lombardi’s book and brought to tears.

Does this swing the cheesehead vote and take the state for Romney?[/quote]

I don’t think that winning Wisconsin is as out of reach as some of the pundits believe. One reason that he chose Paul Ryan was to assure a win in Wisconsin. Also, the organization which helped Governor Walker win the recall election is in place and working over time for Mitt Romney. Currently in most credible polls Romney is tied with Obama in that state. While I hate to depend on Wisconsin to deliver the White House to Mitt Romney I don’t think it’s at all out of the question. I would not be surprised seeing Wisconsin go to Romney by a solid 3 points or so.

But…the focus should still be on Ohio for Romney to win the Presidency.[/quote]

Zeb:

Isn’t Romney tied (IMO “ahead”) in Ohio?

Mufasa[/quote]

The race nationally is a dead heat with 3 percent still undecided. My guess is that 1% of those folks will stay home. And Romney gets the majority of the remaining 2%. But who cares as the popular vote will not determine the winner.

As for Ohio it is tied but this is only Friday. Will there be movement to either side by Tuesday? Who knows?

I think that some toss up states have fallen one way or the other. For example, Romney will win North Carolina, I think Obama takes Nevada.

Out of the remaining states such as,

Florida, Ohio, Virginia, Wisconsin, Colorado, Iowa, and New Hampshire

Romney must win the majority and the right ones.

For example, Ohio, Iowa, Florida, Virginia, Colorado and New Hampshire and he wins.

Definitely an uphill fight for Romney to capture the electoral vote. This happens because the “great” state of California with its 55 electoral votes go to Obama. It takes an average of just over 6 states with electoral values of 9 each to make up for this left wing giant. Hey Max can’t you do something out there to help us out in the future? :slight_smile:

Certainly possible though. As I keep saying the undecideds swing to Romney and the republican turnout is greater than the democrats Romney will most likely win. But if the election were one week ago before the hurricane and the Christie Obama make out session Romney was a shoe in. Right now the momentum has turned only slightly to Obama.

Will it be enough?

Will the momentum swing back on new unemployment stats that show things are getting worse at 7.9%?

Will there be a November surprise from either candidate?

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