Wife TRT - Panic Attack, Tense, Anxiety

Wife started TRT through Defy. She was prescribed 50mg/ml Cypionate and instructed to inject .1 ml twice per week for 10mg per week.

After her first injection she felt symptoms she was unsure of, she reached out to Defy and they told her to keep going she shouldn’t feel anything for 3-4 weeks although she told them she was experiencing these symptoms. She is now on injection 3, and has experienced unpleasant symptoms for just over one week.

Anxiety
Random Panic Attack
Racing Heart
Tense

We’ve been told to drop her weekly amount from 10 mg to 5 mg for a few weeks so her body could get used to it, and then raise it back to 10 mg.

Any ideas what may be causing this? What should be done to fix?

Thank you all,

Hormone therapy can be tricky for some, especially if nutrition is poor, vitamin or mineral deficiencies, excessive dosing, hypothyroidism and other untreated medical problems can make TRT a little more challenging .

Your wife could simply have a very high sensitivity to androgens.

Right now I feel like I’m throwing darts at a dart board in the dark.

I think it’s best to start from the beginning, what were your wife’s pre-TRT lab work up?

Please include normal ranges.

10mg is a high dose for women to start on, IMO. 5-8mg seems the normal range. Maybe she does need 10mg, but I still wouldn’t have starter her there. My wife is also prescribed Test C 50mg/ through Defy but we started her on 5mg/wk (.05ml 2x per week). It has been amazing for her energy, mental focus etc but she was very low T to begin with. We have not done follow up labs to see where her levels are but will in the next 30 days I believe.

Dose is too high

Lower the dose

I’m amazed how differently ppl respond to hormones. We’re all different, but sometimes it takes this reaction to know that she needs to start low and slowly work up. Good luck

Testosterone - 38ng/dl - 8-60ng/dl
Free Testosterone - 1.4pg/ml - 0.0-4.2pg/ml
Estradiol - 146.0pg/ml -

I am not sure which labs to post, are there any additional needed?

Regarding the dose being too high, we thought the same, lowered her dosage to 5mg per week, .05 per injection. She has only taken one injection at .05. Still too early to tell if it has helped. We were even thinking of dropping her to 3mg per week if needed.

It’s always best to post all labs, this way members can critic them and offer other possible causes for symptoms.

Ferritin (iron status) should be a lab you would want prior to and after starting hormone therapy.

I had low iron at the start of TRT and had all the symptoms your wife is experiencing. TRT absolutely wrecks me if I have low ferritin, low iron. It was so bad I had to stop TRT for 8 months to figure it all out.

According to the Boston University School of Medicine, anything under 25 ng/dL for a women under 50 is low.

Also, according to the Boston University, a Free T (direct radioimmunoassay), women under the age of 50, a level of <1.5 pg/mL is considered low.

If these were pre start labs I don’t see why she’s on T Cyp. Pretty average labs. Can’t comment on E2 without knowing cycle phase etc.

I am not sure how to post her labs on here, although I am happy to email them if that works?

I’m old fashion, I just type it out, that way no one can see the personal information.

The “normal” test range for free T for a woman is 0.0 on the low end? Huh? That’s absurd.

No wonder Joe Schmo doctors suck so bad at this hormone stuff. They look at a lab and see if the number is in the range and just move on.

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After reviewing the labs, I’m going to stick with the sensitivity to androgens comment.

The ALT seems mildly elevated, was your wife sick recently?

She has a history of Lymes Disease. She got lymes when she was 10 yrs old.
She also has MTHFR - A1298C 2 mutations

Again… why is she seeking T replacement?

Low energy, feeling down, almost all of the classic symptoms. I told her to get ahold of defy and get her labs checked, it may be a hormone issue. She did, assuming they would prescribe HRT if anything at all, and the clinic reached back out and prescribed TRT at 10mg per week.

I like Defy but don’t agree. My wife and I go there too. In your case the labs are pretty normal, yes a tad low but not much. iMO you would need several lab draws over a period of time to determine if TRT was needed as her posted labs are close to normal and these values vary depending on timing of cycle. Even if you went that route they have you on the wrong starting dose.

That explains a lot. Less commonly, TRT can exacerbate symptoms of Lymes Disease making dialing in difficult.

Do you think running the 3mg a week for a month or two and re-doing labs makes sense? Super low dose could possibly help.

Yes, it does. Reaching steady states on cypionate are achieved in 4-6 weeks.

Women are very sensitive to testosterone, more so than men.