Wife Threatened... Again

I prefer the strikers. But definitely with you on the combat females.

And that’s all I’m really getting at. I mean it can be taught and Lord knows the military and law enforcement do it.

I’m never opposed to anyone carrying a weapon (excluding the mentally infirm or ill), but I think this is a definite conversation that needs to be had. Even with myself. Someone attacks me alone, I don’t know that I draw a weapon. Someone attacks a loved one and I have a much cleaner conscience.

@twojarslave- I’ve had more than one firearms instructor tell me the same. Women are teachable. Men are born thinking they’re Rambo.

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Yes and it is a major impediment to learning. It happens on the mats too and even in the gym. Guys can’t make the movie that plays inside their heads happen in real life, so they make excuses and/or quit. They don’t get any better or they improve so much slower than they would if they just admitted that they sucked and got on with the improvement process.

Women don’t seem to have that problem, generally speaking.

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pookie and twojar nailed it: mindset has to be there or the weapon is useless. That was one of the first things I taught my wife when she got her first pistol: the weapon doesn’t come out because you want to scare them away, it comes out because you have made a conscious decision to use it. If they retreat in the time it takes you to clear leather, then they get to walk away (assuming they keep retreating). Otherwise, center mass and shoot to stop the threat.

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Thats the question I have been mulling in my brain. Knowing her the way I do if it meant protecting are two sons(even if they are older) or her elderly father, I honestly believe she would not hesitate and even do it execution style. If she would do it to protect her self? That I dont know… shes faced death before so I think she just might when it came down to it.

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In retrospect it probably the quickest solution at this point until we can reach the next step .
Which will be a weekend purchase matter of fact

Thanks for the sound advice!

Well here in Indiana stun guns are not a issue but a Tasser or anything that can be considered a projectile requires a type of permit.

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I think its even worse now…

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Get the pepper spray designed for bears not the wimpy shit. If all else fails Raid wasp and hornet spray will reach up to 25 ft! It would beat nothing at all!

well got to make sure its portable

Ugh, I got the MK-9S OC to the face before having to run an obstacle course. It was horrible. Even after the initial pain, where you forget to breathe and lose vision, you spent another 1-2 hours in intense pain as the OC reactivates again and again in the Virginia summer sun, and gallons of snot you didn’t know you had spill from your face to your feet. God forbid, at the end of the day, you shower without putting a bag over your genitals, because the runoff will get you there too. Only caveat about using pepper spray - 1., if you have children with you or near you, you should know that spraying an aerosol means you’ll likely get some in your own face and a child’s face, and that’s assuming the wind is in your favor. It only takes a single one of those crystals getting in your eyes to make you hate life., and 2 - pepper spray can anger people instead of disarming them. It really depends on who you’re dealing with. If you use it, best to unload on the face, sidestep out of their line of sight, and run.

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yeah thats my concern

Just buy her a bigger purse!

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Don’t forget windy days on the flat lands of Indiana. That’ll have a much smaller impact on the trajectory of a bullet vs a stream of pepper spray.

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A knife is edit better than nothing.

Concealed carry is best, but only if, as others have said, she’s willing to actually use it, and also if she’s competent with it. Shooting at a range, no matter how often you do it, has little effect on what you’re going to do and how you’re going to aim when a combat situation comes your way, adrenaline is flowing, tunnel vision sets in, fine motor function goes out the window. That’s why I got my wife a .22 pistol. Virtually no recoil, and shot placement is far more important than caliber.

The most important thing is that she scream, fight, and do everything she can to make life difficult for the attacker.

Despite this all being hypothetical, my heart goes out to you, man. I would never want to be thinking the thoughts you’re thinking now. I’m sure your wife will be fine, and the coward will leave her be.

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A two handed sword… even better! Scared the hell out of a date one time with a Klingon Batliff :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Thanks… what sucks is this wasnt the first time and my gut is telling me this wont be the last. Outside of prepping her for these situation there not a damn thing I can do until after the fact.

I have to disagree with you on this.

Both knives and guns are considered lethal force in the eyes of the law, and the same conditions must be met for someone to employ any sort of lethal force in defense of self or those under the mantle of their protection (children, spouses, etc).

In other words, if you can stab someone in defense of your self, you can also shoot them. Both are considered lethal force.

Furthermore knife fighting is probably even more grizzly and unsettling than shooting someone. You still have to stab them until they stop trying to hurt you, just like you need to shoot them until they stop trying to hurt you.

Which do you think your average person will be more able to do effectively?

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I worded that very poorly. I made it sound as if a knife was better than concealed carry. It is DEFINITELY not. I was just saying in an offhand way that a knife can give you some security, and it’s better than nothing.

Appreciate you pointing that out, since this is a fairly serious situation. I’m all for bulldog’s wife learning to carry, I just know a lot more about firearms than I do knife fighting. The two comments were not meant to be comparative in nature.

Legally-speaking, it’s not really a matter of one being better than the other. Obviously a gun is better than a knife. It’s a matter of both being lethal force.

This is the part I disagreed with. Nothing personal meant by it at all, btw. It is a common misconception that knives are somehow on a different force spectrum than guns. They aren’t. If you’re in a situation where you’re justified stabbing someone you are also justified in shooting them.

In other words, if you’re prepared to carry a knife and use it to defend yourself, you’re just as ready to use a gun. Both need training to be effective, and it seems to me that knife fighting has a much higher skill threshold.

That said, I don’t know much at all about knife fighting, either. I carry a blade as a backup to my gun and a general purpose tool. It would be a bad day if I ever have to deploy it in anger.

Bottom-line, there’s no self-defense scenario where I would draw my knife but not my gun. Both are lethal force. I just want to make sure that is clear to everyone reading.

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Understood. Important to know what is and isn’t lethal force as well.

I got about a week of training in knife fighting from Filipino Marines, who were abysmal shots, but skilled in hand-to-hand combat and knife fighting (Kali). We obviously did most of our training with rubber and wooden knives, but the takeaway was obvious - whether you, your opponent, or both of you have knives, if you’re in a knife fight, expect to be cut. Besides that, a week of training is nothing, and we spent too much time drinking brandy and having sex with Filipino hookers, who refer to sex as “boom-boom”, so I don’t think that made me a good knife fighter.