Will Roy Moore Be Taken Down?

And taken down he was.

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Thank god…

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Well, a lot of Alabama Republicans crossed party lines to vote for Jones. Thank goodness. Good for them.

It’s really too bad these accusations didn’t surface before the primaries so they could have run a better candidate. Both Romney and Trump got over 60% of the Alabama vote, so is should have easily been a GOP seat. Hopefully this helps put an end to Bannon’s influence.

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I don’t get it. Trump just wrote a twitter post that didn’t call the election results into question.

In any case, I hope this serves as a lesson for Mitch McConnell and his ilk.

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It was Trump’s most Presidential tweet ever, haha. Honestly makes me wonder if someone got to him ahead of time and said “Maybe don’t respond to this one with SAD TO SEE HATERS AND LOSERS VOTE OUT A GOOD MAN IN JUDGE ROY MOORE! WITCH HUNT! HUGE IF TRUE!”

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FiveThirtyEight has some cool breakdowns of “what happened” here as they try to take the temperature of AL and how it relates to the national scene. While, yes, some of Bama’s red areas were less red than usual, it seems that their take was Moore’s unique awfulness really galvanized the opposition (sound familiar? Lol) and - even for a special election - there was fairly low turnout in red areas while there was high turnout in the few areas of Alabama that typically go blue (so they went DEEP BLUE and had larger share of the total vote count than usual).

I’m not an expert, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, so the scorching hot take I’ll offer: it seems that this outcome was mostly driven by a terrible candidate that brought out lots of normally-unmotivated “opposition” voters while leaving the incumbent party’s voters sufficiently unenthused that their turnout was low.

Politics in 2016-2017.

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The state of US politics where a narrow win over a multiple-times-accused child molester is held up as a massive victory…

Agree.

Let me also add that it took almost a “perfect Storm” (that included the candidate Moore himself; the moment in the nation where we are more sensitive to sexual assault and harassment; a Black Electorate seeing, hearing and feeling echos of Alabama’s terrible past; etc.)…for this narrow win to happen.

This was in no way a “template” for DEMS to win in a Red State. Even a reasonably respectable Republican could have won this election.

It could be. Find accusers, make allegations, bring in Allred. Profit.

For those of you indignant about that cynical statement I have one question. Which unproven rape claim against Bill Clinton affected your vote?

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I’m not clear as to the point you are making in relation to this recent Alabama election.

Just that we’ve seen sexual misconduct allegations fail to take down 2 presidential candidates (Bill and Donald). It may not be a fool-proof strategy.

Both Bill Clinton and The Donald looked “cool” to parts of their respective bases, thus consciously or unconsciously dismissing allegations leveled against them.

Moore on the other hand looks, talks and behaves like a total creep.

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His views on 9/11 alone should have made him a pariah.

Exactly. And Moore didn’t really deny the allegations. I got the impression he was trying to justify his behaviors.

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It’s held up as a massive victory because a Dem just won a senate seat in Alabama. Alabama. I take it you’ve never been there.

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hah! I remember that episode, hilarious. Although to be fair, you could do that in any part of the country. Pro-trump stuff in California or New York right now might get you killed.

I mean I know Yanks love to vote loyally like they’re supporting a sports team rather than making political decisions (honestly, anyone who says “I always vote for X” shouldn’t be allowed to vote) but given that it was paedophile vs not-paedophile it really shouldn’t matter where the election was being held.

Anyway, my point remains: it’s a sad state of affairs where a child molester getting 49% of the vote is a good thing.

EDIT: I just realised that this is the country that elected a reality TV show host as President so I don’t really know why I’m surprised. As a Brit it was nice to not win the “Stupidest Political Decision of 2016” award :smiley:

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I avoid third world nations whenever I can.

I think that you’d find of the people who believe the accusations, the % was considerably lower.